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lilbluie 04-21-2004 03:43 PM

need advice
 
What kind of advice or suggestion can you give to someone who does have a aphio chapter at their school but is interested in rushing? Thanks. :p

lilbluie 04-21-2004 03:44 PM

Re: need advice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lilbluie
What kind of advice or suggestion can you give to someone who does have a aphio chapter at their school but is interested in rushing? Thanks. :p

:eek:

does = doesn't.....

sorry for the error....

Senusret I 04-21-2004 05:06 PM

Get a few friends together who may also be interested and contact the National Office www.apo.org.

GoldnBlue2004 04-21-2004 06:59 PM

Re: need advice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lilbluie
What kind of advice or suggestion can you give to someone who does have a aphio chapter at their school but is interested in rushing? Thanks. :p

Are you near a school with a chapter?

lilbluie 04-21-2004 08:40 PM

Re: Re: need advice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GoldnBlue2004
Are you near a school with a chapter?
yes.

GoldnBlue2004 04-21-2004 10:44 PM

Well I would advise you to get some people who are interested with you, talk to nationals, tell nationals to get that chapter to serve as your big brothers, and then go from there. What school is that you are near and what school are you from again?

Senusret I 04-21-2004 11:26 PM

Discretion is key.

lilbluie 04-22-2004 01:04 AM

good call Senusret I :)

I'll check things out....if things work out, great :D ....if not, then at least I tried. Thank ya'll...

naraht 04-22-2004 04:47 AM

Contacting Nationals
 
Although the advice has been to recruit a few friends and then talk to Nationals, both can really be done at the same time. Start by sending email to chapter.services.dir@apo.org saying what school you are at and your US mail address and phone number and any questions you might have. The Chapter Services Director is the Fraternity Professional who works with extension efforts at the National Level. They will put you in contact with the volunteer staff in your area.
(And yes, people here are curious as to what school. They aren't trying to pry, just interested as to where you are)

Randy

lilbluie 04-22-2004 12:36 PM

Re: Contacting Nationals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by naraht
Although the advice has been to recruit a few friends and then talk to Nationals, both can really be done at the same time. Start by sending email to chapter.services.dir@apo.org saying what school you are at and your US mail address and phone number and any questions you might have. The Chapter Services Director is the Fraternity Professional who works with extension efforts at the National Level. They will put you in contact with the volunteer staff in your area.
(And yes, people here are curious as to what school. They aren't trying to pry, just interested as to where you are)

Randy

I know what you mean Randy.....though I been told on this forum not to give out too much info but I am right next to SJSU. :D I am interested in how this extension works. I'll email them and see what happens. Thanks!

emb021 04-22-2004 04:36 PM

Re: Re: Contacting Nationals
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lilbluie
I know what you mean Randy.....though I been told on this forum not to give out too much info but I am right next to SJSU. :D I am interested in how this extension works. I'll email them and see what happens. Thanks!
In no way am I the expert in this, but my understanding is as follows:

You need to contact APO to get a Chapter going. You'll also need to get approval from the school to bring APO here. No approval, no go. But I recommend you contact the National Office to understand what you need.

Once you do have this approval, you can start recruiting people and do some service projects. You need a minimum number of people and have done a minimum number of projects to be giving status as an Interest Group. You'll also be assigned an alumni as your sponsor who will guide you thru the whole process and will help you understand what you need to do, and what you can/can not do as you work toward being a chapter.

The next step is to become a Petitioning group. You need to increase your numbers and do more projects, and I think other things, and get approval to become a PG. During this time you'll get a big brother chapter who will work with you.

Once you get approval, you become a PG, and you are then Petitioners, which are kind of like pledges. As a PG you need to develop your pledge program, membership program, service program, etc as you increase your membership and get approved for chartering as a chapter.

Its a lot of work. The whole process can take some time. But its worth it as being able to say you're a founder of a chapter says a lot.

Hope this helps

naraht 04-22-2004 09:54 PM

If *Re*activating & other advice.
 
The procedure is a little bit different if you are at a school that had an active chapter at one time, but not much. If you were at Santa Clara University for example, which was Eta Alpha chapter, the group would be expected to try to contact alumni (with the help of both APO National and SCU alumni office) and investigate what chapter history was like prior to it going inactive. (and any alumni you do find should be invited to rechartering of course) The rechartering chapter would get the letters Eta Alpha when it rechartered. A chartering chapter at a school with no chapter would get brand new chapter letters. (BTW, SCU went inactive in 1956, so that would make things a little more difficult)

While every extension is different, some characteristics do affect the interaction with the administration. Level of Social Greek involvement on campus generally falls into 4 possibilities
1) Strong social greek system
2) Weak social greek system
3) No social greek system, but with National Honorary Societies
4) No national greek letter organizations.

I presume your school is in category 3 or 4 since I can't find any schools with strong social greek systems other than SJSU in the San Jose area.

Religious affliation of lack thereof makes a difference. an administration at a Baptist school might want to know about the successful chapter at Houston Baptist. A Jesuit school might want to know about Georgetown University.

And we have people on this group (not me) who have been through the extension process themselves. (I"ve been on sectional staff through a half-dozen or so)



Randy

lilbluie 04-23-2004 05:20 PM

Thanks for the info. everyone.

any possibility of rushing at another chapter?

Senusret I 04-23-2004 07:18 PM

Nope....we don't do that.

naraht 04-23-2004 11:01 PM

Rushing elsewhere...
 
Normally an extension group will be assigned a big brother chapter. (If such a school is relatively (<30-40 miles) close). While this is not the same as rushing at another school, a big brother chapter is expected to help recruit at the school, assign individual big brothers to petitioners and generally help run the first pledging cycle. (As the group gets stronger such activities move to the group attempting to charter).

Being that close to SJSU, they would probably be chosen for Big Bro chapter, SJSU's chapter is strong.

Randy

emb021 04-26-2004 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lilbluie
Thanks for the info. everyone.

any possibility of rushing at another chapter?

Not anymore.

We had the concept of Extension Membership, which would allow for this, but it was dropped in 2000.

Extension Membership was intended to help jumpstart new chapters by allow up to a certain number (between 4-6) of students from a school that didn't have APO to join a chapter at another school. Once that number was reached, it was hoped that those Brothers would form the core of an IG at their school at take to to chartering.

Apparently it was used successfully in some part of the country, but not in others. Some didn't understand this and it was removed from our National Bylaws.

naraht 04-27-2004 10:45 PM

I'm trying to find out any place where it was used successfully...

Randy

emb021 04-28-2004 11:30 AM

Speak with the person who proposed its re-instatement at the last NatConv.

lilbluie 04-29-2004 02:54 PM

If you guys have more info. about this, that'll be awesome.

If there is a possibly re-instatement for extent membership, please let me know what's up.

Thanks! :D

emb021 04-30-2004 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lilbluie
If you guys have more info. about this, that'll be awesome.

If there is a possibly re-instatement for extent membership, please let me know what's up.

Thanks! :D

Please realize that re-instatement of extension membership requires a change in our National Bylaws. An attempt was made in 2002 to do so, but failed.

Next time would be 2004, IF someone tries again. You'll also need to get the voting delegates to agree, otherwise it will get voted down again.

lilbluie 05-05-2004 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emb021
Please realize that re-instatement of extension membership requires a change in our National Bylaws. An attempt was made in 2002 to do so, but failed.

Next time would be 2004, IF someone tries again. You'll also need to get the voting delegates to agree, otherwise it will get voted down again.


wow, i c. how do I begin? When will the voting start? Fall 2004?

Senusret I 05-05-2004 06:27 PM

If you really want to be a Brother, you already know what to do. The rest is not relevant to your journey at this time.


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