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chideltjen 06-02-2004 11:45 AM

Harry Potter Speculation
 
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Originally posted by TigerLilly
Is there a thread about questioning what we think will happen in books 6 and 7? There should be...
There is now. :D

This is a thread for how the series will end in the next two books. Discuss!

(I apologize for yet another thread about this kid, but that way people who haven't read them all can avoid spoilers.)

carnation 06-02-2004 12:38 PM

No clue why, but my husband and I want Snape to turn out to be a good guy.

Lady Pi Phi 06-02-2004 12:40 PM

I think Snape really is a good guy. He's just a little bitter.

Lady Pi Phi 06-02-2004 01:23 PM

I'm re-reading PoA and I can't help but think that Professor Trelawney might actually be right in a prediciton of her's in the 6th or 7th book.

dzandiloo 06-02-2004 02:06 PM

OK: Here's a soap opera stretch:

Harry becomes more & more disillusioned about things he finds out about James Potter, truth is that James & Lily hated each other and in the end, it turns out that Snape is actually Harry's father. Heee.

I know. This isn't Star Wars...just a funny thought. I think there is more of a connection b/t Harry & Snape than we realize...just don't know what it is yet.

HBADPi 06-02-2004 02:13 PM

I cant find the link but over the weekend there was an article on yahoo about how J K Rowling had said there is a good chance Harry might die by the end of the series. She said something about how the only way she sees Valdenmort dying is if Harry dies. She also mentioned how she knew this would upset a lot of fans and that it wasnt a definite thing. Wish I could find that link...

chideltjen 06-02-2004 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by HBADPi
I cant find the link but over the weekend there was an article on yahoo about how J K Rowling had said there is a good chance Harry might die by the end of the series. She said something about how the only way she sees Valdenmort dying is if Harry dies. She also mentioned how she knew this would upset a lot of fans and that it wasnt a definite thing. Wish I could find that link...
I had heard that Daniel Radcliff said that he thought Harry would die in the end. But not from Rowling herself.

Or here's a stretch for ya:
So I remember in the 5th book that Nelville and Harry have a connection... their birthday is the same, right? And I remember reading (vaguely) that Voldemort is on the opposite end of someone with that birthday or something. Voldy will automatically assume it's Harry because of his downfall, but what if Voldy has the wrong guy? Maybe the other all powerful hero is actually Nelville. And somehow this is played up in the 7th book, Nelville is killed with Voldemort and Harry survives in guilt. (Whew... way too much time on my hands...)

Or Nelville pulls a Peter Pettigrew...

carnation 06-02-2004 04:43 PM

I also hope that Crookshanks turns out to be an Animagus--maybe somebody that everyone else thought was dead.

SSS1365 06-02-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by carnation
I also hope that Crookshanks turns out to be an Animagus--maybe somebody that everyone else thought was dead.
I could see that happening... He could turn out to be a good guy, which would explain why he chased Scabbers.

DolphinChicaDDD 06-02-2004 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by carnation
I also hope that Crookshanks turns out to be an Animagus--maybe somebody that everyone else thought was dead.
Nope. On JK's offical site (www.jkrowling.com if you have a spare moment, go there it is so faboulous!!) she says that Crookshanks is half Kneazle. To find out what a Kneazle is, you have to read the book "Care of Magical Creatures". The money goes to chartiy, so she won't say what a Kneazel actually is, but I suppose it is somewhere on the internet.

Seriously though, go to her website if you have a free minute. There are little extas hidden....like, the cell phone is there for more than just decoration....;)

Lady Pi Phi 06-02-2004 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
Nope. On JK's offical site (www.jkrowling.com if you have a spare moment, go there it is so faboulous!!) she says that Crookshanks is half Kneazle. To find out what a Kneazle is, you have to read the book "Care of Magical Creatures". The money goes to chartiy, so she won't say what a Kneazel actually is, but I suppose it is somewhere on the internet.

Seriously though, go to her website if you have a free minute. There are little extas hidden....like, the cell phone is there for more than just decoration....;)

"Care of Magical Creatures"? I've neaver heard of this book. I should pick it up?

What charity does it go to?

ms_gwyn 06-02-2004 05:56 PM

I know that Crookshanks is not an animagus.....he is part...kneanzle? or something like that...its in FB, JK confirms this on her website. He is definately a good guy, just not human...and of couse the whole Pettrigrew incident (PoA).


I don't think Harry will die but come very close to, in the prophecy it states that only will live and the other will die and they are the only ones who will be able to kill the other.

Trelawney's prophecy in PoA comes true in GOF, if I remember correctly. I'm currently rereading OoTP and can't find PoA at the moment, did find CoS (my least favorite book)

Lady Pi Phi 06-02-2004 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by ms_gwyn
I know that Crookshanks is not an animagus.....he is part...kneanzle? or something like that...its in FB, JK confirms this on her website. He is definately a good guy, just not human...and of couse the whole Pettrigrew incident (PoA).


I don't think Harry will die but come very close to, in the prophecy it states that only will live and the other will die and they are the only ones who will be able to kill the other.

Trelawney's prophecy in PoA comes true in GOF, if I remember correctly. I'm currently rereading OoTP and can't find PoA at the moment, did find CoS (my least favorite book)

See I have to re-read the books because I am ofrgetting a lot of things.

I'm almost done PoA and I started it last night.

SSS1365 06-02-2004 09:33 PM

Does anyone remember if they ever say what James' animal alter ego Prongs is?

polarpi 06-02-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by SSS1365
Does anyone remember if they ever say what James' animal alter ego Prongs is?
It's a stag....it's mentioned in the end of POA

Rio_Kohitsuji 06-02-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by dzandiloo
OK: Here's a soap opera stretch:

Harry becomes more & more disillusioned about things he finds out about James Potter, truth is that James & Lily hated each other and in the end, it turns out that Snape is actually Harry's father. Heee.

I know. This isn't Star Wars...just a funny thought. I think there is more of a connection b/t Harry & Snape than we realize...just don't know what it is yet.


Nah..Snape is too greasy....Lily couldn't have hald on long enough for anything to happen :p

SSS1365 06-02-2004 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by polarpi
It's a stag....it's mentioned in the end of POA
Oh yeah, thanks :) I'm an idiot. I'm only halfway through my re-read of PoA. Can you tell why I'm re-reading? ;)

polarpi 06-02-2004 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by SSS1365
Oh yeah, thanks :) I'm an idiot. I'm only halfway through my re-read of PoA. Can you tell why I'm re-reading? ;)
Absolutely...that's the only reason why I knew the answer :D

AOII*Azra-elle 06-03-2004 02:06 AM

I was watching the extras on the 2nd movie and I think someone mentioned that Harry dies in book 7. I don't think Black is actually dead in book 5, something in the way it happens and what is exactly told to Harry makes me think Black will show up in either of the last books. I hope so, it sucks that she killed him off for now. I think Snape is a good guy, maybe he just wants that Prof of Dark Arts too bad and is always bitter when he doesn't get it!

Lady Pi Phi 06-10-2004 02:47 PM

I'm re-reading book four and I just finished the chapter where Voldemort rises and explains a little history behind himself and his downfall.
Anyway, Voldemort says that his father was a muggle and he left him and his mother when Voldemort's father found out she was a witch. So I can understand why he hates muggles.
Now Lucius hates muggles and "mudbloods" so it makes me wonder if Malfoy knows that Voldemort is part muggle. Because I doubt Lucius would want to be a servant to a "mudblood".
If Malfoy doesn't know that Voldemort is part muggle, it makes me wonder if he won't turn on Voldemort in book 7.

chideltjen 06-10-2004 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I'm re-reading book four and I just finished the chapter where Voldemort rises and explains a little history behind himself and his downfall.
Anyway, Voldemort says that his father was a muggle and he left him and his mother when Voldemort's father found out she was a witch. So I can understand why he hates muggles.
Now Lucius hates muggles and "mudbloods" so it makes me wonder if Malfoy knows that Voldemort is part muggle. Because I doubt Lucius would want to be a servant to a "mudblood".
If Malfoy doesn't know that Voldemort is part muggle, it makes me wonder if he won't turn on Voldemort in book 7.

It's a good theory... but I remember reading something in the 5th book about how Harry discovered an old family tree in the house he was trapped in. I thought that Malfoy's family was listed on the family tree AND there was muggle blood that ran in the family. I am going to have to re-read everything, but I do remember them looking at a family tree. Or maybe it was Sirius'?

ISUKappa 06-10-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by chideltjen
It's a good theory... but I remember reading something in the 5th book about how Harry discovered an old family tree in the house he was trapped in. I thought that Malfoy's family was listed on the family tree AND there was muggle blood that ran in the family. I am going to have to re-read everything, but I do remember them looking at a family tree. Or maybe it was Sirius'?
It was Sirius' And half of the pictures of family members had been destroyed because they disgraced the Black name. He (Sirius) was cousins with Mrs. Malfoy, I believe.

ms_gwyn 06-10-2004 03:32 PM

Yes...Narcissa is a Sirius's cousin along with Bellatrix and Tonks' mother, they are all sisters.

I get the feeling that Voldie ol' boy has not told THAT many people that he is not "pure blood". He has issues... I mean it is a known fact that he is the last descendent of Salazar Slytherin a known pure blood advocate, he was in Slytherin House, his father left his mother-witch because of that fact, so that is whe he choose Harry as his equal since Harry is a "Half-Blood" himself (which I don't get, because both his parents were magical...I guess they are going off a Lily since she grew up Muggle...anyway) and not Neville who comes from a very strong Magical Family background.

I really think only a few people know that Voldie is not pure-blood like Dumbledore and Harry....if I remember the last scene of between Harry, Draco, Crabbe and Goyle...Harry's mentions that Voldie is not pure blood, it's implied that Draco, Crabbe and Goyle did not believe him and were attempting to jinx/hex him before McGonagall came through the door.

ADPiAkron 06-10-2004 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
Nope. On JK's offical site (www.jkrowling.com if you have a spare moment, go there it is so faboulous!!) she says that Crookshanks is half Kneazle. To find out what a Kneazle is, you have to read the book "Care of Magical Creatures". The money goes to chartiy, so she won't say what a Kneazel actually is, but I suppose it is somewhere on the internet.

Seriously though, go to her website if you have a free minute. There are little extas hidden....like, the cell phone is there for more than just decoration....;)

The book is called Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them....and the money goes to Comic Relief which helps poor children all over the world.

Lady Pi Phi 06-10-2004 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by ADPiAkron
The book is called Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them....and the money goes to Comic Relief which helps poor children all over the world.
I bought this book the other day.
I'm glad it goes to charity. As much as I love Ms. Rowling, she doesn't really need any more money ;)

ms_gwyn 06-10-2004 04:56 PM

Did you get the combination with Quidditch Through the Ages?


I was on the waiting list for these "side" books when the first came out.

polarpi 06-10-2004 06:12 PM

I was able to pick up the "side" books at Walmart a few years ago with no problem! Maybe since everything's become so desirable to Harry fans, it makes it difficult to find these anywhere? :confused:

Lady Pi Phi 06-11-2004 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by ms_gwyn
Did you get the combination with Quidditch Through the Ages?


I was on the waiting list for these "side" books when the first came out.

Yep, I bought that one too. They were sold seperately though.

DWAlphaGam 06-11-2004 10:37 AM

The Black Family Tree is posted on the Harry Potter Lexicon at:
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/bl...mily-tree.html

Sirius is related to Narcissa Malfoy (Draco's mother) and distantly related to the Weasleys.

breathesgelatin 06-11-2004 11:23 AM

ahhh, so many Harry Potter freaks!!! I am one, too.

Things I think may happen in Books 6/7:

--Dumbledore will die
--Ron and Hermione will date
--Neville may be the hero
--Luna Lovegood will play a key role in discovering what exactly has happened to Sirius Black
--More will be revealed about the relationship between Snape, James, and Lily

chideltjen 06-11-2004 12:57 PM

Can anyone give me a link to a list of quotes from the books? I get so lost on those sites, mainly because I don't have a lot of time to look thru everything. But if there is a page with quote on it, can you let me know? Thanks!

Lady Pi Phi 06-11-2004 01:10 PM

The quote in my sig came from mugglenet.com

DWAlphaGam 06-11-2004 01:37 PM

Has anyone figured out the riddles on jkrowling.com? If so, care to share?

MysticCat 06-11-2004 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by HBADPi
I cant find the link but over the weekend there was an article on yahoo about how J K Rowling had said there is a good chance Harry might die by the end of the series. She said something about how the only way she sees Valdenmort dying is if Harry dies. She also mentioned how she knew this would upset a lot of fans and that it wasnt a definite thing. Wish I could find that link...
Any statement that "nothing is definite yet" doesn't sound very credible. JK Rowling has made it very clear (1) that she plotted out all 7 books before she started writing the first one, and (2) that she wrote the last chapter a long time ago. In an interview on Biography last week, she showed the notebook containing that chapter and said that knowing that she has the ending done helps her keep going with the writing. She has known all along exactly how it will all end, and she isn't telling. (The last chapter is kept locked up very securely.)

She did say in the interview that the last chapter will wrap up the story and let us know what happens with all of the character -- "at least those that survive. There will be more deaths."

My predictions:

-- Ron and Hermione will end up together and Hermione will go to the Ministry of Magic, perhaps as an Auror. Ron may follow his father (who I think could be killed) in the misuse of Muggle Artifacts Office.

-- Dumbledore will die; this will be tied up somehow in the death of you-know-who. I wonder if Hagrid may die as well.

-- Harry will join the faculty of Hogwarts, becoming the first Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher to last more than one year.

-- As someone said, Snape is a good guy, but is bitter. Some resolution will have to come of that.

chideltjen 06-11-2004 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81

-- Harry will join the faculty of Hogwarts, becoming the first Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher to last more than one year.

I have always thought that could be probable. And we all know how Snape would feel about that. (Unless their relationship changes dramatically.)

-or for another stretch-

Harry becomes headmaster... (yeah that's a long shot, but you never know...)

breathesgelatin 06-11-2004 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
Has anyone figured out the riddles on jkrowling.com? If so, care to share?
I know how to answer the riddles or get the "easter eggs" as they call it... I'm going to enter down a bit in case someone wants to figure it out for themselves


















---On the mainpage, use the cellphone to dial in "MAGIC" alphanumerically as you would on a phone pad. Press send. You'll get the first easter egg.
--Go to "Extra Stuff". Use the eraser to reveal the message on the white piece of paper. It shows you four objects to find around the site. Click on all of them and you get the second easter egg.
--Go to "Fan Sites". On the shelf, there are two medals with question marks on them. Place them in their cases, and you get the third easter egg.
--Go to "Links". Push the book with the question mark on it to the left and there is a key behind it. Use the key to unlock the box on the table. It will give a clicky bubble--the fourth and as yet final easter egg on the page.

Currently, there is nothing behind the mysterious door and no way to get behind it. Someone hacked the site and found an empty room with a book with some practice text on it. Nothing cool as yet. And you can no longer hack the site! :)

breathesgelatin 06-11-2004 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
Any statement that "nothing is definite yet" doesn't sound very credible. JK Rowling has made it very clear (1) that she plotted out all 7 books before she started writing the first one, and (2) that she wrote the last chapter a long time ago. In an interview on Biography last week, she showed the notebook containing that chapter and said that knowing that she has the ending done helps her keep going with the writing. She has known all along exactly how it will all end, and she isn't telling. (The last chapter is kept locked up very securely.)

Yes, but this doesn't mean she doesn't edit as she go. She changed the entire course of GoF midway through writing it. I think that she has general things planned, and some specific "this is how it ends" stuff ready--but I'm sure (like any good writer), she's going to edit some plot threads along the way.

Do you have a link to a transcript of that Biography interview??

Lady Pi Phi 06-11-2004 03:00 PM

I've seen that interview several times before.
It's not recent at all.

I do think she's probably edited a few things while writing the last books.

breathesgelatin 06-11-2004 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I've seen that interview several times before.
It's not recent at all.

Yes, the most recent thing I could find was an article in October 2003's Biography magazine about Rowling.

MysticCat, I've heard the whole "final chapter is already written" a kajillion times, and I've never seen proof of it. She did flash a notebook showing her original plans for all the Hogwarts students, but despite multiple fans searching the net for the "last chapter" reference, no one has ever been able to provide a link to that interview, though some swear they saw it. It's supposed to have appeared sometime in 2000, but the evidence hasn't been provided. It's kind of an urban legend. I know that she did appear in a Biography channel interview, but it's an older one. Did she flash the chapter in it? I'm really fascinated about this because it's kind of a holy grail of Potterdom.

Lady Pi Phi 06-11-2004 03:11 PM

I've seen the Biography interview with her and I do distinctly remember her holding up an envelope that I think contained the final chapter and her saying she used to keep it in her home but friends and family were so nosey and were always snooping for it, that she keeps it in another location now.
But, it could have possibly been just an outline for the final chapter.


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