Is Fox less biased than any other news source?
 

:) Perhaps there is an actual study out and Rudey knows the answer. Does anyone else know?

-Rudey

Re: Is Fox less biased than any other news source?
 

If there was a study done, who might have done it?

This article was by Robert Barro. He is a really smart Economist at Harvard and tha author of my macroeconomics text we used in college (our professor was cited in there several times so we suspect collaboration on textbook profits).

The study finds that Fox is definitely biased and conservatively biased. More importantly, however, it finds that is is less biased than many other liberal media outlets. To read more and see how your favorite publications and programs measure up, you can read the original Businessweek article at: Businessweek.com or you can search the web for reprints of it (here is one )

-Rudey

Interesting read. The study really focuses on just one aspect -- and I'm not too sure how reliable that aspect is as an indicator. If I were going to attack the study, that's where I'd do it. However, the results sounded about right. Based on what I know about the various organizations listed in the study, the results seemed to be just about dead-on.

My advice to you: be skeptical.

Fox news is HORRIBLE!

You are HORRIBLE.

-Rudey

If I understand the methodology of this, it seems to me that when the "standard" that all of these organizations are judged by is the US Congress -- which at this point at least is already "right" of center, that the outcome is going to favor "conservative" organizations who will have an advantage (at least in perception) since that standard is already several points in their direction.

On the other hand, I don't know how you really define where the "center" is.

I wonder if the author is himself on the conservative side?

As the old line goes, "Figures lie and liars figure."

I love you too!!! ((((((Rudey))))))

Can we just say that all news broadcasters are biased in some way. It's simply being human. But Fox is inaccurate and getting a little too trendy for my blood. That's why I don't like them.

Do you not read??

The study analysed news sources for their bias. What was your point on saying all new sources are biased? Of course. Thanks for stating the obvious. The study measured how much. A little inaccurate? A little trendy?? Yeah OK.

-Rudey

Actually you don't understand the methodology. The study isn't about who is in Congress right now.

-Rudey

They're slightly right of center. I think the article put them at a 39 -- but Ted Kennedy for example based on his record is an 80.

Business Week is kind of like the Conservative answer to Time Magazine. I do think that Fox has gone of the deep end when it comes to covering completely innane things -- like the damned Laci Peterson trial -- I mean seriously, WHO CARES?

I do enjoy watching a few of their shows though.

I think there is a better way to measure bias than what they chose though. Look at what stations and newspapers cover and then consider where they put it in their publications/shows. For example, the NYT has run that Abu Graib stuff on the page for the last 20-something days. That might get them liberal points.

If you've ever watched a CNN package on gay marriage, you'll note that about 75% of the story tells the story of how happy certain gay people are while there is 25% (usually at the end after the story has already made every attempt to establish this as something positive in peoples' minds) where some conservative is decrying the decay of society -- they usually drive to the nearest Christian church, get a clergyman and just go with whatever. I've seen Fox do the same thing on conservative issues.

I'm glad you have chosen to define what are conservative topics and liberal topics.

-Rudey

Well, if you're gonna get nasty then, yes, Fox news is heavily biased since it's loaded down with white (93%) conservative (65%) Republican (89%) men (91%).

Yeah. Perhaps I shouldn't considered an authority on that. However, I think a consensus could be reached. I'm not saying the study was bad, it's just I think it's pretty open to criticism in certain areas and maybe there would be a better way of determining things like this.

It's hard to determine what are conservative and liberal topics because, really, neither party is very conservative or liberal these days. Perhaps a better measure would be "Republican" and "Democrat" issues?

You're biased because you got knocked in the head (100%). Now I got nasty.

-Rudey

I have studies on biases in reporting on specific events in the news. For example showing victims on one side over the other, using words like militants over terrorists, etc. It's easier to do that type of a study on a specific topic, you know?

-Rudey

You're an odd one. You post for people to reply and then you come with something like this.

The truth is that I think FOX News has taken enough flak that, while they still fall far on the "right," they have become somewhat more ballanced in recent months.

They still have a highly "conservative" agenda, but at least are exploring other sides of stories -- even though I sometimes question their choice of opposition spokespersons and the treatment they sometimes receive.

Funny even after a study, people can't respond to it - all they do is come on and say "Fox is conservative". Well great, other news media is liberal. We're both right but I wouldn't doubt that they are less conservative than most other programs are liberal.

-Rudey

Well, that may well be. Maybe you should explain it for me. The Congress has been moving more "right" since the Regan days -- both Republicans and Democrats in many cases -- and the Members I saw rated in the article are contemporary.

Fox is pretty new in the overall scope of news organizations, so is it being compared to the political leanings of MC's who are not it's contemporaries?

I'm sure there are tons of studies out there. And without even looking at them, I can guess that they probably all say about the same thing about organizations like FOX, CNN and the NYT.

My dearest darlling Rudith, you're actually right. My professor did a study on this (hasn't been published yet, I don't think) that used a different methodology, and found that they were all biased, FOX just uses words with stronger connotations and thus appears to display more bias.

I went one step further for you. Here is the study in full: http://www.stanford.edu/~wacziarg/me...closeMilyo.pdf Read it. That way you can read it in full. It breaks down the bias in different categories as well.

-Rudey

Umm Rudey said Fox displays less bias than other news sources. Keep on hating.

-Rudey

Thanks. I'll read it when I have a chance.

I was saying that FOX APPEARS to have more bias, but the actually do not - it's just that Fox will label Ted Kennedy as "liberal" or more likely "left-wing" rather than "Democratic." I think CBS was actually shown to be the most biased in our study.

Rupe Biased? They Report, You Decide
Rush & Malloy
New York Daily News
Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel likes to say that it is "fair and balanced." But four people who used to work for the channel said Monday that executives directed them to slant their coverage to the mogul's conservative liking.

At a press conference at the Ritz-Carlton, Murdoch's former employees - Fox News terrorism expert Larry Johnson, Fox News Washington reporter Alexander Kippen, Fox News booker Clara Frenk and Fox News freelance writer David Korb - stood with Robert Greenwald, the director of "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism," a documentary on FNC that screens tonight at the New School University downtown.

Johnson said his appearances on Fox News ceased last year when he questioned the war in Iraq. "They never asked me back again," Johnson told The News' Brian Harmon.

Korb said he received orders to "make protesters look stupid and use footage of small crowds where the protesters look like pot-smoking liberals."

For his film, Greenwald obtained internal FNC memos in which execs order newswriters to describe events in a Republican-friendly way.

A Fox spokeswoman released a statement at the press conference that called the four ex-staffer's concerns "hardly worth addressing," adding that "some left due to incompetence."

Elsewhere, a former New York Post reporter claimed that Murdoch tried to dictate his stories on the media.

In a posting on Jim Romenesko's media Web site, Dan Cox said that when he was the Post's media reporter in 2002, "barely a day went by when Murdoch didn't force-feed items about his rival media moguls ...

"Not only were we not allowed to ask Murdoch any specific questions about these 'tips,' we were not allowed to check their veracity - anywhere."

Cox added, "Murdoch expected us to use them wholesale, unattributed, of course."

That echoes accounts of last week's Post "exclusive" flub on Sen. John Kerry's vice-presidential choice - which also ran without a byline.

The Post is a tabloid. It's never made any gesture to hide it.

The rest of the material: At the end of the day it's all accusations, made only by 4 people out of a large network, made by people who also are promoting a documentary, and doesn't compare to an actual study with statistical measures.

-Rudey

I dont make any excuses for any news channel, but FNC is a piece of work....a trash news channel just like the National Inquirer is a trash newspaper.
Have a nice day :)

Oh I see you really don't have anything to say other than an insult that is unfounded.

-Rudey
--Nice day had by all

unlike your posts? You were quite nasty to people who were simply attempting to make a point, but apparently the only opinions that matter are those of the people who are partial to Fox News Channel and all of its biased political drivel.

not that this surprises me....just look at the gem I found in your profile: "I don't talk to you unless you make a LOT of money and went to a good school. You better wear your collars up and know how to sail."

sounds like a Bush worshipping, blue blooded, good old boy to me!

Here we go again. Truth is, yes I am better than you. But it wasn't all handed to me. Well, it could have been but it wasn't. I mean the fencing teams when I was but a boy in high school and the sailing I took on more in college did put me in a much more...how shall I put this...well honey let's just say I didn't have to kiss many farmer's daughters with calloused lips. But so what. I make my own money...lots of it. I went to a good school...perhaps academic mediocrity wasn't in my "blue blood".

Ooooooh dear talking about political drivel except you have no proof. I do. You are on shaky ground. I guess the good education I received because I was a "good ol' [no need for a "d" honey] boy lets me think. These aren't about opinions. I don't care for your John Deere clothing wearing opinions. I like facts.

-Rudey
--And I always rock the popped collar.

Wow class-based bigotry raises it’s ugly head…

Class based prejudice, bigotry, belittling and jealousy are examples of “class-ist” attitudes. Examples of “class-ist” beliefs are class stereotypes, the belief that some people’s socio-economic background are better people than others.

See it’s wrong to judge a person on their socio-economic background, just as it’s wrong to judge a person based on their current socio-economic status… it’s about as stupid as basing your judgement of someone based on their “race”, religion, or sexual orientation…. In other words it doesn’t matter if your rich or poor, an a**hole is an a**hole no matter what their wealth.

Obviously, you're not better than me, your insistence upon describing your priviledged background is proof...I'm not the one on shaky ground. I am proud of who I am and do not find it necessary to expound upon my financial background or educational prowess. However, I do find your posts caustic and myopic in scope. That's why I'm going to put my ignore button to work. Seek peace, Rudey...try and become a little more open minded :)

Big words. Stick to the subject at hand. Have nothing to add? Didn't read the study? So you can't understand what I posted? Go ride on a tractor and eat in your daddy's barn while I wear my blazer and captain's hat with my collar up while I sail.

-Rudey

got Ritalin? You need it.....calm down, yachtboy.

So because I'm an immigrant I do drugs? You're such a bigot.

-Rudey

Ritalin is a prescription drug, not usually associated with users. You're an immigrant? WHO KNEW?


...I hope you're legal. :p