Sensitive Subject: Drop
 

Hi. I'm currently pledging and have been for over 4 months.. Long time. And I don't see it coming to an end soon to be honest with you. We're not supposed to know when it ends, but it's gone on for so long I don't see how it could end any quicker. So with that said my fall schedule will begin and this year is crucial so I canNOT be pledging while school begins because I WILL fail my classes if I have to deal with pledging stuff too. So I'm thinking of dropping, not because I can't deal with it.. because I HAVE for 4 freakin months... But I would like to ask.. does the entire greek community including other frats and sorors know who drops? If so do drops get treated badly? Because I don't want drama... I just want to make sure that by fall things clear up because failing out of school is definitely not an option. I need advice. **distance factor reason for length. me and brothers live hours apart**

not knowing when you're going to be initiated, at least for NPC groups, is considered hazing.

Give it 'til the beginning part of next semester at least. Some groups wait until your grades come out to initiate you.

If you are concerned that you will fail there is definately a problem with your organization and it is called hazing. I don't know about other organizations but from what I remember all the National's at my school were not allowed to have the new member process go beyond a certain point, which if I remember correctly was around 4-6 weeks NOT 4-6 months. That is insane. Also, if you are concerned that people are going to "harass" you if you do decide to drop that is another serious issue in and of itself and you should not have to put up with it. I suggest talking to someone of a higher power about this. It is organizations like this that unfortunately give GLO's a bad rep.

Obviously this is either a MC or NPHC group you are looking to joining.

I'd say just trust the process, unless it is causing you a lot of anguish. There might be a good reason for it. Talk to the others in your pledge class or line, see how they feel. Talk to a member of the org. you feel like you can talk to. I'm sure they will be able to offer some help.

However if you really feel that the experience is not going to be worth it, then get the hell out right now.

I think the Beta is right about the NPHC or MC group. If it isn't, then that's wrong in our books. I don't know enough about the other groups to tell you whether it's right, wrong or what you should do so maybe PM one of them. I have no idea how they determine when it ends.

-Rudey

Whoa, there are to many questions by this poster to be addressed without more information.

The only thing that I really got from it was the 'Pledgeship" is 4 Months long.

Is that not about the Length of a Sem. ?

If his not getting Grades, that is another Problem as We all know.

Get Grades or, do not Graduate and participate in Greek Life.

1 post, just wondering?

If a true poster, please come back and explain ,or P M someone who has answered.

All Of Us Will Be More Than Happy To Answer!:cool:

We will try to help and keep it confidential

Try a Moderator Designation first. Listed under signature on the posting list.:cool:

Re: Sensitive Subject: Drop
 

I don't understand this part. Do you mean that since you live "hours apart" from your brothers, your NM process is longer?

Please explain this part further. Thanks!

PsychTau

school comes first..........I would recommend to drop it!

If this is a national org, I'm sure there is someone (many someones) on Greekchat that could help you if you don't feel you can talk to anyone in your own chapter about it (I know sometimes I feel more comfortable talking about stuff with sisters in other chapters here on GC)... Find one of them and Private message them, I'm sure they will be happy to give you more spesific advice.

I completely agree with AlphaFrog. I also wanted to say that you've come a really long way! It might be really bad for you, down the line, if you drop now. You said you didn't know when initiation was, right? What if it's the day after you drop? That would be BAAAAD!!

Definitely talk to someone from your org on GC!!!

Re: Sensitive Subject: Drop
 

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

THAT IS ALL.

Imperial1

I didn't think that NPHC groups allowed pledging anymore? Isn't there a national rule about that . . . but I dunno . . .

Is it NPHC?

He/She mentions "frats and sorors," which typically (please correct me if I'm wrong) denotes an NPHC or MC organization...

All NPHC say frat and soror but only some MC say it.....anyway....I believe he/she should hang in there. Though the process is the longest I've ever heard of. If he/she really wants it he/she should stick it out. Maybe he/she should reevaluate why they are doing this and if they want to continue.


Also, I'm kind of not believing this person for some reason. If you are going to use frat/soror, you aren't usually going to use pleding in the same paragraph. And since they are spilling their guts, they might as well say the rightful word that goes with frat/soror (which most definitely isn't pledging). Something is off. Or am I reading too much into it?
:confused:

I'm with you on that, Soror! It was feeling a little funny. And, the person STILL hasn't come back to tell us.

The suspense is killing me!!

Theta Nu!!!!!!!

ONE Luv!!!!!


I don't think it's real. Probably what people around here call a "troll." Then again maybe not. It's a little shady to me. But I don't think we'll be reading anymore.

I am kinda suspect about this because if this individual was really having these concerns and they were pledging an NPHC organization they'd know how to get answers to these questions.

I think I might not do that if I were that org...it'd be too easy to loose people over breaks, especially if they don't know when initiation is...

I'm pretty sure it's Chi Omega that purposly has initiation after long breaks to give new members time to really think if they want to join (I know they do at WIU and I'm pretty sure it's an international policy)...but they also know their exact date of initiation upfront when they start their new member period. (any Chi-O's correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm 90% sure this is correct info)

Why was my post deleted? :rolleyes: Somebody's pressed.

Imperial1

Imperial1 your post will have been deleted by a forum Moderator [the site administrator can also delete but this is rarer).

The forum moderators for Greek Life are: amycat412 and ZetaAce. Two very nice individuals. NO-ONE other than them (usually) can likely tell you definitively the reason(s) for deletion (unless that person can read their minds). You can find out yourself why it was deleted by simply reading the Site Rules here, and seeing which one(s) your post conflicted with.

Posts may be deleted by a moderator at any time at their sole discretion. If after reading the site rules, you still do not know "why" you can PM either one of the moderators and they can tell you why they deleted it. My ID and the IDs of everyone else bar them are not listed as moderators for Greek Life... so I suggest you ask the only two people who CAN exercise their discretion to delete what made them so act, over your post.

Thank you. :)

I thought Chi Omega held off on initiation so that the new members' grades could come in - as many NPC sororities used to do - but I'm not a Chi O, nor was Chi O represented at my school, so I could be dead wrong.

When setting the length of a new member period, you have to strike the right balance between giving the NMs enough time to meet the sisters/brothers and their pledge sisters/brothers, learn about the org, and decide if they really want to make that final commitment, vs. not making them wait so long that they begin to wonder if they'll ever be initiated, lose hope, and depledge.

<----not trippin about my post being deleted. Just FYI. :cool:

Imperial1

That could be too...maybe the "giving them time to decide" is just something they say at WIU to make it seem like it's more for their benefit...I dunno

What is wrong with saying frat/soror in the same sentence with pledging? Every group doesn't go by the same terminology.
The other people that are pledging with him are probably far apart because they went home for the summer and it's probably difficult to get them all together to do "special activities."

Are you trying to start a chapter because if you are trying to start chapter, sometimes it would take longer for you to finish than a regular line. If you all are pledging a chapter either you all are doing something wrong (not uniting as one) or the chapter is mad disfunctional. If you are seeing internal problems within the chapter, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE....

In general, organizations that say "frat/soror" do not pledge, rather they have MIPs.

"pledging..."
 

When I was in college one of my very best friends was in an nphc group and she called it pledging...Of course I went to a very very small southern arkansas school. (We only had about 3000 students including commuters.)

Re: "pledging..."
 

I'm turning into a troll! I need anti-troll venom!

First, your best friend told you about pledging???????? :confused:
Is discretion a lost art or what?

Second, the NPHC outlawed (for lack of a better word) pledging sometime in the late 80's/early 90's. Does someone else have the actual date??

I honestly think that the use of the word pledging depends on what campus that you are on. Just like I went to many probates that were for nphc groups and they hadn't crossed yet. On most campuses that is never done...

On some campuses pledging for certain groups aren't all underground. Everyone knows who is pledging and it is ok.

I said she "called it pledging"....I didn't say I had never heard of it before then.

Furthermore, I was only letting you know that not all members of NPHC groups are so secretive. At my school it was a very common practice for everyone to know who was on line. Not b/c someone was "breaking the rules" of pledgeship but b/c we were such a small school and everyone knew everyone.


She never gave me details if that is what you are afraid of. I just remember before her actual Initiation (for lack of a better word) it was common for people to say "I'm going this" Or "I'm gonna go that." It's also common for girls that are already members to come to people and say "You should be a..." or "I think you would be a good..." I never knew it was supposed to be a secret thing until I started to read these posts on GC.

P.S....
 

I am not a member of a GLO...I am interested in AI but have not made a decision yet. I just joined these boards to learn more.

The whole thing with he/she saying "pledging" is that it makes me and others wonder why he/she doesn't just use the correct terminology. Why is he/she using this word in the same sentence as frat/soror? Why not use what StumpGirl said in her previous post? This happens to be the correct terminology for most groups that use frat/soror. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Now, there could be a possibility that he/she is just using frat/soror to make it seem like they are "pledging" an NPHC group or possibly an MC when they actually are doing something completely different. Why? Possibly to make them look bad. I personally think it's a troll, and will spend no more time trying to explain or clarify or help this person because to me it seems like a trollish post.....:cool:

Sorry, but you people are driving me compleatly NUTS!!!

It's just freakin' semantics...it doesn't mean a thing!

FOR CHRIST'S SAKE...we have a "RUSH" forum here on GC and everyone knows that that's a dirty word in NPC vocab.

How many NPC girls on here have ever typed rush because recruitment is way too long to type every time and we all know it's the same thing...maybe this person said "pledging" because s/he didn't want to type out new-memeber-period or member-in-training or whatever their fraternity calls it. Maybe it's a local and they don't give a flying F*$&#. Maybe they used frat/soror because they didn't want to type out fraternity and soroity. Maybe they were typing in a hurry and weren't worried about being all PC. I guess we'll know if they ever come back and let us know what happened (which I hope they do)....but until then all you Jr. Freud's are driving me nuts with the overanalyzation.

I don't think pledging is a dirty word when it comes to NPHC organizations. We ALL PLEDGE to our organizations. I only get annoyed when people who aren't members of NPHC organizations swear they know so much about our process:rolleyes:

Good grief! We're all coming from different schools and organizations, so for some of us, it isn't just semantics. Where I went to school, if you said "pledge" in front of a Greek Life Office person, it was like you had just said, "I hazed my new member yesterday."

So, while non-NPC and non-NPHC GCers don't know about the processes of other orgs, some of us DO have a good knowledge of what is acceptable where we're from.

All I'm saying is, yes, I understand that to some people saying "Pledge" is saying "Hazing", but maybe this person isn't coming from one of those places...and like I said, we'll never know until they post again....

I think that's the key point: some things are acceptable in certain areas while others aren't. It can be confusing to outsiders. But when giving out information about these councils I think people should be careful about blanket statements. No harm, no foul.

AlphaFrog, chill my dear. Epitome, if you knew me you would know that I'm not trying to act like I know the way NPHC works. He/she could also have been referring to an MC as well, therefore I do have a right to speak on the issue. That's it from me.


ETA: Never said pleding was a bad word. But it made me suspicious. Tis all people, tis all. :)


*Trying to keep it positive and cool in my 80 degree apartment* ;)