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winneythepooh7 06-01-2004 07:15 AM

Is it better to be single or attached?
 
I am sure there are going to be some fun and interesting comments to this topic, especially from the "boys" LOL.

Munchkin03 06-01-2004 08:51 AM

I think it's better to be happy with yourself and your status. On one hand, it is nice to have a sig. other...you always have someone to go out with, and :ahem: stay IN with ;), but being single allows you to do things without worrying about another person. It's all about your station in life and what you want out of it.

winneythepooh7 06-01-2004 10:34 AM

You know I am so single now, and for the first time in what seems like years?! I think I've always had a boyfriend! It is kind of a really cool feeling to have absolutely no committments to anyone else. I like coming and going as I please and my only major responsibility now is taking care of my new puppy :) I've found that also now I am more pickier about who I want to be with. I think now that I am getting older, I have a lot higher standards and don't want to deal with stuff I would have overlooked before. My new motto is "What are you going to offer ME in the relationship?" and "If you don't have______, ______, and _________ (whatever standards those may be) don't bother me".

LeslieAGD 06-01-2004 11:25 AM

Looking back, it was good being single through most of high school and college. I got to figure out who I was and what I really wanted. Now that I'm out of school and attached, I really enjoy having a boyfriend. He's in the same profession and we enjoy similar things. It's wonderful to have that connection with someone (other than just your friends/family).

sigtau305 06-01-2004 01:44 PM

I have been single for the longest time, so it doesn't really bother me. It has allow me to go and take care of my business without any distractions. somewhere down the line, maybe I'll find that special one, but right now, I'm happy being single. :cool: :)

sugar and spice 06-01-2004 02:17 PM

After this weekend, I'm going to have to say that I very much enjoy being single and it would take a lot to get me into a relationship at this point in time. ;)

I think that ultimately it's better to be in a relationship, as long as it's with the right person. But there's a time and place for everything, and right now I just feel like it's so refreshing to only have to deal with me and my issues and not anybody else's.

SmartBlondeGPhB 06-01-2004 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
I think it's better to be happy with yourself and your status. On one hand, it is nice to have a sig. other...you always have someone to go out with, and :ahem: stay IN with ;), but being single allows you to do things without worrying about another person. It's all about your station in life and what you want out of it.
Agreed

MTSUGURL 06-01-2004 05:16 PM

Normally I'd say in a relationship, but I'm leaving in a week for camp and want to be purely single so I can focus on my work instead of a guy.

WCUgirl 06-01-2004 05:21 PM

Hmmm...

My perspective on marriage is this: while you've got more security (even though nothing is a guarantee), you give up freedom. It's a trade off.

Which is more important to you?

edited b/c of drama

decadence 06-01-2004 05:29 PM

You asking whether it's better to be alone or with someone?
Or whether it's better to be in a long term relationship with one person versus not?

sororitygirl2 06-01-2004 08:41 PM

I would say each has its merits at different points in your life and it is important to experience both to decide which is best for you in the long run. But for me right now - single and loving it! It's the first time I've been single in awhile, and I'm just realizing how much fun it can be.

AKA_Monet 06-01-2004 09:06 PM

Chris Rock's Immortal Words...
 
You can be married and boring...

OR

Single and lonely...

James 06-01-2004 09:10 PM

I think most people are so dysfunctional that it might not much matter.

You can either be single and pine away for a fantasy relationship.

OR

You can be withe your methadone like significant other. Where after the first flush of romance fades the most you can see is, well I am never lonely and I have dates for all major holidays :p

Luckily most people don't know that there might be something better.

polarpi 06-01-2004 09:27 PM

I actually got into this discussion this past weekend....:D

I think it all depends. Yes, I'd love to be in a relationship, because I think that each relationship teaches you something that you might not learn without having that connection with that person. However, being single has its benefits, too. My mindset right now is that I'd prefer being in a relationship, but it has to be with a person that I respect and who respects me as well.

*The guy I was talking about this with last weekend is of the mindset that it's always better to be single :p

AKA_Monet 06-01-2004 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
I think most people are so dysfunctional that it might not much matter.

You can either be single and pine away for a fantasy relationship.

OR

You can be withe your methadone like significant other. Where after the first flush of romance fades the most you can see is, well I am never lonely and I have dates for all major holidays :p

Luckily most people don't know that there might be something better.

You could be wishing for that special someone and sit at the Kiddie Table on major holidays...

OR

You can be wishing for that other special someone and sit at the Kiddie Table on major holidays...

Either way, single or married, you will be sitting at the kiddie table at your folks' house...

James 06-01-2004 09:29 PM

Do you guys think there is more pressure on women than men to be involved in a relationship? Why? And is that a good thing?

AKA_Monet 06-01-2004 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Do you guys think there is more pressure on women than men to be involved in a relationship? Why? And is that a good thing?
I think the pressure's about equal but at different times in men's and women's lives...

Younger women--say under 25ish, have some pressure, but not much...

Same with younger men.

But once that woman turns past 25, the pressure is ON!!! If it is not the Biological Clock Time Bomb, then it's "have you met a nice boy???"

For men that age, I do not see much pressure until after 32ish maybe... Definitely later mid to late 30's... Especially if homeboy is hangin' out at the club scene and is 40... Or if all his friends are married and he isn't--then his sexual preferences get questioned...

And if a woman is not married by 35ish, then whoa, do family and friends start to wonder what the HAYLE is wrong with her and HER sexual preferences get questioned...

Mind you, old folks don't question those who have been in F'ed up marriages or already have kids runnin' around... They question those who are trying to live a decent life, make the best choices and carefully decide who they WANT to spend the rest of their life with--before bringing children into the picture...

Why does it seem like it is better to FCUK up your life with some luser that steamrollers over you life and lose it (Jerry Springer style), than to never have loved??? :confused:

winneythepooh7 06-01-2004 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Do you guys think there is more pressure on women than men to be involved in a relationship? Why? And is that a good thing?
I think it depends with who you are talking with. Parents for the most part I think want us all to be attached and living happily ever after. However, I think this is an unrealistic goal nowadays and hopefully we come from a family that is supportive of us whatever our decision is, or whatever our life circumstances are. I think both guys and women have pressure on them to settle down, for example, I've dated guys whose moms' are like "I can't wait to have grandchildren". And I've also heard my mom and my friends' mom's say "you know with the amount of guys you date that never would have been acceptable in my day". Ultimately though, I think WE (whether male or female) put the pressure on ourselves to be involved. I think that there is an innateness in us to want to be involved. However in our society, guys are brought up culturally to become less attached and less "emotional" about relationships. I still think that guys can get hurt though even if they don't "show it" or "talk about it" like us females do. I also think that a lot of us have a time frame in our head of when we should be in a certain stage and relationship. I have this conversation with my pledge mom all the time, who happens to be a doctor. What we talk about is not that we necessarily want to be in a relationship, but we WONDER why it is so difficult to meet "quality" men since we are two single professional women. I don't think being pressured to be in a relationship is ever a good thing because it is always going to blow up in the end.

James 06-01-2004 10:29 PM

I think there is a lack of both quality men and women if I understand correctly how you are using the term.

I think though, its a lot more pronounced in a relationship if the man lacks certain relationship skills, because the man is generally considered the initiator in a relationship.

If he fails to hold up his side of the bargain its glaringly obvious.

I think if you are a pretty well adjusted male with decent relationship and verbal skills its very easy to have really good relationships with a high percentage of women.

Conversely, I think well-adjusted women with good relationship skills can find it harder to have a really good relationship with a lot of males because males really are expected to do a lot of stuff . . . that they don't do.

I think more woman settle than men because they have higher expectations.




Quote:

Originally posted by winneythepooh7
. I have this conversation with my pledge mom all the time, who happens to be a doctor. What we talk about is not that we necessarily want to be in a relationship, but we WONDER why it is so difficult to meet "quality" men since we are two single professional women. I don't think being pressured to be in a relationship is ever a good thing because it is always going to blow up in the end.

Peaches-n-Cream 06-01-2004 11:35 PM

Re: Chris Rock's Immortal Words...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
You can be married and boring...

OR

Single and lonely...

LOL! This is so funny and so true. Sometimes I think that Chris Rock is so much more than a comedian. :)

winneythepooh7 06-02-2004 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
I think there is a lack of both quality men and women if I understand correctly how you are using the term.

I think though, its a lot more pronounced in a relationship if the man lacks certain relationship skills, because the man is generally considered the initiator in a relationship.

If he fails to hold up his side of the bargain its glaringly obvious.

I think if you are a pretty well adjusted male with decent relationship and verbal skills its very easy to have really good relationships with a high percentage of women.

Conversely, I think well-adjusted women with good relationship skills can find it harder to have a really good relationship with a lot of males because males really are expected to do a lot of stuff . . . that they don't do.

I think more woman settle than men because they have higher expectations.



You've said some good stuff James. I think you are right too. Most of the guys I have dated have stated from the beginning "This is who I am, take me or leave me". Us women do have that annoying habit of thinking we can always change you all for the better :) As my Director always says "How many Social Workers does it take to change a lightbulb? NONE!!!! The light bulb has to want to change".

swissmiss04 06-02-2004 11:40 AM

It's always baffled me how older people (especially in my family) will always say to the younger ones "Have you met someone yet?" "Do you have a boyfriend/girlfriend?"and if you answer no they talk about how you might possibly be gay/lesbian. If you say yes, they seemingly do all they can to wreck the relationship. I swear once when I was 13 or so my mother gave me a lecture about how sexual experimentation isn't such a bad thing, as long as you're safe. Of course at that age I was like, "Um, right...." Fast forward to college....we were out to dinner one night and out of the blue my mom says "If I ever found out you were sleeping around I'd pull you out of college." :eek: Double bind communication much?! I think parental overinvolvement in their children's relationships is a huge mistake, especially if they are adults. It seems like no matter what I am, my mother makes me feel that the grass is greener.
How much do I owe now? Do you file w/ insurance? :p

winneythepooh7 06-02-2004 11:42 AM

hey swissmiss you just made me laugh cuz i understand where you are coming from. the best is when you go to weddings and you are placed at the "singles table".

WCUgirl 06-02-2004 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
I think more woman settle than men because they have higher expectations.
Agreed.

KSigkid 06-17-2004 11:01 AM

It's more important to be happy...period, end of story. If you're happy single, be single. If you're happy who you're with, be who you're with.

I was plenty happy single, and I'm extremely happy as someone's fiancee. It works both ways.

I will agree though, from what I've seen/heard, the pressure mounts on women to have a relationship more than it does for men.

This is only based on my experience coming from a large Italian family though.

damasa 06-17-2004 11:04 AM

Is it better to be single or attached? This post gets my vote for worst post ever.

Like other people have stated, it is much better to be happy no matter if you are single or not.

nucutiepie 06-17-2004 01:17 PM

I think it really depends on where you are in your life. I was constantly in relationships from just before my 16th birthday until i was about eighteen and a half. I'm now 20, and I haven't had a "boyfriend" since I broke up with the guy from when I was eighteen. I've dated plenty of guys, but I'm still so young that at this point in my life unless I meet someone really special, I'm not going to be in a relationship just because its the comfortable thing to do. I know I'm really young still, but in being single at this age I think I am really learning a lot about myself and who I am. I'm currently living abroad, and while the study program I am on is almost over I am goign backpacking for a month, mostly by myself. I KNOW that if I was in a relationship I wouldn't even have left the country, let alone travelled in foreign countries by myself, but honestly the experiences I have had out here have been amazing and really have helped me to "find myself", to use cheesy expressions.

Do I want to get married and have kids? Of course! My parents have been married 25 years and I pray I can have a marriage as strong as theirs is! But at this point in my life, it's better for me to be single and learning about myself - which is what your 20s are for anyway - then to be in a relationship. If I were suddenly to meet the right guy, my views might change, but regardless of what happened I am happy to have been single for two years now because of how much I have learned about myself.

winneythepooh7 06-17-2004 10:05 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by damasa
[B]Is it better to be single or attached? This post gets my vote for worst post ever.




I actually think this is an interesting topic. It gets everyone thinking. I agree that it depends on where you are in your life and who you are with. Too many people settle down though with the wrong person and for the wrong reason. And way too many people get attached way too quickly.

damasa 06-18-2004 12:29 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by winneythepooh7
[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by damasa
Is it better to be single or attached? This post gets my vote for worst post ever.




I actually think this is an interesting topic. It gets everyone thinking. I agree that it depends on where you are in your life and who you are with. Too many people settle down though with the wrong person and for the wrong reason. And way too many people get attached way too quickly.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. It didn't really make me think because almost everyone out there ends up "attached." Now not everyone does but most do. I also know a few people that have been single for years and liked it at first but now hate it.

Oh and there is nothing wrong with being attached and it's also sometimes ok to get "attached way too quickly" because sometimes people just know if another person is right for them or not.

Now let's talk about what we like about Arizona or something.

amycat412 06-18-2004 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
It's more important to be happy...period, end of story. If you're happy single, be single. If you're happy who you're with, be who you're with.

I was plenty happy single, and I'm extremely happy as someone's fiancee. It works both ways.


Touche.

And that's the basis of it-- you have to be HAPPY period. Happy with yourself will equal happy single and happy as a couple.

I was happy, albeit sometimes lonley, as a single. And I am happy in my relationship.

sairose 06-19-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
but my momz and sis always told me growin up to be SINGLE...and establish yourself before you get involved with anyone.

This is sooooo so true. You have to establish yourself and know what YOU want out of life before you can handle having someone else.

winneythepooh7 06-19-2004 12:20 PM

OK related to this thread what do you do if you have a friend that becomes so caught up in the first boy who gives her attention, even if he treats her like crap, she sees it, but doesn't do anything about it? It is obviously a self-esteem issue.............

Optimist Prime 06-19-2004 04:46 PM

In response to first post:

Single is fun because you can go out and hook up with whoever, be open to new posiblitites, be able to do things more spur of the moment, but, and I realized this last night, it gets old. Because what if you don't hook up with anyone cuz its a sausage fest and you have too much of the free tequila. It would have be nice to have to a girlfriend to hand me water and tell me it would be okay. Plus, I would make a great boyfriend.

kk_bama 06-21-2004 12:56 AM

James, I know you and I discussed this a few weeks back...

I have basically had a boyfriend since age 14. (I'm 21 now.) A couple shorter, more volatile relationships, then two serious, long-term relationships -- high school, then college -- the latter of which I am sitting in his room while he plays poker with the boys.

I've begun to question this. It's not that I'm unhappy with my current boyfriend, but I've been attached for an awfully long time. I'm also graduating next year and thinking about my long-term career goals.

Any thoughts?

Optimist Prime 06-21-2004 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kk_gphib_01
James, I know you and I discussed this a few weeks back...

I have basically had a boyfriend since age 14. (I'm 21 now.) A couple shorter, more volatile relationships, then two serious, long-term relationships -- high school, then college -- the latter of which I am sitting in his room while he plays poker with the boys.

I've begun to question this. It's not that I'm unhappy with my current boyfriend, but I've been attached for an awfully long time. I'm also graduating next year and thinking about my long-term career goals.

Any thoughts?

If you're tired of being attached cut the cord.

Lady Pi Phi 06-21-2004 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
If you're tired of being attached cut the cord.
I have to agree here. You're young and have plenty of time a head of you. If what you feel you need right now is some alone time to figure out the direction you want tot ake your life, then you should do that. There's no point on staying with him if you feel like he won't be part of your future.

kk_bama 06-21-2004 04:13 PM

Thanks. That definitely gives me more to think about....

James 06-21-2004 09:02 PM

I have a policy. I don't go out of my way to try and save people from themselves. It makes life less stressful for me and stops pissing off the person I am tempted to interfere with.

I will state my viewpoint though . . . but usually stop after they show themselves to be hopeless.

Quote:

Originally posted by winneythepooh7
OK related to this thread what do you do if you have a friend that becomes so caught up in the first boy who gives her attention, even if he treats her like crap, she sees it, but doesn't do anything about it? It is obviously a self-esteem issue.............

winneythepooh7 06-21-2004 09:51 PM

2 responses to the above posts:

21 is awfully young to be attached especially if you are having wonders about what else is out there which seems to be what you are doing.


To James: I like your insight. I can offer my opinion but they need to make their own decision.

James 06-21-2004 10:07 PM

Most importantly, you have to keep yourself from being emotionally invested in their choices.

You don't have enough control over them for that to be a good idea.

Quote:

Originally posted by winneythepooh7
2 responses to the above posts:

21 is awfully young to be attached especially if you are having wonders about what else is out there which seems to be what you are doing.


To James: I like your insight. I can offer my opinion but they need to make their own decision.



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