Shooting at TX Fraternity Event - One Killed
 

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I'm pretty sure its in the Risk Management forum because it has been associated to a fraternity event.

although, I doubt the fact that it was a fraternity even had anything to do with the shooting. It could have been any club, any where.

Ditto.

we don't currently have an active alpha phi alpha chapter at unt... so that's interesting that they're co-hosting events.

hmm that's weird, I thought we did? :confused:

University of North Texas NPHC

The school seems to be recognizing them.

thanks for the link preciousjeni

It really is a tragic event, but like most people said, I don't think the actual fraternity had anything to do with the shootings.. it unfortunately could have happened anywhere (Dallas was just named #1 with worst crime rate for 6th straight year.. at least that was also in the news)

I feel really bad for the families of the victims :(

Completely unrelated to the shootings, but I am glad the fire marshalls were enforcing an occupancy limit... parties/clubs could be dangerous if something were to go wrong and there were too many people in there to move :(

You know...a great PR event for the greeks down in Dallas would be to work with kids that are at a high risk of committing violent crimes when they become older.

Yes it would be lots of hard work and lots of time. But it would really show the community that you can band together and work for the betterment of that community.

Just a thought

yeah, they also recognize sigma tau gamma on the unt website, which has been gone for years, and there are other numerous errors with that website. if i remember correctly they still recognize SAE on there too, but they might not.
moral of the story: they don't update, and alpha and SAE were kicked off this year, which is prolly why they're still on there.

I knew that was going to happen, as soon as I read the article. Sounds like the org was totally doing what it needed to--they should not be held liable for the actions of unassociated people outside/removed from the event.... They had no duty to that poor boy-other than to make sure he didn't get in to the party & break the law. I feel for the his mother-she must be devastated, but I hope, for once, the fraternity is not held accountable for this kid being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Once again, this is the problem.

Not enough known and is blamed on Greeks whether right or wrong.:(

Or is this , " A, lets try to get Greek Organizations, They a have money"!:eek:

Quick Hijack:you're sure about that? Nationals still got their web link on the Active chapter roster section of their web site.

back to the subject:

It's very unfortunate but the chapter shouldn't be held liable because of what happened to the young kid.

Ditto.


Someone said it best earlier. The kid was only 16. He couldn't have even gotten into the party if it were only 10 people there. I don't understand why Alpha was even mentioned. It should have been "Boy killed in parking lot"

It seems as if the media is trying to give the appearance that A Phi A or Black Fraternity functions in general attract these types of activities. Also, if there is a curfew...that's a "whole 'nother story".

Although Alpha is clearly not liable, the damage has already been done by mentioning "Alpha Phi Alpha" and "teen killed" in the same breath.

HIJACK #5 or so...
positive. most of my sisters don't even know what i'm talking about when i mention them. never met any, and they're not involved with any greek events on campus, so i think its safe to say that they're gone.

lol, no, not at all. what i meant was no one knew of the fraternity at all, and had never even heard their letters. when i saw a link to their website on the unt site i was confused because we have a pretty small greek community, and most people know all of the chapters in the different councils, and i had never heard of them before, and the fact that sisters that pledged three years ago had never heard of them either made me think that they hadn't been around for awhile. i also asked some IFC guys about it, and they hadn't ever heard of them either.
its kind of weird all around.

hmmm I'm honestly not sure if they are still an active chapter or not... I'm on the same campus as lyrica9. I've heard of Alpha Phi Alpha before, and quite honestly I remember seeing a couple of Alphas wearing their Alpha Phi Alpha windbreakers back when the weather was cooler.

I am just not sure if they are still active because from what I've observed not many GLOs from NPHC or the MCGC participate in Greek events.

Paging Txsurfinwaves!!! Maybe she will know!

I'm here, I'm here.


I have also seen people wearing alpha phi alpha letters(on hats, shirts, and windbreakers)...so there is a definite possibility that they are an active chapter.

However, NT does not update their webpages on greeklife constantly- they still have rush registration info up for Fall 2003, and the reports for community service are a recent as 2001- and they do still have SAE listed.

I'm really not sure- I know that they did have a chapter at one point, but whether or not they are still active, ill have to find out.

ETA: Looking back at official university mail sent out to NT students, they did send an email in Jan. with the subject line of crime stats and hazing, and lists the following organizations being accused of hazing in the past 5 years:
Taken from my unt.edu account:
The law defines hazing as an intentional, knowing, or reckless act, occurring on or off the campus of an educational institution, by one person alone or acting with others, directed against a student, that endangers the mental or physical health or safety of a student for the purpose of pledging, being initiated into, affiliating with, holding office in, or maintaining membership in an organization whose members are or include students at an educational institution.

Over the past five years, the following organizations have been found responsible for hazing:

*Alpha Phi Alpha, Eta Epsilon Chapter - UNT
*Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity, Iota Zeta Zeta Chapter - UNT
*Sigma Alpha Epsilon Fraternity - Texas Kappa Chapter - UNT
*Sigma Lambda Beta Fraternity - Theta Beta Chapter - UNT
*Wings - UNT


However, this has been in the last few years- and two have already returned to campus- Sigma Lamda Beta and Lambda Chi Alpha.

So, they were found responsible for hazing in the past 5 years- whether they were kicked off is still up in the air.