2004 NFL Draft
 

Who's gonna watch? I'm gonna be glued to my recliner all weekend. ;)

Ole Miss has got to love all the pub they're gettin with Eli's face being on TV every 5 seconds.

Eli, suck it up and sign with SD if you get drafted. Man, i hope the Broncos get a good running back and the Texans get some OL help.

Kitso
KS 361

I agree. Eli needs to play wherever he goes. The draft was not built to be a mutual selection process. Despite the fact that they've essentially sucked year after year, SD could be a decent place if a good QB played there.

GO ELI!

ETA: Eli is a SIGMA NU by the way ya'll!


HE WAS LOOKING SO GOOD THIS MORNING ON CBS LIVE FROM THEIR PLAZA! MY ENTIRE OFFICE WAS WATCHING HIM!

I'm going to watch; I'd love if my Giants got Eli, if not him hopefully Gallery.

Does anyone think Eli will hold out like Elway (although Elway was a top Yankees prospect when he held out)?

Oh don't you worry, we know :D

A lot of us last fall would keep an eye on how A&M did, and also how Ole Miss did. I definately found myself rootin for the Rebs in the Cotton Bowl.

KSig,

I really think that SD is going to trade the pick. Eli could hold out, but it's not like the Elway situation. Elway was playing minor league ball for the Yankees at the time. Now, how legitimate his shot at making it to the majors was at the time is debateable, but he did have options.

I think SD is better served trading the pick, continuing development of Drew Brees, and addressing more needs.

Kitso
KS 361

Oh, they'd definitely be better served, but...

Their GM is in his first draft. Here he has a guy who's holding out, and I'm not sure he wants to set a precedent of giving into demands and trading.

I think this whole thing will just make the Chargers force Manning's hand and pick him; it's a hell of a situation, especially for a guy making his first draft pick as a GM.

Seriously,

i don't think they want to play hardball. Eli can hold out, spend the year working out, and re-enter the draft a year from now. It's not like he needs the money, ya know? In that situation, the chargers have just pissed a draft pick down their leg.

And i agree it's a tough situation, but if i'm the GM i'm like, ok, do i draft a kid and bring him in(or not) who doesn't want to be here, and cause animosity on the team and in the community, or do i trade it and get the most that i can and hopefully help the team and get a good person for SD in here.

If i'm in the guy's shoes, i'm like, fine kid, we don't need you, and i hope we meet the team who drafts you on the field and spank the crap out of them.

Kitso
KS 361

Tomorrow I will be here at NFL (National Football Lizz) headquarters. Having a sit sit ( maybe a drink drink) and watching the whole thing.

FOOTBALL ALL THE WAY!!

Yup.

He was our athlete of the year in 2003.

Our Epsilon Xi chapter is one of our top chapters.

Poor Eli with all those boo's getting the number one pick. Don't blame him for not wanting to play for a team that suck and coan't protect him from getting killed every down. Sorry for all you anti SEC folks. An SEC player got the #1 pick this year.:) Go SEC.:D

It shouldn't matter of a team sucking or not. Peyton went to a team that sucked and looked what he did to that team. I'd boo him too, suck it up and play. He still might get his wish and get traded to the giants anyway though.

Well,

at least he had enough class to walk up to the podium, take the Chargers jersey and take pictures with it.

I hope for Eli's sake that the trade occurs and that he blossums for the Giants.

and i hope they don't play the Chargers soon :D

Kitso
KS 361

Eli is now a Giant

Enh, the boos were from other primadonna hating fans. The Chargers fans are weak, (present company excluded). There were probably as many fans at the Draft proportionally compared to the other fans in attendance as stadium attendance in the league. Im sure the 500 people that actually go out and support their team were pissed off, but whatever.

Kudos to Washington for making the RIGHT choice

I'm not sure it's being a "primadonna".

It's just being a good businessman. The Manning family used their leverage to better their situation. If you have the ability to make something like that happen, why not use it? This makes Manning instantly a more valuable asset, he's in a better situation with the Giants now. There's nothing wrong with playing the cards you're dealt.

The lions trading down one spot was wierd considering they probably wanted Roy Williams anyway. I wonder if they'll trade down and grab Steven Jackson or stay and grab Williams now.

Yep, Lions took Roy Williams!!

I'm not saying hes a primadonna. But those fans in attendance at the draft werent booing him because hey didnt like his suit (truthfully, Roy Williams' suit was sweet)

Its not so weird for the Lions to trade down as for the Browns to trade up. Like you said, TH, theyd probably have taken Williams anyway, so why give up your 2nd round pick next year?

It was pretty funny how they must have fooled Cleveland into thinking they were going to take Winslow Jr. I was surprised to see Evans go this high, I thought he'd be a lower first round choice. Evans has talent and is fast though.

I'm thrilled the Bears got Harris. He looks like a good one.

He was a steal.

His college stats would have been a lot higher if it weren't for the Sooners' D-line rotation.

KTSnake, I agree. I think Harris's speed and agility will be a tremendous addition to the defense. Now, if they manage to sign him before training camp, I'll actually use my season tickets more than twice a year!

Why was Harris taken so low? Did he have a bad combine workout?


And why is Udeze still on the board? Wasnt he supposed to go top 10?

Vikings just picked Udeza (guess they learned how to tell time this year). Didn't Udeze have an injury?

One of the knocks on Harris is that his numbers weren't incredible (maybe 40 tackles), but I think that has more to do with the system he played in. I'm glad he slipped to 14.

i never figured out why they even do the drafts. it should be a free for all type of recruiting, like what the colleges/universities do. you have a salary cap and spend it on whoever you want. if your not selected, too bad. if you get picked and don't like that team and decide to turn them down, then i will see you at mcdonalds.

Teams chose to address other needs. Tommie was the first d-lineman taken in the draft.

http://giants.com/photos/MVC-007F2.jpg

Congrats to Eli getting the team he wanted.

WTF did the Texans just do?

Traded the rest of their picks for Babin? All they have left is a 5th round choice?

http://texags.com/images/forum/icon18.gif

I do like the pick, but i don't know about trading the farm for a guy i think they could have gotten with their 2nd round pick.

ETA: we have a 4th round too.

but i really can't understand the Broncos passing on Stephen Jackson. I know that Shanahan has had luck with sleeper backs, but i don't see this RB class as that deep.

Kitso
KS 361

Well, this DG Alum supports Eli. If for no other reason that his Mom and I are both Anchor Girls!!
The draft benefits one group of people. The 32 franchise owners. His Dad is well aware of this, and the Chargers ownership has not demonstrated a dedication to winning. Plus Schottenheimer and his offensive staff are not the best fit with Eli.

The draft serves a purpose but let me ask this: If you graduate from Medical School, do you then send in your diploma to AMA headquarters and wait to receive notification as to what city and hospital you may practice in? The comparison is not perfect, but both professions have highly skilled members who would be in demand anywhere.

I am pleased with the Bears draft so far. Tommie Harris was a steal where they got him. He and the other DT fit perfectly with what Lovie Smith and Ron Rivera want to do with the defense. And their third-round pick was projected as a second round pick so that was a good deal for them too.

It will be interesting to see what will happen today.

Um, thanks.

Anyway, thoughts on whos had a good draft so far? Bad drafts?

Dallas had a pretty bad draft this year. May make up for it in a big way next year.

I'll be cheering against the Bills in every game:D

I had hopes for Dallas when Steven Jackson was practically handed to them. Then they TRADE??? I don't get it.

I wasn't terribly impressed with their choices this year.

Steve McNair on has a couple years left in him, but i'd like to see Eli Manning in Tennessee within five years.

I'm soo excited that Eli went to the Giants. Did anyone see his girlfriend there with him? ....FYI: She's a cutie KD.

I felt sorry for him when they were booing. But it worked out for him. His family knows what they're doing when it comes to that kind of stuff.

And see, here I am HOPING they'd play the Chargers this year (but it looks like we play the Jets instead :p)

I'm not a super follower of the draft or anything, but my personal opinion is as Thrillhouse said, this isn't a mutual selection process...it's not like recruitment for GLOs (sororities, at least). If someone selects you, you should be proud of the opportunity to play, no matter where you're playing. As someone else said, Peyton was drafted by a losing team, and look at what he's done for the Colts. Maybe if Eli had stayed with the Chargers he'd do the same thing for them, as well.

:p to him....I hope it works out for him with the Giants, but you better believe I'd be one of those booing him if he ever played here

I'd have to say the best draft was Detroit. Worst was Cleveland or maybe Baltimore but the ravens didn't have many picks.

I've heard that almost all of the Manning men have married Delta Gammas. Is this true?? If so, they certainly have good taste!

The draft...I don't really do NFL football. My main concern was where the UGA boys went and if my beloved Billy Bennett gets to go pro.

Crazy couple of days to be a Giants fan; I thought they would go for Nat Dorsey over Snee, but hopefully he'll be a good weakside protector. Hopefully the linebackers and safeties they got later in the draft can help, they really needed to beef up at those spots.

I'll admit I was pretty upset with the Manning trade - it's a lot to give up, hopefully he ends up being as good as they think.

A lot to give up, indeed. At least youre not a Redskins fan, though...wed give what the Giants gave for Manning for someone like Ryan Leaf or Brian Bosworth