Nasty Nine Club
 

http://mulambda.org/APOnineclub01.JPG

http://mulambda.org/APOnineclub02.JPG

nice pics

Thanks. :)

Re: Nasty Nine Club
 

Is that Alpha Phi Omega's handsign? If so, are handsigns common for all APO chapters? I'm just curious because I remember seeing members on campus (University of Maryland), but I don't ever remember seeing a handsign.

Re: Re: Nasty Nine Club
 

Yes indeed, it is our official, national handsign. :D

Handsign
 

Something we may have been doing longer than the NPHC fraternities. Anyone know when somewhat consistent handsigns were used by the NPHC GLOs?

Randy

Interesting, learn something new every day!

And P.S. I DID do my research and looked on your national website before asking! (Very nice website by the way, I loved reading the story about the founding of the fraternity :) )

Another question:
Has APO been using a handsign from the beginning, or is it a more recent thing? (After reading some of the website, my guess would be from the beginning, but I wasn't sure).

If I'm asking anything that is not public domain, feel free to let me know. :)

Well it isn't used as often by chapters like Epsilon Mu at UMCP, because the idea of flashing a handsign is not that heavily used at Historically White Institutions.

I believe it goes all the way back, but I'll investigate. My National History book and 75th anniversary CD are at work right now.

Randy

Re: Handsign
 

Randy, it's time for you to get "Black Greek 101." The answer begins on page 123. :)

Re: Re: Handsign
 

Hmm. You're right. Mid to late 1970s. I *know* that we have been using ours longer than that.
And the sororities, not until the mid 1980s.
(This actually came from an article about a talk the Author did at Nebraska. And as a coda to *just* how little clue they have out there on the topic. The article says the author and his father are both members of Alpha *KAPPA* Alpha Fraternity. :(

(http://www.dailynebraskan.com/vnews/.../3fd409de51985)

I LOVE IT!!!
 

Thanks Rashid, I didn't know that I was going to be posted all over the Internet!!!!:) They really don't know about being SOOO NASTY!!!!

9-ZP-03 A

Rashid this pics are really nice....I so enjoy seeing the APO family together (I cant wait till Sectionals this weekend). Was this at the Zeta Phi probate?

Re: Re: Re: Handsign
 

hijack:

EEK! For real!! I just looked over the article myself and,

"I've always wondered why there is such a separation between the multicultural greek system and the traditional greek system," she said, "and I want to know if there is any way we can bridge that gap."

How is one traditional when a number of NPHC orgs were founded before many other GLOs??

end hijack

Great pics! I can't get enough of seeing brotherly love!!!

This was actually the next day, the probate was a little too late in the evening for me. :)

Those pictures are nice man. Keep up the good work!

Re: Re: Re: Nasty Nine Club
 

Yes, but I wish they would show it properly. :\

Sorry, but just as some get upset about poorly done rituals (am one of those), being a 30+ year scouting veteran (youth + adult) and arrowman, I get a little upset when people don't do the handsign correctly.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Handsign
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by preciousjeni
[B]hijack:

How is one traditional when a number of NPHC orgs were founded before many other GLOs??
[QUOTE]
Well, the "traditional" greek system is generally viewed as the members of the North-American Interfraternity Council and the National Panhellenic Council. (The "white" fraternities and sororities). Of the members of the NPC, none were founded after 1917. The average date of founding appears to be about 1890. See http://web.library.uiuc.edu/ahx/npc/ for more info. The years on the Fraternities stretch back farther. In both cases, most of the groups which started in the 20th century which have joined the two councils are the ones started by Jewish Students who could not be admitted to other greeks.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Handsign
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by naraht
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by preciousjeni
hijack:

How is one traditional when a number of NPHC orgs were founded before many other GLOs??

Quote:

Well, the "traditional" greek system is generally viewed as the members of the North-American Interfraternity Council and the National Panhellenic Council. (The "white" fraternities and sororities). Of the members of the NPC, none were founded after 1917. The average date of founding appears to be about 1890. See http://web.library.uiuc.edu/ahx/npc/ for more info. The years on the Fraternities stretch back farther. In both cases, most of the groups which started in the 20th century which have joined the two councils are the ones started by Jewish Students who could not be admitted to other greeks.

:( I guess I just don't like it and I'll have to deal with it. By the way,

National Panhellenic Conference (26 Women's Fraternities/Sororities)

Over half of them were founded after 1908 (that's after TWO of the NPHC orgs were founded)

Zeta Tau Alpha - 1909
Alpha Gamma Delta - 1909
Alpha Delta Pi - 1909
Delta Zeta - 1910
Phi Mu - 1911
Kappa Delta - 1912
Sigma Sigma Sigma - 1951
Alpha Sigma Tau - 1951
Alpha Sigma Alpha - 1951
Alpha Epsilon Phi - 1951
Theta Phi Alpha - 1951
Phi Sigma Sigma - 1951
Delta Phi Epsilon - 1951
Sigma Delta Tau - 1951

Fraternity info is harder to come by and more complicated! :)

Jeni, I am pretty sure those are the dates that those respective orgs joined the NPC, not their founding dates.

I could be wrong though.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Jeni, this thread may help to clarify your questions:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...founding+dates

Re: Re: Handsign
 

The briefly touch on Alpha Phi Omega in that book, (Sadly, but expected). But it does tell you where a lot of 'our" traditions stem from.

what is exactly the nasty nine club?

Its just a persona that the nines kind of take on....nothing serious. Its like the cliques that you rolled with in highschool, but amongst the different lines within Alpha Phi Omega.

I wouldn't even say it's a persona....just an affinity for your pledge number and all those who have it.

(For me, at least!)

They don't have anything on those 7 's though!!!:D

Mighty mouse
 

You can join too, all you have to be is a nine who is tight. Seven may be tight but nines are air tight, how could a number be so tight that all of its multiples added together equals nine:

And I would like to concur 7 times on that.

I got mad luv for the 9's though. My mentor is a 9. I love my 9 prophyte and my 9 lb and 1 of my lil's from the new line was the 9. I started off as a 9...but God had greater things for me :p *HA!*

And I am a 9 Times 2....
so 18 is definitely Double the trouble.
Me and Veronica are holding down that NUMBA!!!

Lines and Nicknames
 

I am going to be pledgemaster of the Alpha Alpha Epsilon chapter next year and am new to the whole lines and nicknames thing. Can someone please explain how lines work and how I can start them within my chapter?

Thanks!

-Ashley

Re: Lines and Nicknames
 

See my answer in the other thread about nicknames.