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KSUViolet06 06-22-2004 05:56 PM

Ever Met a Person Falsely Claiming To Be A Member of Your Org?
 
Hey guys! As you can tell, I love questions. So, ever met someone falsely claiming to be XYZ? How did you find out they weren't? Is there anything one can really do about this?

I'll post my fake-XYZ story later, kinda long.

Kevin 06-22-2004 06:05 PM

Yep, at least I think so. The other night, one of my younger brother's friends was in town. He claimed to be a Sigma Nu. Earlier that day, my younger brother had tried to show me that he knew our handshake. He showed me something that was close (but no cigar). Then his friend later that day gave me the exact same close handshake and claimed to be a Sigma Nu.

I called BS on him of course and he accused me of being a fake or something. I asked him for his badge # which he didn't remember. I know the chapter that he claimed to be from. Those guys introduce themselves by name and badge #.

Nothing you can do except laugh it off, let 'em know it's pretty lame to be trying to be something that they'll never be...

What else is there to do?

Optimist Prime 06-22-2004 06:56 PM

Yeah.

TheEpitome1920 06-22-2004 07:00 PM

Sure Have...
 
It didn't help that she claimed to be from a chapter that was only about 2 hours away. Perps need to understand that someone somewhere knows somebody.:D

APhi Sailorgirl 06-23-2004 04:09 PM

This was a few years before me, but a girl claiming to be an A-Phi came to my chapter and was even elected President. She initiated a class (I know some of those sisters) and then apparently everyone found out. So there is definitely a composite with no President for one year.

She did transfer in (as far as I remember), and we haven't had any transfers while I was in. Guess just shows you have to do all your hw and paperwork.

I just feel bad for those sisters because they felt violated by being initiated by her and she wasn't a sister.

_Lisa_ 06-23-2004 04:21 PM

There is a girl that I've run into several times at LCC (Lexington Community College) that wears Sigma Kappa shirts & whatnot & says she is a member of the Georgetown chapter. I know she isn't a sister 'cause she thinks our symbols are pearls (really the heart & dove), our flowers are carnations (its really the violet), our colors are really pink & purple (instead of lavender & maroon) & she thinks our philanthropy is Breast Cancer. I mean really-this is all information she could've taken off our web site if she really wanted to be a poser I don't know why she didn't!

But in all seriousness, I know for a fact she isn't 'cause I've looked her name up in the sister directory & it isn't there.

Firehouse 06-23-2004 04:34 PM

On This Board
 
I think there have been people on GreekChat claiming to be members of fraternities and I suspect they are not.

valkyrie 06-23-2004 04:37 PM

Re: On This Board
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Firehouse
I think there have been people on GreekChat claiming to be members of fraternities and I suspect they are not.
I'm sure this is probably true. I'd love to find out who, though.

mu_agd 06-23-2004 04:40 PM

Re: Re: On This Board
 
Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
I'm sure this is probably true. I'd love to find out who, though.
fine, i'll admit it, it's me! i'm a fake alpha gam!



:D

aephi alum 06-23-2004 04:43 PM

APhi Sailorgirl - wow, that's some story. I know my jaw is on the floor here somewhere...

At the same time (although I am so wrong for saying this), I can just picture her at initiation. "Now I will reveal the secret meaning of our letters... uhh, LINE!" :eek:

Haven't encountered a perp yet, but you can bet I'd do my homework before revealing any privileged information.

Nikki_DZ 06-23-2004 04:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by mu_agd
fine, i'll admit it, it's me! i'm a fake alpha gam!



:D

Me, too! :D)

SiKeS 06-23-2004 06:27 PM

Back in highschool (not too long ago for me) I remember seeing a lot of guys wearing shirts with a fraternity's greek letters (i've seen sigma nu, pike, farmhouse and ag sig)

This was even at the beginning of the schoolyear so obviously they weren't members and theres a pretty good chance they hadn't signed because it was so early in the year...

I was never sure if they had brothers in those fraternities or whatever, but many I'm assuming went to our local greek shop or a greek website and ordered the letters... And started strutting around school w/ em.

I was still in HS and couldn't prove anything so i just sort of shook my head and walked off

Thats as close as I've seen to someone pretending to be part of an org they're not..

-Matt

Rudey 06-23-2004 06:39 PM

Re: On This Board
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Firehouse
I think there have been people on GreekChat claiming to be members of fraternities and I suspect they are not.
Alumni initiates maybe so they don't know how greek life is at the undergrad level?

-Rudey

steelepike 06-23-2004 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SiKeS
Back in highschool (not too long ago for me) I remember seeing a lot of guys wearing shirts with a fraternity's greek letters (i've seen sigma nu, pike, farmhouse and ag sig)



-Matt

I wear my gamma phi shirts all the time just hoping someone will ask if i am one.

ok that might not be the real reason but hey a pink shirt is still cool

HPU PIKE 06-23-2004 07:27 PM

funny story...
 
A good friend of mine has a brother (biological) that transferred in from Ole Miss. I can't prove that he wasn't actually a member of the fraternity he claimed to be from, but I know a lot of the things he told us were absolute BS. It almost seemed as if he didn't even try to make his lies believable. Here are just a few of the excerpts of the mountain of crap he tried to feed to everyone:

-he was a member of a 198 member pledge class. Yes, Ole Miss is big. But I would dare say there is a fraternity with over 198 members, let alone a single pledge class.

-Eli Manning (NFL) was supposedly his big brother. I have checked out XYZ's website and there is no indication that Eli Manning was ever a member of THAT group, not to mention being this chumps big bro.

-This XYZ was somehow able to book bands such as Blink182 and Sublime for their average weekend parties. I smell bullisht.

The lies go on and on and because of them, I tend to doubt that this guy was even a member of his alleged fraternity. The website also showed no evidence that he was ever there...but of course that isn't necessarily enough proof to say either way.


As for high school kids wearing letters...that's pathetic. I have heard of high school greek orgs, though mostly sororities.

steelepike 06-23-2004 07:35 PM

Re: funny story...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by HPU PIKE
A good friend of mine has a brother (biological) that transferred in from Ole Miss. I can't prove that he wasn't actually a member of the fraternity he claimed to be from, but I know a lot of the things he told us were absolute BS. It almost seemed as if he didn't even try to make his lies believable. Here are just a few of the excerpts of the mountain of crap he tried to feed to everyone:

-he was a member of a 198 member pledge class. Yes, Ole Miss is big. But I would dare say there is a fraternity with over 198 members, let alone a single pledge class.

-Eli Manning (NFL) was supposedly his big brother. I have checked out XYZ's website and there is no indication that Eli Manning was ever a member of THAT group, not to mention being this chumps big bro.

-This XYZ was somehow able to book bands such as Blink182 and Sublime for their average weekend parties. I smell bullisht.

The lies go on and on and because of them, I tend to doubt that this guy was even a member of his alleged fraternity. The website also showed no evidence that he was ever there...but of course that isn't necessarily enough proof to say either way.


As for high school kids wearing letters...that's pathetic. I have heard of high school greek orgs, though mostly sororities.

dude i had a 204 man pledge class and Frederick Southgate Taylor was my big.


His lies were way deep. Funny deep

HPU PIKE 06-23-2004 07:59 PM

Re: Re: funny story...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by steelepike
dude i had a 204 man pledge class and Frederick Southgate Taylor was my big.


His lies were way deep. Funny deep



oh snap. i was 1 of 338 in my pledge class. I designed the 2nd coat of arms, AND James Benjamin Sclater Jr. was my roommate at 47.

emperorclb 06-23-2004 08:11 PM

Aw for real? Thats tight! Man you guys are lucky.

Imperial1 06-23-2004 09:22 PM

Re: Sure Have...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
It didn't help that she claimed to be from a chapter that was only about 2 hours away. Perps need to understand that someone somewhere knows somebody.:D
And to add, Perps need to stay in their lanes when we find out they fake. :cool:

Imperial1

Dionysus 06-23-2004 09:26 PM

I perped as a Zeta once. Is that okay?

When I was pledging, I told this one guy I was a Zeta pledge (as in ZTA), and he ASSumed that I was a ZPhiB pledge. I didn't correct him. :p

Imperial1 06-23-2004 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
I perped as a Zeta once. Is that okay?

When I was pledging, I told this one guy I was a Zeta pledge (as in ZTA), and he ASSumed that I was a ZPhiB pledge. I didn't correct him. :p

Well if he ASSumed you meant ZPhiB, and you didn't, you was not perping. SO YOU'RE SAYING U PERPED YOUR OWN ORG? :eek:

Imperial1

tinydancer 06-23-2004 09:37 PM

Re: Re: On This Board
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Alumni initiates maybe so they don't know how greek life is at the undergrad level?

-Rudey

Now, now, Rudey - don't be mean!;)

PlymouthDZ 06-23-2004 09:40 PM

We have a few girls come to our house with letters on, saying they were form our UConn chapter.

One of the older girls called her friend, who was part of the UConn chapter and asked about these girls and we found out they were fakes. Needless to say, they didn't stay at our house for long after they were confronted..

DGqueen17 06-23-2004 10:08 PM

When I was like 8 or 9 I told a girl I saw wearing Kappa letters that I was a Kappa. I guess I misunderstood when my mom told me about how I was a legacy. I thought I was already a Kappa even though I had no idea what that meant. How funny that must have been for the girl, she did laugh at me.

4RunnerStar 06-23-2004 10:19 PM

well i've got a story i guess, but i'm not greek yet so its not MY org. still...it was kinda obnoxious and upsetting.

my story is about these 3 girls that graduated a year before me. i had them all in a class my junior year and i talked to them the whole year and went to tailgate parties with them and hung out with them occassionally and really liked their personalities. one weekend i couldnt make it to a tailgate party with them because i had previous engagements and they came back with a whole bunch of KD stickers and KD written all over everything they put their hands on and did nothing but talk about how the girls in that certain KD chapter basically told them that in the fall they'd be voted in and didnt have to worry about anything during the week of rush. they were so exited and got shirts that had KD on it and wore them constantly and for the rest of the year thats ALL they talked about was "this weekend at the KD house..." it got on my nerves because i knew that it wasnt right for those girls to tell them they were in MONTHS before graduation. but all 3 of them are sisters now and i'm really happy for them. its not that they were pretending to be something they werent but it kinda fits here seeing as how they considered themselves sisters in advance.

PureGoldF2K1 06-23-2004 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DGqueen17
When I was like 8 or 9 I told a girl I saw wearing Kappa letters that I was a Kappa. I guess I misunderstood when my mom told me about how I was a legacy. I thought I was already a Kappa even though I had no idea what that meant. How funny that must have been for the girl, she did laugh at me.

That is SUCH an adorable story. I'm sure the older girls understood what you meant or else they probably just thought you were the cutest little wanna-be Kappa ever. Haha:D

GeekyPenguin 06-24-2004 01:44 AM

No fake Gamma Phis yet (it's pretty hard to fake) but there have been quite a few fake other ones....one lady came into my store in a Delta Delta Delta/Sigma Nu shirt, so I asked her where she was a Tri Delta at, and she goes "Oh it's my sisters, but she's the other letters, not that." Her sister is a Sigma Nu? Um, ok.

There are a few girls from my high school that lie about what sorority they're in at UW - like they won't get caught?

thefarns233 06-24-2004 02:05 AM

I like how people try to be sneaky about where they are greek at, when they just look stupid in the end... but i do get a good laugh at it. It's kinda flattering that people would fake to be what i am. Meh, maybe im just egotistical lol.

AXOKatie 06-24-2004 10:17 AM

one of my friends is a member of a chapter on campus that always ends up catching other people wearing their letters and bid day shirts. i think that their members give them to the good will next to campus and people end up buying them and wearing them around. anyways, she saw a guy once with their letters on at a party and he started yelling "Hey, look at me! i'm an XYZ bee-yotch! i suck!" and being a loud jerk, so she and some guys run over to him and she clocked him right across the face and the guys stripped him of his shirt...not that i think he cared because he seemed to have consumed more than his share of alcohol...so not exactly someone pretending to be a member, but it was still funny :D

emb021 06-24-2004 10:19 AM

Re: Ever Met a Person Falsely Claiming To Be A Member of Your Org?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JocelynC
Hey guys! As you can tell, I love questions. So, ever met someone falsely claiming to be XYZ? How did you find out they weren't? Is there anything one can really do about this?


Sadly, yes. Never students, but two who claimed to be alumni.

One individual I met who claimed to be an alumni. I tried to get him signed up for our alumni association and become a Life Member but he was reluctent to do so. When I spoke about this person to another alumni who happened to know him, he knew that this individual had falsely claimed other things about himself. So I called our National Office to verify his membership. No record was found.

Due to this, the alumni association I am with verifies the membership of anyone who wants to join.

Later I met another person who claimed to be an alumni. He atleast was able to give me the handclasp and knew his chapter letters, but following our process, I checked him out. Again, no record. But in this cause what has happened is some chapters that are shutdown keep operating and many people think they members but they aren't because there is no record of them at our National Office. This is sad because these people are not necessarily falsely claiming to be Brothers, but are denied the right to do so because of the chapter they joined was either shutdown or failed to send in their paperwork.

Bottom line, you should be able to verify the membership of such people. They hopefully have membership cards, and you should be able to contact your National Office to verify their membership.

TheEpitome1920 06-24-2004 10:24 AM

Re: Re: Ever Met a Person Falsely Claiming To Be A Member of Your Org?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by emb021
Sa
Due to this, the alumni association I am with verifies the membership of anyone who wants to join.

Later I met another person who claimed to be an alumni. He atleast was able to give me the handclasp and knew his chapter letters, but following our process, I checked him out. Again, no record. But in this cause what has happened is some chapters that are shutdown keep operating and many people think they members but they aren't because there is no record of them at our National Office. This is sad because these people are not necessarily falsely claiming to be Brothers, but are denied the right to do so because of the chapter they joined was either shutdown or failed to send in their paperwork.

Bottom line, you should be able to verify the membership of such people. They hopefully have membership cards, and you should be able to contact your National Office to verify their membership.

SO true!!

I'd be surprised at any chapter that didn't review membership documentation prior to letting someone join a chapter.
:confused: I carry my membership card with me at all time. It's so pretty.:D

KSigkid 06-24-2004 10:25 AM

Re: Re: Ever Met a Person Falsely Claiming To Be A Member of Your Org?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by emb021
Sadly, yes. Never students, but two who claimed to be alumni.

One individual I met who claimed to be an alumni. I tried to get him signed up for our alumni association and become a Life Member but he was reluctent to do so. When I spoke about this person to another alumni who happened to know him, he knew that this individual had falsely claimed other things about himself. So I called our National Office to verify his membership. No record was found.

Due to this, the alumni association I am with verifies the membership of anyone who wants to join.

Later I met another person who claimed to be an alumni. He atleast was able to give me the handclasp and knew his chapter letters, but following our process, I checked him out. Again, no record. But in this cause what has happened is some chapters that are shutdown keep operating and many people think they members but they aren't because there is no record of them at our National Office. This is sad because these people are not necessarily falsely claiming to be Brothers, but are denied the right to do so because of the chapter they joined was either shutdown or failed to send in their paperwork.

Bottom line, you should be able to verify the membership of such people. They hopefully have membership cards, and you should be able to contact your National Office to verify their membership.

How many orgs have membership cards? When a Lambda Chi friend of mine showed me his I was a bit surprised, as Kappa Sig doesn't not have them. We got membership certificates, but nothing we could carry with us.

Luckily (as I know of) I've never encountered anyone faking to be a Kappa Sig. Then again I've never communicated sensitive information to anyone that I didn't absolutely know was a brother.

TheEpitome1920 06-24-2004 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
How many orgs have membership cards? When a Lambda Chi friend of mine showed me his I was a bit surprised, as Kappa Sig doesn't not have them. We got membership certificates, but nothing we could carry with us.

Luckily (as I know of) I've never encountered anyone faking to be a Kappa Sig. Then again I've never communicated sensitive information to anyone that I didn't absolutely know was a brother.

Wow, that's interesting. We have certificates and cards.

sageofages 06-24-2004 10:35 AM

Re: Re: Re: Ever Met a Person Falsely Claiming To Be A Member of Your Org?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
How many orgs have membership cards? When a Lambda Chi friend of mine showed me his I was a bit surprised, as Kappa Sig doesn't not have them. We got membership certificates, but nothing we could carry with us.

Same with us. We get a certificate suitable for framing. Hardly wallet size to show around.

I have encountered women who say they are sisters. When I check with the EO, they are sisters who have left their chapters "not in good standing". (translate they owed money and may or may not have been aware of it). I usually then contact that person and inform them. Some pay the back fees, a few have not.

I find those that have left (voluntarily withdrawn membership) say "I was a XYZ but I quit" and that part of the conversation usually ends :).

AXOKatie 06-24-2004 10:47 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Ever Met a Person Falsely Claiming To Be A Member of Your Org?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sageofages
I find those that have left (voluntarily withdrawn membership) say "I was a XYZ but I quit" and that part of the conversation usually ends :).
see, i always find those conversations really awkward because some people ask about members or then start bashing their former organization...sometimes with their old letters on! i never really know how you go about being like "Ummm, you withdrew, can we have our letters back now?" because sometimes their leaving's not always for attitude or disciplinary reasons...

APhi Sailorgirl 06-24-2004 11:06 AM

It must be something in the water
 
Yeah so I posted one before, but how about when someone who was terminated from your chapter shows up a year later to an event WITH your bid day shirt on!!!

It was MAJOR DRAMA. This was also the night of big sis reveals and so half of our chapter (those who had come in after her) were like "who's this girl and why is she wearing our shirt??" AND since it was an event that we did't want to cause drama, our President very graciously handled it low-key and very well.

And it wasn't like she left b/c it wasn't for her or financial problems, she just left, stopped coming and was then terminated due to not paying dues!!

Thankfully her one ally in the chapter graduated with me this spring, so hopefully it won't be an issue.

chitownnupe 06-24-2004 11:06 AM

I think we all have. I was at Walgreens (Chi-town represent!!!) and this dude was like "What's up, Nupe!!!" Now I don't let anyone call em a Nupe that isnt Greek and this guy had no perry. So I went to grip him and he was like his hand was hurting :confused:. So I asked him where he pledged and he said my chapter (Kappa Phi) :mad:. So I said "What year?" He said he was a neo :mad: :mad:. I WAS THE LAST LINE THEY CROSSED AT THAT TIME!!!! I mean I should have knocked him the hell out but this time, Thank God, my sane side was thinking so I just walked away and was like, Dude, next time you lie, don't lie abotu a city chapter. ...cause I am from the city chapter.

Imperial1 06-24-2004 11:10 AM

Re: Re: Re: Ever Met a Person Falsely Claiming To Be A Member of Your Org?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920

I carry my membership card with me at all time. It's so pretty.:D

I still got my first membership card and the new one I got. :D I like the new card though cause it's my fav. color. :cool:

Imperial1

AXOKatie 06-24-2004 11:30 AM

Re: It must be something in the water
 
Quote:

Originally posted by APhi Sailorgirl
Yeah so I posted one before, but how about when someone who was terminated from your chapter shows up a year later to an event WITH your bid day shirt on!!!

It was MAJOR DRAMA. This was also the night of big sis reveals and so half of our chapter (those who had come in after her) were like "who's this girl and why is she wearing our shirt??" AND since it was an event that we did't want to cause drama, our President very graciously handled it low-key and very well.

And it wasn't like she left b/c it wasn't for her or financial problems, she just left, stopped coming and was then terminated due to not paying dues!!

Thankfully her one ally in the chapter graduated with me this spring, so hopefully it won't be an issue.

Ohhhhhh, i know how that goes....

we had a couple girls from a group of friends in the chapter leave because of personal reasons during the first half of their senior year but they were like "Can we still come to Senior Formal?" and they were told no with an apology because they had resigned but we still appreciated all of their contributions to the chapter, etc. Then Senior Formal rolls around and a couple of the sisters signed them up as dates. It was madness and drama, i tell you...although i can understand why these girls would want to come to their formal even though they left, seeing as how they gave a lot of time to the chapter...but then again, they also benefitted in a situation where they didn't have to pay anything for an event that the rest of the chapter paid a lot of money for, including the space, food and other stuff.

IvySpice 06-24-2004 12:29 PM

I've met a lot of people who claimed to be students or alumni of my college. Some of them went to pretty elaborate lengths to front.


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