UNC Charlotte Chapter Status?
 

In Charlotte on vacation.

One of my vacation rituals is to try to find LXA chapters in whatever town I end up in.

Found the UNCC Chapter house. Empty keg in front yard, dozens (upon dozens) of beer bottles visible inside the house - but no one home.

UNCC's website stated that the chapter was declared inactive by the GHZ in 5/04. Does anyone have more information on what happened? Letters are still on the house, etc.

From what I can see, of the other "greek" houses I saw (Chi Phi, and Pi Kappa Phi) - LXA looked like the only habitable house I could find...the other were unbelievable DUMPS, even by Animal House standards.

Just curious...will check in later when I get home.

ZAX

At a time when fraternities need to promote themselves and put forth a good image, it doesn't seem that they are doing anything like that.

On the other hand, it IS summer. Maybe these houses were not left in the best of hands?

In ZAX,
Jono

The house at UNCC was kicked off campus. There was a memo sent out by IHQ in April about their closing. I don't remember many of the details, but there was a party, guys got wasted, and they decided to go fight another fraternity. Well, they went to the fight with shovels and other weapons.

I don't know how it got started, and even as I understand it, the other fraternity didn't get punished, but we got kicked off campus. One university official said "I don't want to see Lambda Chi Alpha on this campus as long as I'm here"

So thats what I know, if you contact IHQ, I'm sure they'd be happy to tell the whole story.

Surprising
 

Wow, that is a shocker. I met some brothers from there last summer in Chapel Hill they were really nice guys and knew a lot about the fraternity. This demonstrates three brothers do not make up the whole fraternity. I have heard from various people they were a good chapter one of the strongest in North Carolina, obviously some things have changed and they deserved the punishment that was given to them.
With no chapter at Duke, NC State and for the meantime Charlotte University {just changed their name} we do not have a presence at three big schools in North Carolina, all three of those schools had strong chapters in the past.
As to the greek scene at Charlotte it is bad, not many people go greek and the university doesn't really care about greeks, a lot like UNC-Wilmington. When the all greek average is a 2.5 something is obviously wrong with the individuals that make up the fraternities there and when the greek officials give awards to fraternities like Lambda Chi for academic excellence with a 2.4-2.5 average that is absurd. There are only four sororites there and they do not have more than 80 people, there are more fraternities than sororites which I also find odd for a school over 15,000 people. Lambda Chi Alpha was the second biggest fraternity there but like I said winning awards like "best social life" and "academic acheivement" with an average of 2.5 in the fall are not great things, so it could say something about what happened to this chapter and shows what their priorities were. I hate losing chapters and it sucks they got busted, hopefully they can work things out and come back and have a better presence in the future.

Being a former UNCC student, LXA was removed this year by HQ. Yes, all the info posted about the fight is true. Infact, the LXA fought the Chi Phi's. I believe the Chi Phis were put on social probabtion as a result of this. Apparently, Lambda Chi Alpha was hosting its annual Mardi Gras party(or maybe another party), people started leaving due to boredom or other reasons and headed across the street to Chi Phi. Hence, Lambda Chi Alpha came with shovels and other tools and a fight broke out. That is what I heard from many of my male friends who are in fraternities. I did not know any Lambda Chi's personally so I cannot verify it. As for the state of the Chi Phi and Pi Kappa Phi Houses, they usually look better during the school year...I know members from both houses and basically in the summertime things are a bit laxed.

What happened to the NC-State chapter? i thought they were still there.

Its ashame that the brothers at UNCC were shut down, hopefully in a couple of years we will return start anew and return to the great chapter we have all heard it was.

NC State lost their chapter around 10 years ago due to lack of membership and so forth. This chapter has been brought up a lot with expansion talks. This would be a waste because this schools greek life is horrible for 25,000 students, the houses are crap and the fraternities are really small, only like 13% of the students go greek. I can verify this because my brother is a Kappa Sig there and my cousin is an SAE and i've learned a lot about the greek scene and the state of fraternities there. Interesting fact John Tesh was a brother of the Lambda Chi chapter at NCSU.
One school I would really like to see a chapter at is Duke, even though Greek life isn't huge at Duke because it is such a small school, a lot of the students go greek and Lambda Chi used to be very good there leaving the school because of changes in the membership requirements thirty-forty years ago.
Even though we lack chapters at Duke, NC State and Charlotte we do have a lot of good chapters in North Carolina. I have gone to four of them and have friends from high school in a few of them. East Carolina, App. St, Elon, North Carolina are very good chapters and have really cool brothers, if you are ever in the state of NC you should stop by because all those campuses are in cool places like Boone in the mtns. Chapel Hill which is beautiful and Greenville which is a HUGE party school, some of you old timers might not be able to hang there.

What a damn shame.

Just checked UNC web site and the zeta web site is still up running.

Frm the looks of it, they had nice house building!

It also showed dates of 4-04 for functions. When were they dechartered?

East Carolina
 

ECU is doing great. The house is looking better than ever with a new year of actives working extensivly to make it a better place. We are increasing our numbers each semester and we are planning to have an incredible rush in the fall. By our standards, incredible is around 12 or more guys. We are hoping to get that. We have been pulling in about 7 members on average each year.

In ZAX,
Charlie

I want to say they lost their charter around the 14th or something. Maybe not the exact date, but its close

It was only two brothers that got in the fight and messed up everything for the whole chapter. Everything is still in the works on the punishment from HQ.

Roshomon
 

In the classic Kurosawa Movie Roshomon their is a crime that takes place that has many different interpretations from different witnesses. I can only wonder If this incident has many different "takes" on it as well.

Lenoxxx

HM, never heard anything at G A about this Chapter!!

Hampton-Sydney was voted on to be de-chartered! Haated to see this, but became evident very quick, it was the best thing!:(

I was at that house in 1996 I think. It was really an incredible place, brnad new and as I recall, very large. I also remember it being almost too nice to be a fraternity house, until I realized that the parties went on outside since it was warm all year long there, so you could have a nice inside of the house, yada yada yada.

The only advice that I can give you for rush is to just work hard at it every day, keep good records of who is hanging around the house and coming to parties, get more than just the delta to be active in doing it, and keep following up with all of the people that are coming out (rushees). This may seem overly simple, but it will do the trick.

Also if rush doesnt go as well as you want it too, I suggest the following: gather around the AM's that you get and challenge them to each bring out a friend they know during the first week of association and work with them to organize three rushes during the first week of association with another quick bid session at the end. What I have found is that the brothers may have exhaused what they may know in terms of rush prospects, and the newest members may have untapped insights. Also getting new people involved with recruitment right off the bat is a good future lesson.

Tell them that it is important to help the chapter by doing this, and you may find a super enthusiastic group of ambassadors for your fraternity who will want to help out, and present it as a "challenge for the newest members of the fraternity" 18 year olds seem to really respond to this kind of in your face stuff.

Or, even if you have a good rush, do this anyway, maybe you need the help. I remember BY had like 110 actives back in 1996 too.

Hope this helps, simple advice= good advice!

in Zax
Jason Lenox
Phi Tau #274

Josh good to hear things got straightened out and the zeta is alive. Just because you can't through a party in the house doesn't mean you dont have any options. Remember i think a 1/3 of our chapters dont have houses. You just need to think of rush as a 24x7 job. ANYTHING can be a rush event.....let me repeat that....ANYTHING can be a rush event. start eating in the dinning hall once or twice a week and call up some rushees to join you. my chapter has started to play dodgeball evey wednesday night oncampus in one of the tennis courts. also they have brotherhood dinner once a week, we dont have a house so everyone comes to one the oncampus apartments chips in $3-$5 for all you can eat pusta. just call guys up to come out and hang out to get to know you. hey three or four brothers are going to a movie want to come? you can reserve a lecture hall one night and have a greek movie marathon(animal house,revenge of the nerds, etc) and have a rush table for information.
I remember talking to a guy from UCLA one summer at conclave and they had a great rush gymmic. they would sell raffle tickets at the rush table all week and then that friday they would draw the winner. the catch was you had to come back to the house for the drawing. they gave away a surf board but i always wanted to get the ravens to sign a football and raffle that off and have the money go to charity(two birds with one stone on that one.) anyway before the drawing they would play pool have stuff to eat maybe some card games going, basically mini events within the main event designed to get to know guys and get them interested incoming out more.
also since you can't through parties in the house just invite guys to go club hopping with you. or go on a road trip and bring some along. remember the dumbest reason to join a fraternity is to party, this is college there are parties everywhere, you dont need to be greek to find some beer. you need to show guys the million other things about being in a fraternity they have no idea about.

if your having trouble with making the house payment why dont you just rent rooms to boarders, i know when i was in college, i would go down to the chpater at maryland and they did that and ended up rushing several of those guys.

just a thought, hope you can use some of these suggestions and i hope you guys have a good semester. keep posting and let us know how things are going and if you need anything else.

If you cant have a party, then my suggestion is to have a large poker tournament. Everyone seems to like playing cards these days, everyone can play and you can have some sort of prize.

Simple Ideas from Simple People!

Jason Lenox

Jason has good points and you should listen to them. I would expand on those with just these comments:

1. If you have a good relationship with some sororities, ask them for the names of prospective members. Different circles may yield many more names than you would come up with on your own.

2. Do not lock yourself in to just one "Rush" in the Spring. If you associate 10 new guys in January, springboard off those guys with another recruitment period in March or April. It may sound like a redundant slogan from the Headquarters, but recruitment is a year round activity. Unless your IFC restricts it, there is no prohibition on the number of association periods you can have in any given semester. Whether subsequent groups are 3, 5, 10, or 20 guys, you will do better with rolling recruitment.

in ZAX,
Eric

suggestion
 

Does your chapter do Watermelon Bust?? Usually in the fall,
and not good outdoors in the Winter, but how about a variation:

If they'll go along, set up some kind of sorority competition.
Invite rushees to be the "judges"....basically, get the girls
there and the rushees will follow! ;)

Maybe a better suggestion is team up with a sorority and do
a service project...invite rushees to help. Maybe THE GIRLS
can throw an after-activity party and "invite" the LX's and
rushees. :)

Youre already closed unless you change your mindset about recruitment. Some good suggestions have been given here, but take the emphasis off the damn house. Obviously its not as big of a selling point as you think, or it would be full.

Also, people join people, not houses. We were the only group on campus to have a house for a good 10 years and our numbers were damn near identical to the rest of the fraternities on campus. It really made no difference.

Recruitment is 24/7/365 do or die. Understand it and adapt to it or dont and die. The choice is yours. Pick up the Great Passage workbook and have your delta memorize it and put it into practice. So many chapters have had success with it, why NOT try it?

Good luck.

Brother Josh,

I hope you are still keeping up with this thread.

All of the Brothers here especially Alums are Very Active with The LXA Organization and Brothers from the Active to Alum level whether it be with Their Local Chapter or other Chapters.

That shows to me what LXA is all about, being a Brother is not just the local guys but all LXs. As (Andy) lifesaver, said, unless you and the Chapter changes your mind set, then you will not succeed.

What this boils down to, is that there has to be some changes before You as a Chapter can continue or fail.

Trust each of us, We have all been there whether with Our Chapters or Adopted Chapters. Check back through some of the threads and see what each of many GC LXAs do with their or other Chapters. Tells me what LXA means to us and many more like us who are not on this site.

Why not ask some of the Chapter Brothers to try this site and see what Being a Brother Really means.

Wow... Tom I gotta say this one of your more coherent posts I've seen:p

Hey Coop, Thanks for the compliment, I think!;)

Re: suggestion
 

Brother Joiner,

You say those words and my ears perk up...Watermelon Bust! If you have seen or heard of the even at UK the past few years, yes, that was my doing. Anywho, if anyone reading this thread is interested in Watermelon Bust that doesn't do it, I have one killer WB program that has been complimented by many people of the fraternity. Hit me up, and I will be glad to share it with you.

Timmay!
E-Phi 1450
Student Advisory Committee

Timmay, PM or email me with particulars and will pass along to LX Z!

Thanks,

Hey can I help the NC chapter?
 

I come over to Charlotte once or twice a year to visit my cousin who is a Lambda Chi from Chattanooga also ( he and his family live there and work there ) and also to attend Carolina Coaster Con ( sponsored by American Coaster Enthusiasts-Southeast Region ). May also apply to some law schools in NC.

Would you guys be kewl with a brother who is 37yo hangin with you and helpin out some?


Thought and Prayers are with y'all!!!!

Yours in ZAX,

Roy
Zeta Phi 708

Josh what will happpen to the BU house that is only like 8 years old, that was a huge undertaking for your chapter to finance and build that house.

Glad things are working out BTW

zax

Lenoxxx

Josh, thanks for the update and am damn glad to hear what You Brothers are doing for an increased growth.

Please give us a bigger fill in as just read Jasons post.