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Has anyone read: The BAP Handbook?
I recently bought a copy of it, some of the information is a little funny. But there are a lot of good information about programs for childern as that mature (once i have a few) this information could be helpful.

If you have read this book: What type of BAP are you (if at all).

Do you know any Bogus BAPs (that's what the book calls them).

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Life Is Not a Dress Rehearsal

I haven't read the book, but I did see an article referring to it in Honey Magazine. They even had a quizlet on how to know if you're a BAP. I was a 5....so according to the authors I may be a BAP. It was a cute article. I'll probably peruse the book the next time I'm in Borders.

Okay, Ladies for us unelightened ones do you mind giving the meaning behind the acronym BAP. I will probably find out by Monday, because I willlook in my past editions of Honey but just in case I don't. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif Thanks

Black American Princess

I THINK IT MEANS BLACK AMERICAN PRINCESS

SORRY nikki25...I THINK WE WERE POSTING AT THE SAME TIME-LOL

Oh, like the movie BAPS W/ HALLE BERRY. I thought it pretained to something about parenting.

well it tells you how to be a BAPmom. How to raise a BAP.

Where is this article? I couldn't find it on www.honeymag.com, and it sounds interesting. Is it about BAPS as in the movie (ie, ghetto-fabulous), or the "Whitley Gilbert" type?

Just checking.

It's not about the movie, its's about the really live women. (the "Whitley Gilbert" type BAP.) They name several famous BAP.

The book also stresses that BAPs come in many different shapes, sizes, and hues. Being a BAP is all about the way you carry yourself.

It was the June/July 2001 issue of Honey. (I knew there was a reason I kept hundreds of old magaizines. Reference!) When I read about the survey and the book in Honey that's what made me interested in going to the book store to buy the book. They didn't have it in stock at my book store I had to order it.

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Life Is Not a Dress Rehearsal

I got the book today! It was ON TARGET. I saw myself in it, as well as most women I know. I'm probably either a "Betty" or a "Butterfly"...I'm from a small town, so I didn't have the same options as big-city BAPS have (like Jack & Jill). I know too many Bogus BAPS, not personally, but I've seen too many! I worked at a jewelry store for a few Christmases, and they came in droves to buy gold jewelry...on credit! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif I especially liked the list of famous BAPS.

This "Butterfly" is proud to say her name is on the acceptable names list as she waves her tube of MAC lipstick in the air http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

PS...Is it me or do the authors "borrow" a lot of the same information from "Our Kind of People?"

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That's all everyone is talking about . I see this is going to be a summer read. The 'Honey' article was to funny. Why did I have all the ladies at work taking the quiz. Did I find out that we have a lot of Bogus Baps up in there. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif .

I bought the book about three weeks ago and got one of my line sisters to do the same.
As for what kind of BAP I am, I'm an amalgamation. My personal style and manner's Betty. My background, since my dad wasn't a professional, is Butterfly. My occupation, a middle-class journalist, is Boho.

The thing I most disliked about Our Kind is its focus on materialism... In the snooty booty club you ain't nothing if your grandma's grandpa wasn't a millionaire. I'm first generation college via a single parent and proud of it. Does BAPS list Black designers. We (Black people) have dress makers, clothing designers, and Essence featured a Sister who makes her own makeup. Stop being consumate consumers - What has Prada ever done for my people? If Baps is bs about making other people richer it can stay on the shelf.

I just go the book at Walmart. I have to say it was funny. It is a little different than "our Kind of People". Because despite your background you can be a BAP, it is all attitude. So I guess I am a mix of Betty and Butterfly. Now I went to Clark, and boy oh boy did we have alot of Bogus running around that place.

I went to Boarders and bought the book the day it came out! I showed it to my line sister and she got it the next week. I am definitely a Butterfly. I don't understand how one can be both Betty & Butterfly- they are pretty much the same thing except raised differently. That would make me a Butterfly. If anything, I have a few traits of Boho (I act, hang out in the village because I think it's cool, I go to raves) but when people see me or meet me they think I'm a Betty. I'm not stuck up, I'm not rich I'm just drawn that way- In the words of Jessica Rabbit http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif Butterflies give off that Betty vibe but once you get to know them, you understand how real they are, that's what makes them a Butterfly.

I read the book a couple weeks ago. It was cute, I liked how it went from birth all the way to marriage. I am a butterfly/betty according to the book because my background is butterfly but my personality is betty. I don't consider myself a BAP, but I will admitt that I could relate to most of the things in the book. I couldn't call myself a BAP because I am not rich, yet http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif I agree with SunnySmile, there are a lot of bogus BAPS. I think a true BAP has the entire package- the attitude, look, ect.

Tonight's BET Tonight is about how to be a BAP. It's a woman on here (a psychologist) that is getting on my nerves. I'm sitting here trying to find out about BAPs, but she keeps butting in talking about how its setting Black women back and excluding some and setting unrealistic ideals. :rolling eyes: Please!!!! They have said God knows how many times that its not to be taken seriously!!! Anyways.....from what I have heard on the show from the author, I would be a "butterfly BAP". Watching this has finally made me actually want to go and get the book. I need something new to read anyway.

(I'm really frustrated right now and felt the need to vent http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif !!)

P.S. I just checked my CC email, and apparently there is a boycott of the BAP Handbook.

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I recently recieved BAP handbook...as a matter of fact it is in front of me now. I took the test in the beginning, and I scored a 13. A BAP maybe, or darn close... I have been researching the Black Upper Class for the past year, and I must say that it is very interesting. I can hardly put the book down. I would say that I fit the profile of Butterfly. Just a simple person... I LOVE THIS BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!

I just finished it!
 

Ladies, I picked up this book while in Barnes&Noble last week and
I enjoyed the book.

I have many aspects of Butterfly as far as background and attitudes but I DEFINITELY am not into the whole 'designer' thing. In fact, my wedding matched Butterfly on all except for the honeymoon destination. BUT I have no desire to be a BAP and I am not jealous of those who are.

While this book was supposed to be fun, it DID NOT belong in the 'Humorous' section of the bookstore; maybe 'AA Interest' or 'Women', though.

Dare we ask the Greek affiliation of all the authors?

Bapafied?
 

Hi Guys,

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but, I found the book to promote superficiality. I also saw one of the authors on BET. She was a fairly attractive cinnamon-skinned sister who, acted as if she didn't want to be cinnamon-skinned. Pathetic.
Yes---I know educated people are more articulate and well-spoken than common folk, but she was way too pretentious.
I don't know maybe it is because I am Ivy-League and don't mind "keepin' it real" with my people. Go figure!:confused:

Volume.com dogged the book out, they said how it just labled black people and had no purpose. I love the book, I think that it's cute and a fun book to read. The website even talked about Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority and how it's the only "true" BAP sorority. In my opinion, they contradicted themselves because they talked bad about a book for stereotyping black people, then in the same article they stereotyped a sorority.

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Really? Did they say those things about Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority? From what I understand, one of 'em is a member of another sorority! Go figure!:eek: ;)

I was not planning to revisit this topic, but the authors, in a SATIRICAL way, inferred that AKA or DST were the NPHC sororities of choice among the BAP set.

The authors' Internet site got some serious pounding from members of Zeta or SGRho. I met two of the authors about two months ago, got their autographs on my book, but did not discuss any Greek-related topics with them.

The BAP handbook is supposed to be humor but...

What the authors said is that the platinum BAP card is only good in AKA and DST sororities, and that members of SGRho and Zeta Phi Beta who were BAPs slipped through the cracks, and could be forgiven despite their choices in sororities.

I think they could have said AKA and Delta without SATIRICALLY bashing the other two organizations, but humor does that sometimes.

:D
TRSimon
Ask me what I think BAP really stands for...hee hee...

President of the Vancouver Chapter BAP fan club...:rolleyes:

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The book to me was cute not to be taken seriously. I think the authors where just having fun.

http://www.baphandbook.com/aboutus.html

I thought it was cute and a satirical look at the "Our Kind of People" crowd, but I don't think they were truly kidding - about 70% of it is true with the other 30% being blown out of proportion for chuckles. And no, I don't think you can be a cross of any of the categories - you're either in one or out - I disagree with their assessment of a Butterfly - in particular the fact that she gets her status by being mentored by a Betty or a Boho - I think they are influenced by their parents who want their kids to have more than them and have strong values - not mentoring at college - but I guess you would have to buy into a concept of a BAP to even analyze it to that degree. Some folks who think they are Butterflies are really Bogus without the bling bling mentality!!