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Desperate Clinton Upset About Not Speaking at Reagan Funeral
Former President and Cigar-enthusiast Bill Clinton is apparently angry that he was not invited to speak at the late, great President Reagan's Funeral. Well guess what Bill? This one is NOT ABOUT YOU!!! This is not a photo-opt, even though so many of your democrat friends will use it as one; this is a FUNERAL!
I think Clinton is just angry and desperate that he will always be remembered for his scandals, not his politics, and he is looking for anyway he can to save-face and look good to the public. This funeral has been planned long before Reagan died, and it is not a "partisan" event because Clinton was not invited to speak. Clinton was not invited to speak because he is not a sitting president, and the family of the late Reagan DOES NOT WANT Clinton to speak at the funeral. It's the family's choice! Clinton, like many democrats either hated or strongly disliked President Reagan, and he should be lucky he even gets to go to the funeral. Furthermore, all of the speakers who have been asked to speak, were very close to Reagan, and have legitimate reasons to speak. Margaret Thatcher considered Reagan one of her closest political allies and friends. The former Prime Minister of Canada also considered Reagan a friend and confidant. It's obvious why George H.W. Bush is speaking-- because he was Reagan's Vice President!!! And George W. Bush is speaking because he is the current sitting President. Clinton needs to grow up and realize that the world doesn't revolve around him, and has no legitimate reasons to speak. And to imply that this is a partisan event is ludacrist. XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE JUNE 08, 2004 11:02:52 ET XXXXX CLINTON DISAPPOINTMENT: LEFT OFF FUNERAL SPEAKERS LIST Former President Bill Clinton has privately expressed anger he has apparently been left off the speakers list of Friday's Reagan State Funeral, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. "President Clinton really held out all hope the funeral would be a nonpartisan event, like Nixon's was," a top Clinton source said on Tuesday morning. "He's angry and disappointed neither he nor President Carter have been asked to speak, as of yet." The top source says Clinton has been critical that both Bush presidents will address the crowd gathered at National Cathedral. Nixon's vice president Gerald Ford did not speak at Nixon's funeral. Clinton's inner circle is convinced Nancy Reagan has personally shut out Clinton from any high-profile participation. "It is a state funeral, using tax dollars," the top Clinton insider explained. Former President George H.W. Bush, former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney will join President Bush in eulogizing Ronald Reagan, Reagan's office announced. Presiding over the service will be former Sen. John Danforth of Missouri, who is an ordained Episcopal priest. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and the Rabbi Harold Kusher will give readings, while Irish tenor Ronan Tynan will sing. The eulogy is being prepared by President Bush's chief speechwriter, Michael Gerson, who also wrote the president's moving speech for a memorial service in the same cathedral after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. |
if you're going to get all worked up over people criticizing Reagan, then i don't think it's all that wise of you to criticize other presidents.
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Lol and this came from the Drudge report as well. Thats almost like getting a scoop from Rush's site.
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Poor guy. But look on the bright side for him. He's getting all this free pub because of his bellyaching. To force yourself in (or even try to) in order to speak at someone's funeral is just plain wrong.
Bill needs to check his ego. |
There's no reason for Clinton to speak. He wasn't a personal friend of Reagan as the Bush presidents were.
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It amazes me that so many of you are so terribly partisan, and often with little experience with life and the political process. It's not the party, it's the issue. |
If this is true, Clinton's being absolutely ridiculous. I would say the same if it was the other way around and Bush the Elder was pitching a bitch about not speaking at Clinton's funeral.
And Nixon's funeral was a WHOLE different story than Reagan's, so I wouldn't even go there. I don't think he was particularly close to Ford, and he (Ford) might have made the decision not to speak himself. |
Clinton is an ego maniac. This is a funeral people, not a partisan event, baby kissing, hand shaking photo op. Clinton didn't even like Reagan-at all-why did he even attentd? Oh wait....photographers may be there.....:rolleyes:
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Clinton is just pouty because Reagan's death is taking some press attention away from his new book.
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Why does Clinton care? He's busy leading the black community from his Harlem office and that night he's having a fundraiser for the community.
-Rudey --No he's just riding on their backs. |
even though this info is from drudge, i'll bite b/c it wouldn't surprise me if clinton was acting this way.
he needs to cool his jets. if the statement that Mrs. Reagan has something to do directly with him not speaking, then he needs to respect that. when it comes down to it, the ppl that watch this funeral and are moved by it aren't going to want to see clinton either. this brings to mind something jay leno showed on the tonight show a few years back (when clinton was President). i forget whose funeral he was at, but there was a clip (a real one) where he was walking out of the church with 2 other gentlemen and he was laughing and carrying on, but as soon as he saw the camera on him, he changed his look to this melodramatic sad crying face.......it was amusing. :rolleyes: |
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The Nixon funeral was apparently "non-partisan" because Clinton spoke (as all sitting Presidents have done before him), He's not in office now, He has no reason to speak.
If Nancy Reagan wants to have a purple dinosaur give the eulogy - it's up to her, b/c Reagan was.............you guessed it...............HER Husband. |
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He works out of Harlem? I thought I remembered reading that Clinton took offices in some post midtown office building after he left office? |
Okay, I will agree that Drudge is not the most credible, but that's just the first thing that popped up when I was trying to get an internet artical about the funeral. I've heard from several other credible newsources like Sean Hannity, and fox news, that Clinton is angry about not being asked to speak at the funeral. Of course he is! He's got a book coming out, and his wife wants to be President, and his only legacy is sexual acts with at fat chick in the oval office.
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-Rudey --But their house in Westchester I hear is nice. |
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Best Buds? And yes it's just a joke I am not saying they were ever friends. |
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Pike,
Have you ever voted in a presidential election? I thought so. |
Why do I doubt the veracity of this story?
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You know, I don't know why there is so much animosity in these discussions.
I caught a part of George H.W. and Barbara Bush on Larry King last night and he was saying what a nice conversation he, George W. and Bill Clinton had at the opening of the World War II Memorial recently. They just talked about general stuff and some old anecdotes. Former Presidents of the United States are perhaps the smallest "fraternity" in the world -- and they always seem to value each other views and advice -- no matter which party they represent. That is especially true in times of crisis. All of the rhetoric during the campaigns is pretty much that. Don't you ever wonder why, as soon as the election is over, usually everyone congratulates everyone else and the Republic goes on? It's because, in the end, we're a whole lot more alike than different. Finally, to end my little tirade, I find it disgusting that even the death of a great leader becomes grounds for attacking other leaders and contenders. I think that dilutes all of the good things and memories of the deceased. For people like Drudge, Limbaugh, and the "liberal" guy (Rall(?), I've never even heard of him) are comtemptable for using this occassion for either political purposes -- or to simply advance their own agenda. |
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So, out of curiousity, where else has anyone seen this alleged story? I haven't seen it anywhere, and it isn't on Drudge's page today.
As near as I can tell, this guy is full of...half truths and innuendo. With the exception of Monica, what other success has he had? Enlighten me. This is a joke. |
DA - are you inquiring about the Clinton video where he switches from laughter to tears when he see's there are cameras present at the funeral?
That was at Ron Brown's funeral - his cabinet member or assistant cabinet member killed in the plane crash in Yugoslavia... I've seen it. It's real. You're right - too many people trying to make political hay during a funeral is disgraceful - most of all was Rall's comments. I would simply ask him if a close relative of his died, would he want to have to endure hate-filled speech about his relative while preparing for the funeral? First Amendment concerns aside, there is the notion of respect and dignity for a family mourning, and it appears to be less and less a concern for people. That is discouraging. |
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Was Clinton nodding off during the funeral?? There were a couple of times where the camera panned to him and he looked asleep. I taped it for my roommate, so I'll have to check it out again when she watches it, but it really looked like it!
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Thank goodness!!!!!!! i am not the only one who thought so too. everytime they panned him he looked like he was sleeping. Prince Charles looked like from time to time he was too
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My mom watched it and she said that it did look like Clinton and Prince Charles were sleeping....how rude. Anyway, I think it was a beautiful funeral. One thing that made me mad today was a moronic girl in my class was complaining that Reagan was overshadowing Ray Charles' death. That may be but he was The President! I think there is a little difference there. :rolleyes: Oh well enough complaining.
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I saw President Clinton nodding off. Not quite napping, but not alert and attentive. Perhaps he was deep in prayer.
The woman sitting beside Chief Justice Rehnquist looked like she was at a club waving and making 'call me' hand signals to someone. |
I didn't get to see all of the funeral today, but I did see some parts where Clinton nodding off!!! I had to ask my father to see if I wasn't just imagining that he was dozing. I'm glad to know that others noticed that too! I am NOT a Clinton lover (quite the opposite) but I am ALMOST embarassed for him. Come on, you know the funeral is going to last a long time and might be dull at times, drink some coffee or expresso before hand!!
Oh yeah, I saw the "call me" woman too. Is nothing sacred anymore? Please, this was a funeral of a former president and it was televised!! |
Saw both Clinton and Prince Charles shots in question.
They may have been nodding off, but in fairness there are times when I want to remember something, concentrate on it or get a mental picture I close my eyes. I didn't notice either of their heads dropping or dipping. Who knows? Is this going to be the next great political debate on GC? |
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