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;) ahhh you so sweet you can be my brother anyday!!!
seriously i feel what you are saying. i didnt even know about the sis/bro till i went to regionals. The Kappas showed us so much love than when i came back to school it was weird because when i got back to school it was a totally different story. |
Personally I have no problem showing that Indiana love. Its only right.
If ever I go to a party or something I will 1).... holla at the bruhs if they didnt come with me and 2)......go up to the sgrho's and show some kind of love then 3).....start strollin my ass off of course, you know how it be.(especially when you cant dance) It is good to establish that relationship everywhere, but this world is not perfect so every chapter is different and will do as they see fit The SGRhos at Savannah State are not really that established, but we still show them that love. This past Spr. semester right when I crossed, I was chillin by the Alpha plot and someone's little boy ran onto the sgrho plot. Everybody looked at me and asked if I could go get him. It is good that people imply that bond between two of the greatest greek organizations established. |
First of all lets not be fake about this situation. Kappa's don't claim the SGRho's because they don't want to. I was told that it was brought up that we be bonded to them but they never got back with us. Personally at the university that I'm at they don't get any respect for the simple fact that they are paper. The only Kappas that do speak are the ones that I knew before they crossed.
I don't break my neck to speak to any of them because they don't bother to speak to us. I don't mind that we don't get shown any love from them because they don't show each other love. How can you be my brother when you ain't even a brother to your own frat. So I don't want anybody saying that Kappas show us Indiana love because they don't. Depending on what campus you go to the Kappas may suport the Delta's or even the AKA's for whatever reason. My only question is why aren't we shown love everywhere? Is it because we don't were stelletos everyday and walk around actin very sadity? Please make me understand cause personally it makes no sense. |
is it really that important for you to come onto the K A Psi board and be disrespectful?
our pages have been flooded by some person that needs to tell the world that SGRhos don't need NUPEs. great! The fact is that Zetas and sigmas are the only official sisters/brothers of the BGLOs. so we are not your brothers. i love the SGRhos at my school, but i never acknowledge them as "soror". Not out of disrespect but b/c they are not. these are human founded orgs. founded by humans and for humans. meaning there will be mistakes and conflicts b/c guess what... humans aren't perfect. It reflects pourly on your org for you to come on the NUPE board and speak of us not liking other NUPEs and how much we are not needed. wake up. all nine BGLOs are founded from a political, racial and economical struggle that needed to be addressed then and still today. do not let what some NUPEs did to you cloud your judgement against a whole BGLO when there is still work to do that is deeper than some Indiana Love. |
I know a few Kappas that acknowledge SGRhos but when you don't even have the respect to speak and then you get on a message board and refer to us as mess then I have a problem with that. I don't sugar coat nothing and I am not going to hold my tounge for nobody either. If we have enough respect for yall to speak just out of indiana love then why cant your org do it either.
And I don't feel as though we need you, for what. we have been doing fine this long so why even say that we need you doesnt make sense. I have nothing against Kappas personally because I show love whenever whereever. I have a problem with some of your frat posting stuff like what is indiana love and why are we in the same sentence as yall, that is what I have a problem with. Maybe if they were made into Nupes then they would know why huh. Nupe |
where does this "need " thing keep coming from? i am not telling you to hold your tongue or anything like that. what i am saying is i disapprove of your insulting NUPEs on their board and that since our relationship is not official many of us dont feel obligated to speak. it is like an AKA or DST getting mad at us for not speaking, its more upto the individual and not the org.
are you a neo? i only ask b/c you seem more passionate about this subject than any other SGRho i've ever met. |
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Hello Soror! Slow your road newbie. You have only been here since yesterday and all over the Kappa board already.
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Man man man, what is there left to say? I love anybody that loves me! My chapter gets along with Nupes, Iota, or any other organization that decides to show love. It's supposed to be about Greek UNITY anyway. I know we all diss each other for fun, but we are not supposed to tear other down and ridicule each other.
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The Final Thought of the Day:
Not to overkill a zombie like topic already, but I must throw in my two cents on the situation. Like many have said, everywhere you go, the levels of love is different. But, IN MY OPINION, that does not make it right. From what I've seen, it seems as if alot of people don't know just how deep Kappa and SGRHO go. I think that this lack of knowledge can be the reason that some places don't show love like they should. You can not fault someone for not knowing information, but you have not because you ask not. Recognizing that both Kappa Alpha Psi and Sigma Gamma Rho are very capable seperate groups does not mean that we can't respect one another. True, we don't "need" each other, but it is always good to know your history, and pay proper respect to that history. If you are wondering, or need information, get with me so we can talk about this Indie Luv thing. Until then, take care of yourself and each other:D YO YO! |
"SHOWING "INDIANA LOVE " TO THE SGRHOES!!
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I know this thread is old, but it's one of my favorite subjects. On my yard the Nupes and the SGRhos are tight as fake leather. It's not uncommon to hear Eee-Yo! or Yo-Pooodle! from across the yard. They step and stroll with us and we even have similar chants. As neos we were taught to address a Sigma Lady every time we saw one and they do the same for us. The SGRho's on our yard respect and cater to us in every way they can and we cherish and serve them to our fullest. Even though other sororities persue us and even try to claim us as frat, we are loyal to SGRho, because they are loyal to us. I say this because that's how it is on my campus. This is not the way that it should be everywhere. It just works for us. When Nupes and SGRho's get together it is a beautiful thing.
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Oh gosh!!! This thread is too funny. Talking about being upset about a bond that isn't even constitutionalized. I can understand the fact that you should respect one another first and foremost as human beings. Secondly, as being part of a BGLO, hence the Divine Nine being a part of the NPHC. The only people I feel should really have a hot fit about something of this nature is a Zeta and a Sigma. Just my opinion. After all, they do have that legal bond.
Every sorority/fraternity bond varies from campus to campus and region to region. Some AKAs and Kappas hang together due to the pretty image and also another historical bond. Some Kappas cling more to Deltas due to their colors. Some Kappas cling to SGRhos due to the IU bond. Alphas and AKAs due to first BGLO for black college students plus another historical bond. Deltas and Ques for too many reasons to name. I'd have to write a book for that one, lol. The list goes on. SGRhos have not been too popular in southern schools that I've visited such as AAMU, Tuskegee, Alabama State, and AU and AUM. I now reside in Atlanta and I've seen one SGRho tag since I've been here. I hear they are quite popular up north. I also have a friend whose cousin pledged SGRho and will not put her plate on her car since she moved from Memphis. I guess she saw the light and was highly disappointed in what it gleamed. There was one hot moment in history at Tuskegee University for Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc. A transfer SGRho from New York came to Tuskegee with a dream. She would revive the chapter at TU and keep her sorority alive. During the week for informationals, she came out with a hot top, a mini-skirt, some stilletos, and was walking a french poodle. Tell me that's not hot. |
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What I meant by being popular sort of deals with quantity then again it doesn't. What I mean by that is you must have members to make up your chapter to have quantity. Half the time, I don't even see any Sigma Gamma Rhos out. I'm not sure if they are suspended on those campuses, not on that campus at all, or no one wants to pledge. I can go to a homecoming game at Alabama State, Tuskegee, and Alabama A&M and see all greeks in there designated areas on the yard, yet there are never any sigma gamma rhos(or iotas for that matter). Due to my previous post, I know they are on TU's campus.
As far as if they are doing what they are supposed to for their sorority, there is no way I would know that. Don't see them out doing community service or flyers up for community service acts like other orgs cuz they seem rare. Are poodles becoming extinct?(j/k) My point with the girl and the poodle was that SGRhos are rare on that campus. She recruited to the best of her ability, and I truly thought it was cute. She really got my attention. She felt the need to represent her sorority to the fullest which would allow people to approach her that had interest. In turn, this would help bring SGRho back to life on TU's campus. Day to be remembered. |
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^^^^ her point is that for some reason she disses DST and now SGRho . Don't let s/he get to you. S/he is nothing. :D
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I Just love me some Sororities.
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Are you greek? You seem to know (or think you know) so much about bonds and where SGRhos are. We exist in the Southeast Region in great quantity as well as quality. Some Southeast Region Sorors are even represented here on GC. Maybe they should respond to you. :rolleyes: Usually I am pretty nice to people on here but in reality I am not nice when people say things that they don't really have a clue about. I know and attend functions on an annual basis that are sponsored by members of Kappa Alpha Psi (including regional and national officers of Kappa) and they alwys address me as Soror. Even if they didn't I still wouldn't give a dam either way because I am what I am and Sigma is what she is and has been since 1922 - regardless of the Indiana bond, Golden Luv bond, canine connection or whatever :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad: What I can't understand is why it matters so much to someone like you. You are all over the AKA board giving shout-outs to chapters and happy incorporaters day and have not even introduced yourself properly as an AKA Soror or Sisterfriend. :confused: |
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Nonchalant is not a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha. The only introductions we need are those of "members" of AKA. :D C'mon Blue Reign, you know SFs (and our respective sorors) are all over GC. <---Today, Not defending nor justifying the words of ANYONE. :p |
I'm sorry. I...just...get...so worked up (panting and out of breath) when someone makes a comment about Kappas and SGRhos having love for each other.
OK, I'm breathing easier now. Time to go to lunch and maybe stop by my Principal's office. He's a good lookin Kappa. Maybe I'll go bat my eyes and smile at him. :p ;) |
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As my signature states, it is what it is. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. To each his own. Anywho, with that being said, kiss @$$ is something that I simply do not do. You really have me messed up in that dept. Was raised better than that. Not in my character.
Dissing Delta. Hmmm.....interesting.I don't feel that I dissed them. I feel a diss involves downing someone in a negative manner for personal reasons. Seeing as I didn't lie about anything, I don't feel I dissed anyone. Again, to each his own. Dissing Sigma Gamma Rho, not even. Once again, stating my view. You could be right that I just overlook SGRho. That's really not hard to do(now that's a diss). As one of your sorors stated, some kappas don't even recognize your bond(another example of diss). Was I impressed by your soror and her recruiting act? Yes I was. Am I impressed/interested in your sorority on a personal level? That's an absolutely, positively no, no, no!!!! I love all the Greek orgs and what they do for the community, but that statement about me liking SGRho on that level is too much to handle. The group of people that I hang with are composed of every BGLO with the exception of SGRho. That's not done purposely. That's just how it is. Now ya know my social circle. Hope I touched on everything. If not, it really aint that serious. Be easy! |
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OK, I'm back from lunch now.
"He likes me. He really likes me!!" It's so important to me these days that I gotta have that Indy-Luv Connection. And Marquise1911, I co-sign with you too babe! :) |
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I can see the commerical now: (ahem, let me clear my throat for my announcer voice) - 'Coming up on Dr. Phil!!!!!! Nonchalant talks about her burden of having to endure life without meeting many SGRhos!!! She'll talk about her painful struggle when she goes to many campuses and does not meet any chapter members. She'll also talk about how she copes with not being impressd with SGRho. Tune in to find out how she resolves all of her issues with SGRho. You will not want to miss this episode. Also, tune in to see if she spontaneously combusts when in the presence of members of SGRho. Get your VCR ready. Everyone will be talking about this around the water cooler the next morning.' See how easy it can be!!! You won't have to live with your SGRho troubles any more!!!:D |
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Lmao, too funny once again. Reading is fundamental. Comprehending is understanding what was read. Therefore, either you can't read or can't comprehend. Which is it? Hmmm.... Never said I had problem with SGRho. If that's what you gathered then that's a personal issue that you need to resolve with the school system you were in attendance with. Poor baby. |
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In my opinion, although the other organizations don't have a constitutional bond, the bonds go deeper than just stereotypes or mere founding.
For example, I think Alpha & AKA, Que & Delta bonds are uniquely woven into Howard Universitys history. I think their historical relationships made the bonds strong between these four organizations, and thus inspired other groups to follow suit and form implicit bonds. What happened at Howard in the early 1900s, and the way these four organizations interacted at Howard in the 1900's has kinda shaped their bonds throughout the history of the organizations. The fact that founders of the organizations were affiliating dating/married members of the other organization. The influences each had on the other, etc. Then the rivalries that began to form that further pushed the affiliations and bonds that we talk about today. On my campus we always considered ourselves to be brothers to the AKA's. It wasn't just b/c the two organizations were founded first, but b/c of the familial relationships, ties, and historical bonds. Most important were the historical bonds. As a matter of fact, I believe that it is the Alpha & AKA, Que & Delta bonds that inspired the Sigmas and Zetas to write into their constitutions their bonds for eachother. Especially since, back in the day, the bonds were even stronger, and inevitably implied. |
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Alpha & AKA, Delta & Omega bond, about more than just stereotypes and colors:
What is the true relationship between Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity and Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority other than the fact that they were the first? Is it mere coincidence or divine intervention. Journey back to the campus of Howard University in the fall of 1907, when Cornell University student and Alpha initiate Eugene Kinckle Jones arrived on the campus of Howard University to establish the second chapter of the very young fraternity known as Alpha Phi Alpha at the request of the mother chapter Alpha. Contacts had been made and preliminary work had already been done through the assistance of the school's dean, Kelly Miller, who assisted Jones in selecting the nineteen young men who subsequently became charter members of the chapter known as Beta. Included in that sixteen was George A. Lyle, a native of St. Louis, Missouri and a junior. Lyle's girlfriend Ethel Hedgeman was also a native of St. Louis. They both had graduated from Sumner High School in 1904, where they were sweethearts even then. Upon arrival at Howard in the fall of 1905, both Lyle and Hedgeman were very active on the campus and was one of the more popular couples. George and these eighteen other men were initiated into the fraternity in Dec. 20 1907 certainly much to the delight of Ethel. This solidified her move to forge ahead with the sorority idea. The obvious fact is that Hedgeman was keenly aware of George's participation in the new fraternity. AKA Founder Margaret Flagg said" Because of Lyle and his connection with Alpha Phi Alpha, Ethel conceived the idea of the sorority." Not only was she aware of this new movement in brotherhood and sisterhood, she was inspired. According to the Marjorie Parker in the book "In the Eye of the Beholder," Hedgeman had returned to Howard inspired to organize a sorority. With her insight and vision Hedgeman approached her friend Lucy Slowe with the idea of establishing a similar group for women. Hedgeman and her nine friends engaged in research of the sorority idea, ascertained interest from other female students in the Liberal Arts College and submitted a proposal and constitution the Howard University Board of Trustees for the privilege to establish a sorority, the first in the school's history. They met on January 15, 1908, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority was born. The establishment had also come with tremendous support from two teachers at Howard, namely Ethel Robinson and Elizabeth Cook. In the meantime, George and his new brothers experienced the growing pains of laying the foundation for the chapter and fostering the fraternity's idea. Ironically, the fall of the 1908 found both Ethel and George as presidents of the chapters during their Senior year. George hosted Alpha's first convention on the campus of Howard in December of 1908 and a social was held with the ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority. More History: The founding of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated begins, curiously, through another sorority, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority. In 1912, societal changes were beginning to make their way to the Howard University campus, and 22 undergraduate members of Alpha Kappa Alpha were not immune. African Americans were demanding laws that protected their civil rights, while women were demanding the vote. Great thinkers like Alan Locke, W.E.B Du Bois and others, were bringing a new focus to African America, and the 22 undergraduate members of Alpha Kappa Alpha wanted to become a part of it. The seriousness and excitement of the period made the Howard AKA undergraduates reflect on their organization. They desired to make AKA into an organization which had a national perspective and which focused on the issues of the day. Furthermore, the AKA undergraduates felt that Alpha Kappa Alpha had not done everything necessary to officially become a sorority rather than to remain just a club. Alpha Kappa Alpha was not incorporated, was not a legal entity, and had not been granted the right to establish chapters at any other campus other than Howard University. Last, some of the undergrads felt that Alpha Kappa Alpha was too closely linked and identified with Alpha Phi Alpha, and that a new name and symbols would reflect a new identity. Of the twenty-two women who organized the sorority (Delta Sigma Theta), two dated two of the founders of the newly formed Omega Psi Phi. Delta Founder Edith Young dated Edgar Love and Frank Coleman dated and ultimately married Edna Brown. Programs and events were held together by these two organizations, and affiliation between these two orginizations was visible and inevitable on Howard's campus. In addition, Grace Coleman, sister of Omega founder Frank Coleman, was elected Delta's first president in 1914 at Howard University. Grace also was one of the first initiates of the sorority |
I thought this was an interesting piece I ran across on a Sigma Website: LOL at this b/c we all know it didn't exactly happen this way, but it was pretty creative.
Divine Nine: The Creation of The Divine 9 (Through the eyes of the gods) One day, the Greek gods Brotherhood and Sisterhood realized that they were lonely in the world. They had given birth to various children, but all seemed to forsake their parents. So they decided to join together and create a new breed to fraternal children. Brotherhood was given the opportunity to create the first child. He decided to take something from the two hemispheres of the world. So he gathered some "old gold" from the sun and black from the night in Egypt. There he created his first born, Alpha Phi Alpha. He granted his son wisdom as a gift of love. Seeing the child that Brotherhood had created, Sisterhood realized that APHIA should not be alone in the world. Sisterhood roamed the world, looking for entities that she could create her first daughter from. On her journey, she came upon a field of pink flowers surrounded by a fence of green ivy. She knew that these were what she wanted to create her daughter from. Taking the beauty from the flowers and the ivy, Sisterhood created her first daughter, Alpha Kappa Alpha. As a gift for her daughter, Sisterhood created a mirror for AKA not only to view her outward beauty but her inner beauty as well. Seeing the greatness they had created separately, Brotherhood and Sisterhood decided that they would join together and give birth to the rest of their children. Their first union brought about the birth of their twin sons Kappa Alpha Psi and Omega Psi Phi. These twins from birth were opposites. For one, they were born in two different locations. Kappa had obtained the beauty of his parents while Omega received the strength attributed to the parents. Though there was much conflict between the two personalities, Kappa and Omega expressed much love for each other. Brotherhood and Sisterhood decided to give their twin sons gifts as signs of their personalities. Kappa was given a cane created out of red and white revealing that his beauty only came through blood and sweat. They gave Omega a pair of boots of gold that shined with lightening where ever he stepped and a vest of purple as a sign of his royalty. To Sisterhood’s delight, their next child was a girl who they called Delta Sigma Theta. Delta, like her older bother Omega, gained more of the strength attribute of her parents. Because of this, her parents gave Delta a red elephant with bright ivory tusks as a sign of her strength. Shortly after the birth of their daughter Delta, Phi Beta Sigma was brought into this world. His birth occurred as the moon was in its crescent phase. So his parents gave Sigma the sign of the crescent moon. His peaceful nature was ascribed by the parents to the dove that sang the coming of his birth and would sing to him throughout the day. Sigma`s greatest pride would come in the form of another sister, Zeta Phi Beta. Sigma and Zeta developed a bound that was greater than any of the other siblings. Because of their close relationship, Brotherhood and Sisterhood decided to give their daughter a gift of a white cat as an expression of her peaceful nature. These proud parents would soon welcome their next and last daughter into their family. She was given the name Sigma Gamma Rho. She would have an association with her brother Kappa because of the sharing of their birth places. Due to a certain degree of elegance that Gamma Rho exuded, her parents gave her the gift of a well groomed poodle to express this elegance. The elite eight would come together to establish their own nation called the National Pan-HellenicCouncil. The children of eight would become siblings of nine after a long period of time. The last child that Brotherhood and Sisterhood brought into the world would be their baby boy, Iota Phi Theta. To celebrate this addition, they created a centaur as a gift for their son. The other siblings were somewhat cautious of granting their brother citizenship, but finally did. Thus becoming known as the "Divine Nine." The Greek gods looked down on all their children and say "Well done my children may your light sign in the East forever and may your glory never fade in the West. Never forget that you are all one and from one." |
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You can laugh out loud at it... but it is rude for me to call it what I think it is.... silly...? You have some nerve! And you don't know what I write... I am entitled to my own opinion and furthermore I don't think the piece was very creative. I have heard similar pieces that compare BGLO founding to the creation story. I think that comparison at its base level is silly... If you think it is a masterpiece....fine...But that says more about you than the author... And my question was rhetorical.... Please look that up...and become one with it...:D |
Oh and Conqueror... If you mean Sigma as in Phi Beta Sigma, kindly tell me the site address so I can discuss the "creativity" with my fraters....
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