what's so great about the greeks?
 

I really don't like them. I hate our greek system. I lived with a girl that was in a sorority and she changed into a completely different person. Then she left...

So tell me, why would anyone even consider joining one?

trainwreck with a troll conductor... anyone have a picture of that?

I really want to know the reason. What's the benefit? Is it just paying for friends?

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=52088


and this sounds pretty ridiculous

Oh goodie! Today's been pretty boring at work.

Let the entertainment begin!

Hahahaha, who's bringing the drinks?

I don't know if you're serious or not. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. However, your tone leaves much to be desired. We've all heard sanctimonious outsiders telling us it's "Buying our friends", etc. Gross oversimplifications. I'm sorry that your roomie had a bad experience. I wouldn't recommend joining just ANY GLO chapter. Like any other organization, some chapters are great, some are not so great. You may do well to avoid that not so great chapter (or maybe she was just the wrong 'type' of person). Who knows?

I used to think much the same way. I thought of joining a fraternity as "Why would I want to get my ass beat in order to call someone my brother?" (or along those lines). I didn't know anything about fraternities. Then along came the opportunity to join a colony (which is basically a fledgling organization whose goal it is to form a chapter of whatever group on their campus).

My chapter essentially changed my college life -- and my life thereafter. I had a new group of close, dependable friends -- I already had a pretty active social life, but this was a welcome addition. I was able to meet a very diverse group of people. I was able to work with people towards common goals (Greek Week, grades, getting our charter, etc.). It's a hands-on way of learning how to be a leader, a follower, a businessperson, etc. There's nothing like it on campus.

It also opened doors to me which otherwise would never have been open. I only served in Student Government during my final year of school. But because of my reputation within my chapter, I was made chairman of a committee (the Judiciary) that had some critical decisions put in front of it -- and I did an excellent job according to all involved. When I took the role, I knew exactly what to do, how to run a committee, how to interpret actions through bylaws, Senate rules, etc.

Being a Greek is not something I'd recommend for everyone. Although, if you give it a chance, it can be a good experience.

I was just about to say, it's time to pull up some chairs and start cracking open a few beers.

What is so ridiculous? And how can you say that when you don't know anything about it?

Can't really blame em'. You can't expect someone to understand something they know nothing about except the stereotypes they've heard...

Ignorance is only a bad thing when you refuse to do anything about it.

-Matt

Will you accept one who likes bikes?

http://www.christithomas.com/images/troll.jpg

I'm gonna sit back with a G&T to watch this one :D

Exactly.

I find many of your comments in bad taste. Greencup... explain yourself and your intentions. This kind of response reflects poorly upon us, especially to non-greeks. This thread presents an opportunity (whether we're dealing with a troll or not) to explain why Greek Life is something we chose.

So let's not mock people, let's answer their questions.

I paid for Tshirts, and Leadership Workshops, and food, and pictures, and phone calls to our National leaders, and educational programs, and supplies, and a magazine, and a monthly newsletter, and scholarship funds for others, and the opportunity to grow interpersonally and intrapersonally.

I did not pay for my friends. They paid for their own Tshirts, and Leadership Workshops, and food, and ........

PsychTau

Good answers ktsnake and PsychTau. :)

I'll make the margaritas.

Re: what's so great about the greeks?
 

If your girlfriend was still your girlfriend, I really doubt that you'd be so anti-Greek. Or maybe she's not your girlfriend any more because you ARE anti-Greek and she got tired of hearing you criticize something she loves. Or maybe it's because you didn't want her to grow or have friends outside of you.

As far as that thread, it was resolved...the thread starter herself said she was being overly cautious. Please read the WHOLE thread.

Honestly, if your girlfriend had joined any other group and left you, you'd probably hate them too.

ETA that I assumed you are a male. However, if you're female, substitute "friend" for "girlfriend" and it still works.

That is an awesome way to put it!

they make great baklava :D

I didn't know her when I moved in, but I knew the other five roommates. I just never understood the reasons. I thought it was for people that can't make friends themselves, so they turn to frats/sor. Freshman year in college I partied for two weekends at frats, and they just wanted sex. It seems like high school. Watching "Sorority Life" and reading articles. And I know you are going to say sorority life is completely inaccurate, but from the sororities I've been to, it was pretty similar.

I've got chips and salsa and a 12 pack of Dos Equis...Let's get this party started!

mexican theme today, nikki?

where's that picture of T that i love?

I could turn it around and say how I've heard that GDIs don't belong to fraternities and sororities because they couldn't cut it, were cut or don't have the social ability to...

But that'd be entirely stereotypical and of course is completely inaccurate.

So you've heard stereotypes... You don't understand greek life... I doubt anybody here wants to sit and try to convince you of anything. It is a personal choice everyone makes for themselves and it is something that you will not understand unless you have tried it first hand. Lets just leave it at that.

-Matt

I won't lie. Some organizations fit the stereotype COMPLETELY. Others do not. Not everyone is inclined to join. I'll tell you that my social life went from great to greater when I

And about men wanting sex...

Gee.. shocker:eek:

Seriously though, our undergrad chapter (I'm an alum now) emphasizes things such as honor, ettiquette, behaving as gentlemen. Yes, occasionally, we do have slip ups. We do have members that all out of line. It is a strong enough group of guys that we are able to help those guys back on their feet.

It's a stronger group than any group of friends I've had. We also had assetts that any group of friends I've had never had (make sense?) such as a house, a social schedule written on a calendar, interaction with other fine organizations of the opposite gender. Cool stuff like that.

I enjoyed it. You may not. I for one have no hard feelings over that fact.

and spanikopita

shot of ouzo anyone?

If you didn't know her when you moved in, how do you know that she "became a different person"? :confused: Did she stiff y'all on the rent?

And all I can say about Sorority Life is...when you were living with your roommates, did you stay there rent free? Did you have drama 24/7? Did you have a camera crew filming your every move? Did you not have radios or TVs? I didn't think so. Life is not like an MTV show - ANY MTV show.

And like ktsnake said, duh - college guys want to get laid. It's the same everywhere, not just fraternity parties.

Amen Matt!

Now pass some of that food over...

With that same logic, i went to two theater parties while in college and saw everyone dressed in costumes, so does that mean that all theater people dress in costumes all the time?

Guys want sex in college, in a fraternity, or not. Period. College kids have sex. College kids drink. Fraternity members drink and fraternity members have sex.... but not all of them. This is kind of the rectangle/square thing.

I hated sororities my freshman year. i thought they were stuck up prissy biznitchs and couldnt get a date without a "frat" boy on their arm.
I went through rush hoping my roommate would join. the girls I met during that time were not the kind of girls that were socially inept... these were smart, sweet, funny women that were looking for a place that was a home away from home, or looking for a group to get more involved. Some people join the student activites committees, some people join an intramural team, some people join fraternities and sororities and get the best of all this and more. You have the ability to get involved more, to learn more about yourself, your strengths, your weaknesses... etc...

You can learn all of this,of course, without joining a greek org, but some people choose to. Why look down upon them for that?

My take on your roomie situation is she joined a sorority, became extremely involved and chose to follow that route instead of getting closer to her roommates and doing other activities. If she was happy, why do you care? Why begrduge someone happiness, when it doesn't hurt you? It may have hurt your feelings because she chose other people before you, but if you didn't know her before you got there what did you lose?

And what could you have gained by being more open minded? You could have asked her why SHE chose to rush, and why she enjoyed it. Instead you come online and ask a group of pro-greek men and women to explain themselves.

My answer to you is
I joined a sorority and it is none of your damn business why, or what I gained.... but I know what you missed by being narrow minded and closed to learning.

College is an educational experience that doesn't just apply to the classroom.

Imagine that, Ebay does! Well, he couldhave worked a train wreck!


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Is that TrollQuan or TrollQuisha? :D

I think it is time to bring out the cans again...
http://www.jonessoda.com/gifs4/whoopcans.jpg

Sister, pass the Tanqueray.

Beer & Wings
 

Ah, great way to start the weekend. I've got my beach chair, a cooler full of beer, a bucket of wings (medium-spicy) and this thread.

LOL.....good one.

I have to agree with what's already been said, except for one thing that was said and confuses me.....

Since when was men and sex a college thing??????? :D LOL I know guys in their 30's who act the same way.

Pulling out a Hefeweizen and the tanning lotion. Gonna be a good day for getting a tan........

Whenever people like this come about, I don't bother being snarky. I just head down here for the food.

Mel, any Hefeweizen left?

Let Happy Hour begin!!!!!! Who's making the drinks?

It is totally terrible how all of you are treating this "greencup" girl!:mad:

She has no true knowledge of what goes on in a Greek Organization!:(

I think Sikes link says lots.

I guess it does not mean anything that We Buy our Friends to some.:(

Must not mean anything to partivcpate in Home Coming as opposed to standing on the sidewalk watching, doing monthly Alum Gatherings with Brothers/Sisters that we bought 5-10-30 years ago.

Just it cost a little bit more to buy your Friends? Hello, yes, and is worth every damn sheckle of it.:p

Will you go back to your alma mater upon graduation and bask in the glorie of your scholl, or do as we do, go back to be with our purchased friends? Basically I would compare Buying My Friends to a Fire sale, it is worth every penny It Cost Me!:cool:

greencup, do you realize how well some of on GC know each other?

Do you realize, that while some of us have not met but talked to each other via phone or helped each other out because We Are Greeks? It may be a different Affiliation but, We try to help each other out!:)

That is what being a Greek Affiliate is all about, not the amount of money!

I suggest you try it, there are many on here who AI after Graduation, check Alum Thread and see some of the Happy People!:D

greencup, are you still around or leave?

Re: what's so great about the greeks?
 

Because people change. Change is part of our personal growth. Many things in life change and people move on and people move apart and that's not anything new.

I would honestly suggest that you try to get to know some people that are in a GLO because you seem to have a one-sided view of things right now. Of course not all of them are going to be peachy people but that's the same for people that aren't greek as well.

I didn't buy my friends, I bought a brotherhood. (I don't expect you to understand this because you haven't experienced what I have.) That brotherhood will remain with me for the rest of my life.

I'm with Tom on this one.

Possibility a) The post was (deliberate) flamebait.

Possibility b) Someone's had limited exposure to greek life, it's as much a newsflash to everyone as the news "Water's wet!" that there are negative portrayals of greek life out there. So, it's not surprising someone comes across them and wonders how much truth they carry. Or, they may've had negative experiences and wonder how widespread such experiences are.

A bunch of people gave greencup the benefit of the doubt (i.e. that it just might be b) ) e.g. SiKeS UNLESS and UNTIL the originating poster proves otherwise. Which is cool.

Assuming it isn't a), then a question of "It seems crazy, what's the point of going greek?" is NOT the most unlikely response in the world from someone to some of the negativity, urban legends and general crap out there about fraternities and sororities. :)

Having fun is good but turning someone off of Greek life (originating poster or people who read this thread otherwise)... is a risk. Never know who's opinions could be swayed by stuff.

I remember one thread by someone in Ireland I think, who was off to the States the next year or something, asked something like "What's the point, isn't it all some big cult w/hazing etc?"/. S/he got some helpful replies etc and changed her mind and decided s/he wanted to rush when s/he went to college in the States.

All right enough rambling, I don't know the originating poster one way or the other but I'm with Tom and a buncha others on not assuming troll when I dunno either way. :)

eta: I started writing before Damasa's post, too. Who also made good points. I know all this was ramble-y but I'm thinking about the weekend.

That is fabulous...I'll have to remember that the next time someone those that old line in my face! :p