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The1calledTKE 06-24-2004 08:04 PM

Cheney utters "F-word"
 
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney has blurted out the "F word" at Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont during a heated exchange on the Senate floor, according to congressional aides.

The incident occurred on Tuesday in a terse discussion between the two that touched on politics, religion and money, with Cheney finally telling Leahy to "f--- off" or "go f--- yourself," the aides said on Thursday.

"I think he was just having a bad day," Leahy was quoted as saying on CNN, which first reported the incident. "I was kind of shocked to hear that kind of language on the floor."

"That doesn't sound like language the vice president would use but there was a frank exchange of views," said Cheney spokesman Kevin Kellems.

According to congressional aides, Leahy said hello to Cheney following the taking of the Senate group photo on the floor of the chamber.

Cheney, who is president of the Senate, then ripped into Leahy for the Democratic senator's criticism this week of alleged war profiteering in Iraq by Halliburton, the oil services company that Cheney once ran.

Leahy and other Democrats have called for congressional hearings into whether the vice president helped the firm win lucrative contracts in Iraq after the U.S.-led war that toppled Saddam Hussein.

for full article
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackage...8&section=news

I wonder if this will end up a big deal? I don't think it is. I bet every politician says something like that about another at one point justmost people don't here it.

PhiPsiRuss 06-24-2004 08:26 PM

Who the f--- cares?

swissmiss04 06-24-2004 08:44 PM

Make no mistake.....





I would have paid good money to be there when it happened!!!!

Kevin 06-24-2004 10:56 PM

I applaud Cheney. But it's a good thing he didn't say it on C-Span. The FCC would have to go after him. That would have been poetic justice.

Rudey 06-24-2004 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
I applaud Cheney. But it's a good thing he didn't say it on C-Span. The FCC would have to go after him. That would have been poetic justice.
No they wouldn't. The FCC is an organization that answers to nobody but the President really. The FCC didn't go after several people including Oprah and won't go after Cheney.

-Rudey
--Go fuck yourself you stupid freedom of speech hating chodes.

DeltAlum 06-24-2004 11:05 PM

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone..."

valkyrie 06-24-2004 11:11 PM

Why is it that every time a republican does something a little naughty *cough Jack Ryan cough* he ends up trying to take the focus on himself by talking crap about a democrat?

I suppose it's just the nature of politics, huh?

Rudey 06-24-2004 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
Why is it that every time a republican does something a little naughty *cough Jack Ryan cough* he ends up trying to take the focus on himself by talking crap about a democrat?

I suppose it's just the nature of politics, huh?

Who got caught? What did Ryan have to do with this??

As for Ryan:
1) They were accusations.
2) I'm sure you as a public defender understand that accusations are not fact.
3) Even if they were real, so what? Well I guess it's one of those bizarre things that you really wish you hadn't heard and makes you really look at someone different. But anyway it's something personal that he did or does and they brought it out for what??

-Rudey

moe.ron 06-25-2004 03:24 AM

They should resolve this like a true gentlemen. Dawn, in front of the capital. Dual between two gentlemen.

PhiPsiRuss 06-25-2004 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moe.ron
They should resolve this like a true gentlemen. Dawn, in front of the capital. Dual between two gentlemen.
Who is Dawn, and what does she have to do with this?

ztawinthropgirl 06-25-2004 10:44 AM

Before you had a dual of two gentlemen between a Republican and a Democrat, you'd first have to find a gentleman in the Republican party. I wish you luck in your quest but I'm not holding my breath.

Xylochick216 06-25-2004 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ztawinthropgirl
Before you had a dual of two gentlemen between a Republican and a Democrat, you'd first have to find a gentleman in the Republican party. I wish you luck in your quest but I'm not holding my breath.
I almost snorted milk out of my nose when I read this. Love it :)

sugar and spice 06-25-2004 01:43 PM

This post reminded me of how I almost said the f-word in front of my grandma last week.

Now that was embarrassing.

DeltaSigStan 06-25-2004 01:46 PM

Fucking A! That's Shocking!

Rudey 06-25-2004 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ztawinthropgirl
Before you had a dual of two gentlemen between a Republican and a Democrat, you'd first have to find a gentleman in the Republican party. I wish you luck in your quest but I'm not holding my breath.
Yeah OK. I submit Evidence A to the jury on why Democrats are retarded.

-Rudey

ASTATEPIKE 06-25-2004 11:00 PM

Quit Your Nagging
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ztawinthropgirl
Before you had a dual of two gentlemen between a Republican and a Democrat, you'd first have to find a gentleman in the Republican party. I wish you luck in your quest but I'm not holding my breath.

If the measure of a gentleman is not cursing - I seem to recall a certain Candidate (John Kerry) - using the dreaded F*** word in a Rolling Stone Interview earlier this year.

Kevin 06-25-2004 11:14 PM

I think finding a true "gentleman" on either side of the aisle would be a helluva challenge. Decorum and politics have really become incongruous.

DeltAlum 06-26-2004 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
I think finding a true "gentleman" on either side of the aisle would be a helluva challenge. Decorum and politics have really become incongruous.
Amen, and Amen.

Pike1483 06-26-2004 01:55 AM

Ha ha! That cracks me up! Get 'em Cheney!! It also cracks me up that some people are more offended by the F-bomb than Clinton using an intern as an ash-tray.

DeltAlum 06-26-2004 02:03 AM

This whole thing is much ado about nothing to me -- but to purists, the trauma here is not the use of the word itself, but rather the breaking of tradition and protocol on the floor of the Senate.

You are supposed to be a Gentleperson there.

Senusret I 06-26-2004 08:36 AM

Speaking of cursing....so, I was leaving a message for my mom one day last week, and I was talking about the kids I work with. I don't even remember what EXACTLY I was talking about but I let the BIG one slip....

Me talking to the voice mail: "....yeah, cuz THESE mufuckas are CRAZY. And then I....ooooooh, I cussed. Sorry!"

mmcat 06-26-2004 09:15 AM

one wonders what he might say if all was known about haliburton and his involvement there? plus, the serious campaign stress hasn't even hit yet.

KSigkid 06-26-2004 10:57 AM

I don't think people are necessarily more offended by this than by Clinton's act...it just happens that this is the "news" of the moment.

Kevin 06-26-2004 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
This whole thing is much ado about nothing to me -- but to purists, the trauma here is not the use of the word itself, but rather the breaking of tradition and protocol on the floor of the Senate.

You are supposed to be a Gentleperson there.

It was on the senate floor, but they weren't in session. So technically, rules of decorum didn't apply. So he won't be censured.

labeachgrl 06-26-2004 01:18 PM

I don't think the rules even apply to Cheney since he's not a member of the Senate, but rather the Executive branch

DeltAlum 06-26-2004 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by labeachgrl
I don't think the rules even apply to Cheney since he's not a member of the Senate, but rather the Executive branch
The Vice President is the President of, and presides over, the Senate. He also is the tiebreaker in case of a tie vote.

labeachgrl 06-26-2004 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
The Vice President is the President of, and presides over, the Senate. He also is the tiebreaker in case of a tie vote.
I only thought it didn't apply because of the following paragraph from the Washington Post

Quote:

There is no rule against obscene language by a vice president on the Senate floor. The senators were present for a group picture and not in session, so Rule 19 of the Senate rules -- which prohibits vulgar statements "unbecoming a senator" -- does not apply, according to a Senate official. Even if the Senate were in session, the vice president, though constitutionally the president of the Senate, is an executive branch official and therefore free to use whatever language he likes.

Kevin 06-26-2004 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by labeachgrl
I only thought it didn't apply because of the following paragraph from the Washington Post
So then there are two reasons:

Not a member and not in session.

Either way, it doesn't really matter.

DeltAlum 06-26-2004 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by labeachgrl
I only thought it didn't apply because of the following paragraph from the Washington Post
On the other hand, while not technically a violation, it is probably a tradition that is not often broken -- or there wouldn't be this kind of an uproar.

From my own past experience with these kinds of protocals, I used to direct a pool feed for Colorado TV stations of the Governor's State of the State address every year.

Although it is unwritten, it is an understanding that nobody walks down the center aisle of the House Chamber on that day until after the Governor has.

What difference does that make? None at all -- it's just tradition.

As mentioned above, in this case there can be no censure of the Vice President because of the technicality.

dekeguy 07-01-2004 12:04 PM

As regards gentlemen, I am reminded of a conversation between Cardinal Newman and Oscar Wilde. The good Cardinal said that a gentleman never knowingly gives offence. Wilde responded, Oh no your Eminence, a gentleman never UNknowingly gives offence.

As regards the decorum of the senate, I seem to remember reading in American History that Senators used cane each other in the chamber and that while duelling was technically illegal duels were fought between Senators, and Congressmen, into the early 20th Century.

As to Republicans and Democrats who are gentlemen I defer to Brother Theodore Roosevelt, Alpha of DKE, who in a discussion on the relative merits of Ladies and Gentlemen and their qualifications to be considered as such, said that the best course was to consider all brothers to be valient and all sisters to be virtuous unless and until they proved themselves to be otherwise, and even then it didn't hurt to err on the side of generosity.

krazy 07-02-2004 01:37 PM

What about Teddy Kennedy?


He is a gentleman... right?




http://www.atlascomm.net/spgreen86/images/teddyswim.jpg

KSigkid 07-03-2004 09:20 AM

Thanks Krazy...I just puked in my own mouth.

GeekyPenguin 07-03-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
Speaking of cursing....so, I was leaving a message for my mom one day last week, and I was talking about the kids I work with. I don't even remember what EXACTLY I was talking about but I let the BIG one slip....

Me talking to the voice mail: "....yeah, cuz THESE mufuckas are CRAZY. And then I....ooooooh, I cussed. Sorry!"

Hehehe...the GPMom had me on speakerphone at work once and I was walking downtown and I was saying something like "yeah, class wasn't too bad, heading down to Qdoba to get some...F*** YOU TOO, MR BUS DRIVER...nachos before my meeting" and I could hear the lady in the next cubicle gasp. Whoops.

DeltAlum 07-08-2004 10:04 AM

Check out the great comic strip on the "Edwards/VP" thread.

Whether you like Cheney or not -- whether you think his use of language is good or bad, this strip (it's toward the bottomo of the page) is pretty funny:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...5&pagenumber=2

swissmiss04 07-08-2004 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by krazy
What about Teddy Kennedy?


He is a gentleman... right?




http://www.atlascomm.net/spgreen86/images/teddyswim.jpg

I think those boobies tell otherwise. :eek:

KillarneyRose 07-08-2004 11:48 PM

Re: Cheney utters "F-word"
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney has blurted out the "F word" at Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont during a heated exchange on the Senate floor, according to congressional aides......

I wonder if this will end up a big deal? I don't think it is. I bet every politician says something like that about another at one point justmost people don't here it.


Yes, but will it cause as much mass whining as when KR used the "B-word" on GreekChat? http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmili...sad/ponder.gif

The1calledTKE 07-10-2004 12:09 PM

http://www.washingtonblade.com/aramsfiles/cheney.gif

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Se..._hd.hlarge.jpg

and here is a news article where you can buy go f**k yourself Cheney quote shirts.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...oe_life_cheney


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