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Ideal08 07-17-2001 03:54 PM

The Drop Squad
 
I can't believe this has never been discussed! Anywho, moving on http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

I FINALLY saw this movie last week. It was on BET, so I still need to see the uncut version. Has anyone else seen it? What did you think? I loved the movie.

The movie is about "sell-outs" and a group of people (called the Drop Squad) who kidnap the sell-outs and "drop" (deprogram) them; try to make them "ideal" Black citizens, if you will.

On to the topic of my thread. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

If you could "drop" anyone (meaning deprogram a "sell-out"), who would you drop?

Have you ever felt like you needed to be "dropped"? Basically, have you ever had to check yourself?


pointNclick 07-17-2001 04:14 PM

"Dropped" Wish List:

1) Mariah Carey
2) Bryant Gumbel
3) Wesley Snipes
4) Colin Powell (even though he is a fellow NY'er)
5) Michael Jackson
6) Lil' Kim

There have been a few times when I needed to be dropped. Not because I "sold out" but because I looked at people from lower socio-economic backgrounds unfavorably.

BlueReign 07-17-2001 04:15 PM

My roommate sophomore year who told me she didn't know who Coretta Scott King was.

Ideal08 07-17-2001 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueReign:
My roommate sophomore year who told me she didn't know who Coretta Scott King was.
http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif Damn, I say, Damn. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif


AKA2D '91 07-17-2001 04:47 PM

yo azz is off! scrait off!

ROTFLMAO!


MeezDiscreet 07-17-2001 05:42 PM

i thought this movie was the craziest thing i had ever seen!! i sat there the whole time like http://www.plauder-smilies.de/sad/shakehead.gif .

at first, i thought it was a crazy, keenan ivory wayans-type production (like "i'm gonna get you sucka") or chris rock-type of movie (like "cb4") and i liked to fell out of my chair when i saw ozzie davis and his beautiful-to-this-day wife, ruby dee, commenting on how wonderful a movie it was!! (i saw it on upn as one of the african-american heritage movies)

Professor 07-17-2001 05:47 PM

Add Clarence Thomas to the list - - -

Why Dirty Kim?

Ideal08 07-17-2001 06:00 PM

Put all the Black drug dealers in America on my list.

Put all the constant committers (is that a word) of Black-on-Black crime on my list, too.

Convinced 07-17-2001 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Professor:
Add Clarence Thomas to the list - - -

Why Dirty Kim?

I can't speak for PointNClick, but I would add Kim because she is like a walking billboard for these white designers, and she seems to have this attitude like "I can wear it, ya'll can't afford it."


The Original Ape 07-17-2001 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Professor:
Add Clarence Thomas to the list - - -

Why Dirty Kim?

Bruh! You is right on point with clarence! He would be first on my list. Next would be all of the drug dealers and addicts, then all of the Uncle toms and Aunt janes, then all of the African presidents resisting uniting Africa into one country, then all of the "independent women" and gay peeple, racists, and outright stupid peeple of da world! Oh yeah; all of da peeple that resist decriminalizin' Marijuanna! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

Now peep dat shyt!


AKA2D '91 07-17-2001 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Original Ape:
Bruh! You is right on point with clarence! He would be first on my list. Next would be all of the drug dealers and addicts, then all of the Uncle toms and Aunt janes, then all of the African presidents resisting uniting Africa into one country, then all of the "independent women" and gay peeple, racists, and outright stupid peeple of da world! Oh yeah; all of da peeple that resist decriminalizin' Marijuanna! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

Now peep dat shyt!


Some people need to "Just Say NO"!

um um um

BTW, what's wrong with a woman doing thangs for herself sometimes? HUH?


Steeltrap 07-17-2001 08:11 PM

Public figure drop candidates:

Ward Connerly, a man who managed to impose his psychoses on other people.

Orenthal. There was a New Yorker article showing that he still doesn't get it. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

On the private tip, I'd agree that drug dealers and other perpetrators of black-on-black crime need a dropping.

The Original Ape 07-17-2001 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKA2D '91:
Some people need to "Just Say NO"!

um um um

BTW, what's wrong with a woman doing thangs for herself sometimes? HUH?

It's one thang to not need any financial help; but when you start announcing you don't need anything from the opposite sex, flauntin' it like some people flaunt their thang, it gets to be unbearable. You know?


novella000 07-17-2001 10:39 PM

Segun from the Real World/Road Rules Special

SweetestDiva 07-17-2001 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by novella000:
Segun from the Real World/Road Rules Special
LMAO!!

IotaNet 07-18-2001 12:46 AM

Why Colin Powell?

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tickledpink 07-18-2001 02:35 AM

Westley Snipes
Maria Carey
OJ
...more to come.

BlueReign 07-18-2001 09:40 AM

I am just now seeing this. I can't stop LMAO!! I don't know what I would do without you all. You make my day go by on this boring summer job.

No for real she didn't know who she was and I told my father and he was like "Naw!! stop playing!" How can you grow up black in America and not know who Coretta Scott King is.

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lil bit 07-18-2001 09:42 AM

Tiger Woods
Definitely Colin Powell

mccoyred 07-18-2001 10:17 AM

I saw this movie back in the day and I agree w/ the concept. But towards the end, things just got out of hand and went too far.

But...If there was a Drop Squad who would determine the Drop List? Who would lead the Drop Squad? Who would set the methods of persuasion? What would be the method of operations? Who would execute the persuasions? What would happen to infiltrators?

Just a reality check.




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DoggyStyle82 07-18-2001 11:49 AM

In order for someone to be "dropped", they either have had to have forgotten their cultural heritage, deny their cultural heritage, dishonor their cultural heritage, deliberately harm their fellow culture group members, or adopt the majority's attitude or perception of your own culture group (there can be other gradations of drop-ability).

I don't think Colin Powell falls into any of these categories. He seems to be a proud, Black man who happens to be Republican. He is very pro-Black on certain issues, especially Affirmative Action and access to equal education and healthcare. Being a Republican is not always equal to sell out. Now J.C. Watts needs to be dropped with a quickness

CITA needs to be dropped.
BET's head of programming needs to be dropped

Having said all that, the Drop Squad mentality is counter-productive. It says that there is a "way" to be Black and if you run afoul of that, you need to be punished. That is un-American and verges on thought-control and totalitarianism. Its fun to fantasize though, cuz I would put a serious whuppin' on O.J, Ward Connerly, and Mike Tyson.

AKA2D '91 07-18-2001 01:00 PM

Tina Turner. She knows doggone well, she ain't from England.

Yo butt is from NUTBUSH, Tennessee. LOL

Charles Barkley
This person at my job. ugghhhhhhhh!
Lionel Richie...brotha ain't had a HIT since...LOL
Diana Ross



dirtymike1906 07-18-2001 01:09 PM

I'm with Doggystyle--J.C. Watts, Cita, and the BET programming director have got to go!! And while I'm there, I think I'll add Armstrong Williams, Alan Keyes, Tiger (for being Cablinasian when he knows his a** is black), the so-called "Independent Women" as mentioned by OA, sisters who chase other persuasions for monetary gain, any rapper who uses the phrase "You know what I'm sayin?" more than 100x during an interview, and the entire state of Florida. More to come....

Ideal08 07-18-2001 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by dirtymike1906:
the entire state of Florida.
LMAO! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif How you just gon' drop the ENTIRE state of FL??? LOL LOL LOL!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif


Kimmie1913 07-18-2001 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Ideal08:
LMAO! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif How you just gon' drop the ENTIRE state of FL??? LOL LOL LOL!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif


Adding to what has come before-
Condolezza RIce
The DJ's on my local radio station for sounding as ignorant as the records they spin
All successful Balck folks who have lost the ability to differentiate between a hand up and a hand out.

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Tsunami 07-18-2001 01:39 PM

DoggyStyle82, I agree with you. Although the movie is a cute and entertaining concept, I also feel it is a dangerous one. I am curious as to how the Drop Squad would determine the African-American "ideal." And who has the right to impose his or her opinion of that "ideal" on anyone else? The definition of a sell-out is a very subjective thing. Not to mention, some people have such a warped sense of what it is to be African-American. These days "being down" and "keeping it real" has taken on such twisted definitions. Heck, many of us on this board may be considered sell-outs, in certain circles, for various reasons (like the way we speak, where we live, where we shop, where we work, our political affiliations, where we chose to go to school, or because we chose to go to school, etc.) Personally, the way my people have been screwing up lately, I wouldn't trust not a one with this job.

And let us not forget that back in the day a Drop Squad was formed, but THEY decided to call it the KKK.

SFactor 07-18-2001 02:29 PM

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The entire state of Florida. [/B]

I can see the reason as to why you want to drop Florida - they had the deciding votes - and I would drop the people with two faces on their bodies - especially the ones who tell you they're your friends.

......I'm glad none of ya'll (with the southern drawl) are like that!!

dirtymike1906 07-18-2001 02:47 PM

Ideal08 and Kimmie1913: Okay, I know the entire state is a little extreme, so we'll just remove the governor and state officials first, all the people and laws, and make the joint a large, Sandals/Montego Bay-like resort area. lol http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

IotaNet 07-18-2001 04:04 PM

Quote:

Tsunami wrote:
I am curious as to how the Drop Squad would determine the African-American "ideal." And who has the right to impose his or her opinion of that "ideal" on anyone else? The definition of a sell-out is a very subjective thing. Not to mention, some people have such a warped sense of what it is to be African-American. These days "being down" and "keeping it real" has taken on such twisted definitions. Heck, many of us on this board may be considered sell-outs, in certain circles, for various reasons (like the way we speak, where we live, where we shop, where we work, our political affiliations, where we chose to go to school, or because we chose to go to school, etc.)
Tsunami is so on-point here! (As was DoggyStyle regarding Colin Powell.) It's a dangerous thing to get into "Blacker-than-thou" discussions.

We are very adamant about white people labeling our race as a "Monolith" but on the other hand we also want all Blacks to subscribe to a common agenda. We can't have it both ways.

There is room for many shades of Blackness and many variations of thought/action. Nobody has the right to define Blackness for an individual except that individual.

And, oh by the way - folks need to really get up offa Bryant Gumbel.

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Ideal08 07-18-2001 04:45 PM

Ok, this is not about "defining Blackness," in my opinion, this is about working with individuals who are working AGAINST the struggle. You can be an "oreo," for lack of a better term, and not be a sell-out. The peeps I'm talking about are UNDOING everything that we (in our service as BGLO's) are DOING. That's what I'm talking about. If I'm trying to keep kids in the community off of drugs and in school, the drug dealers are working against me. If I'm trying to keep affirmative action and someone Black is trying to get rid of it, they are working AGIANST me. But I guess it's cool if we still have house negroes in 2001. I guess. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

But beyond this, can we PRETEND, just for this thread, that we are not trying to define anyone's blackness or sellout or whatever, and just say who we would drop? We're not starting the Drop Squad, we're just talking about it, lol. Or fantasizing, as Doggystyle put it.

Tsunami 07-18-2001 04:56 PM

Amen IotaNet!

Tru Blue Lady 07-19-2001 12:12 AM

I know people may disagree with this one but..... I say add

Oprah Winfrey to the list

pebbles_6 07-19-2001 12:44 AM

Excellent topic...I have not seen the movie, but based on what I've heard, I would drop the following people:

Tiger Woods
Mariah Carey
Beyonce Knowles
Michael Jackson

The first course they would need to take is Guess who's not coming to Dinner "Whitey Still Looks At You As A N*****"

O.J. Simpson
Dennis Rodman
Mike Tyson
Deion Sanders

Course Description: Just because you can throw a ball (or a punch) you will be scrutinized in the public eye tenfold that of your white counterparts...get your act together.

JC Watts
Clarence Thomas

Course description: I can't even comment to their hysteria.

On a personal note: I would drop practically every rapper in the industry that pollutes our youth with lyrics and images of misogyny, degradation and basically a "Thug Life" mentality for their own profit and personal gain without putting one iota of it back into the community. That to me is a sellout. Same difference as pushing drugs.

Let's see who else??? I'll be back with more. Peace!


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