Another dumb chapter
 

April 10, 2004 -- Mount Vernon
Hazing Allegations At Cornell College

The Greek organizations at Cornell College in mount vernon are under investigation following reports of hazing.

The alleged incident involved the Delta Phi Rho fraternity. Seven recruits say they were forced to live in a wet basement without access to showers and toilets and were also deprived of sleep.

All pledging was suspended last month for the fourteen Greek groups on the Cornell campus.

A task force has been appointed for the investigation and a report is due in September.

That particular local may be dumb, but I have to applaud the actions of one of the sororities there. The Sioux City Journal's story on this mess points out that the police investigated after members of the Phi Omega sorority expressed their concern --they were at that fraternity house for a party and evidently notice something was wrong. While I know nothing about that college's Greek system, I have to say at least some members of it were willing to blow the whistle on something that's unacceptable.

But, suspend pledging for all 14 chapters because of what one chapter did? That hardly seems fair, unless they have more information than that!

Dee

I was wondering the same thing. I can see kicking off one... but ALL?

Anyone have any info as to how exactly Cornell expects to "investigate" this situation by terminating new pledging for these 14 groups?

Is Cornell a private or public institution? If public, these groups need to get legal representation.

I would think the university is concerned with Hazing as a Greek wide issue, and thus, has suspended pledging. It doesn't say the chapters were suspended. When a university has no idea of how much hazing is going on, or believes that hazing is rampant, catching one group can open a window to investigate them all. Kudos to the sorority who pointed this out...

Cornell College is private. There once were national GLOs, but many, many years ago, they mandated that the system go local. I wouldn't be surprised if they mandate that the locals go national, as a remedy.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they did away with them altogether. Mt. Vernon, Iowa, which is where Cornell College is, is a very small conservative midwestern town (like maybe 4000 people, not including students) and they don't want a lot of hoopla.

Cornell is a very small private college. The Greek community is old but is not policed at all. The girl I lived with two years ago was in a sorority there in the late 90s and she went on and on about how they hazed and some of the things they made their pledges do. I was in shock just listening to some of the things they did!

That's very odd that this coolege would mandate that all GLO's go local.
Do you know the reason for that?

I think hazing is a really big problem in this part of the country with local GLOs, which is really a bad reflection on those of us who were in more traditional Greek systems.

I know Luther College also has some problems with locals, and I've heard some pretty nasty rumors from the Dubuque schools as well.

Very small???

And Cornell, if I'm not mistaken, isn't just private - at least at one of its schools it's public I believe.

-Rudey

Cornell College (not to be confused with Cornell University)

from www.cornellcollege.edu
That's pretty small.

LOL OK my mistake I thought you were talking about the University so I was confused. Sorry about that.

-Rudey
--Wow that is small.

Isn't Cornell College affiliated in some way with the Methodist Church? And isn't tuition + room and board there around $27,000 a year? The college might be concerned about negative PR that could impact applications -- unless there are a lot of parents with a desire to shell out private college costs to have their children hazed.

Rudey, like you I missed that also along with others.:o

Usually Religious schools are small. William-Jewell was tied into Methodist Church until the right for gays to be allowed the same rights as anyother student. Collegits voted Yes, Methodists said okay, no funding! School said so be it! Good for the school!:cool:

Shorter College in Rome, Ga. said no more for Locals because of Hazing and wanted only National Greek Organizations. Still working on it! CARNATION is resident expert on that front!

Alfred U, in NY, KICKED ALL Greek Organizations off of Campus for what a hazing stunt went wrong and a student died, belonging to a Local.

Will have to check that web site for more Info!:)

Russ, cannot agree with you more, why kick off Nationals and go Locals? Nationals have or try to have better controls in place!:)

Yes and yes. But I would say the affilliation with the Methodist Church isn't as strong as similar schools in Iowa--Loras in Dubuque (Catholic) or Luther in Decorah (Lutheran). I would consider it a relatively liberal school given its setting.

exactly:( one of those sororities i know has a harsh paddling initiation. Illinois is probably worse though since more hazing begins at highschool. this also points to the larger problem of hazing becoming more secretive as those in favor of it realize the need to keep it quiet and out of the headlines. it's not that there's less people who want to haze, but with lawsuits being filed and schools, names, families getting media exposure, it's helped reduce some of it and made the groups that haze more careful about hazing in any way that could be proven. that's why there's so many of these groups who will go on record as being a non hazing org., but in reality, behind the scenes, they work hard to ensure it still goes on, but make activities more innocent sounding. if you call it by something other than hazing, then in their minds, it's not hazing.

Hoosier is an alumni of an NPC fraternity (I forget which, and anyway not for me to say). Additionally he is (or at least was for some years) a chapter advisor for that fraternity. His sources are the Fraternal News group - check the first post at the top of this forum the thread which starts "Important: How to access..."
Other news sources for this are Google - which has a 'News' feature and regular search functions.
Websites of campus newspapers often generally also have a story about an issue which you hear a mention of and give a grass roots level perspective on it.
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After posting this I viewed some other posts of the delightfully named "AssNTitties" who discussed how he loved being a member of Kappa Alpha order and how he enjoys incestuous kissing with his (impliedly biological) sister.

'AssNTitties' went on to indicate his pride at how he believed the late 'spiritual founder' of Kappa Alpha Order was in regular verbal contact with him; before rounding off this triumvirate of trolling by asking members of an org, if they had black members and what they therefore thought of the historical roots the group had in the Ole South.

I have to agree that this is a common problem in the private colleges in Illinios/Iowa especially since most of them have local greek systems not national. I grew up right by Augustana College and had many friends who went there. The stories I have heard are just disgusting. Both of my parents went there and were greeks and comparing their stories to my friends, they aren't very different which I find quite frightening. Hopefully this is a sign that will make these Colleges recognize what is really going on.

The school did the right thing. They don't regulate their fraternities, so if one screws up, then they're all suspect for review. It's called risk management.

Just a side note, what ever org. Hoosier is a part of, I doubt it's an NPC fraternity, being that he is male.

Whoops
 

My bad, I meant obviously NIC fraternity. I must have just been tired and not concentrating when I made the original post (I see I made it at nearly 2am).

Re: Whoops
 

It's all good. I mean he could be one of those guys that had a sex change and then we could debate in one the many thread about can he/she pledge a sorority because of the sex change ;)