Legacies
 

I am not married nor do I have children but I was curious. I have two nieces with a third niece on the way. Would they be considered legacies to Sigma Kappa b/c I am a sister in SK?
Or do only daughters of members become legacies?

I myself was NOT a legacy b/c I am the first in my family to become a member of a sorority.

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answer to your question would be to contact sigma kappa national headquarters. some sororities consider indirect legacies, with direct legacies being daughters, granddaughters or sisters.
no matter what, you can certainly write a recommendation for them.

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That is ADPi's policy

Sigma Kappa considers sisters/step sisters, daughters/step-daughters, granddaughters/step granddaughters, & nieces/step-nieces to be legacies.

Interesting! I'll have to look into the step- thing. I may have a stepdaughter soon... :)

I know at least my chapter will take stepdaughters into consideration, since much of the time they have been exposed to them same ideals that any adpi would bestow upon their children. Officially I am not sure that it is considered though.

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I had posted the question of steps and was told we don't consider them. However, times do change - I'm sure at the time the Legacy policy was established NO one was getting divorces!!!

Yes, I know I can give her a rec, but being a leg is different...

It depends on the ADPi chapter. As a policy, steps do not qualify as official legacies. However, when an ADPi step sister/daughter/grandaughter, ADPi neice or ADPi cousin has come through, my chapter always regarded her with good consideration, even though they were not officially legacies.

The definition of a legacy varies among GLOs. AEPhi, for example, is among the sororities that don't consider step-relations... but in reality, a step-sister/daughter/granddaughter would most likely be treated as an "almost-legacy" just as, say, a niece or cousin would.

Even if your nieces aren't legacies, a letter of recommendation from their aunt can't hurt. ;)

I have only 2 daughters :) (one is not college bound, and the other is doing college via the army and then a campus without a Phi Mu Chapter (wah!!!!!!).

I like the nieces policy a LOT. I have 6 nieces ;) and that would give me so hope of having a first generation legacy :)....

What if an alum of a sorority has legal guardianship/adopted children would they also qualify as legacies?

P.S. The child that they have guardianship of is not blood related, would that matter?

Adopted children are legally your children, so yes, they are a legacy.

That is an interesting question! I mean, do you ask a woman if she's rec'ing her daughter-by-birth or is this her daughter-by-adoption?

Does anyone know ChiO's policy? My husband's sister is a ChiO and i'm just wondering if my future daughter will be considered a legacy.

Our legacy policy is a daughter, grandaughter or sister one. However, like adpiucf said, I think if she lists her aunt as a Chi Omega she will be looked upon favorably.

Chi Omega Legacy Policy
 

Point of information... Chi Omega's policy states that a legacy is the daughter or sister of a member in good standing. (As Michelle stated -- any other "relations" would certainly be viewed favorably!)

Your daughter is your daughter, if she is legally and/or biologically your child.

We had legacies at my school where we knew they were adopted, and they were counted as legacies. It's at your discretion to mention in a rec if your adopted child is adopted. Carnation of Greek Chat has adopted beautiful daughters who are counted legacies of her sorority, and who have also pledged at other sororities, where their adopted sisters-in-waiting would also be counted as legacies. :) Carnation, care to chime in?

Three times a lady
 

That's great! My sister-in-law is a Sigma Kappa so my other brother's daughter (our niece) is a legacy with three sororities. :D

I wish ADPI did neices. I have only one neice who will be college bound in a few years. Her mom went to school late in life and never affiliated so i'd love to be able to rec her as a legacie. Of course, I could always convince my Sis to AI...

Or you could write your neice a recommendation :) ADPi chapters appreciate recommendations of close or distant relatives, friends, etc.

Remember, a legacy is not guaranteed a bid, nor is someone with a recommendation. They are given an extra bit of courtesy out of respect to the sister who recommended them. It's not a fail-safe device to get into the sorority.

Re: Chi Omega Legacy Policy
 

Someone else stated that a granddaughter was also a legacy. Which is it for Chi Omega? My husband's mother was a Chi Omega, and I was wondering if my future daughters will be legacies. I can't ask her because she died when my husband was 4, and none of my sisters-in-law cared about greek life so they wouldn't know.

Hey, that's so sweet of you to say that! :)

One of our biological daughters pledged Chi O in fall 2002. Our oldest adopted daughter came through rush again the next fall. Although obviously not sisters by blood, they were considered to have a legacy relationship...there was never any question by the Chi Os.

Our second oldest adopted daughter will rush in the fall. She has already been invited to lunch by one of her legacy sororities (on a campus where this is legal, guys!:) ) and no one has raised a question about whether she's a true legacy...of course she is!

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When we were doing recruitment Fall 03, and the legacy info came up, I asked if I was a legacy in Fall 02 because my Grandmother is a Chi O. I was told that I was not, but the affiliation was known by the sisters although I was not considered a true legacy. Everything that I have heard and read confirms that I, along with other Chi O granddaughters, are not legacies! Only those that are sisters or daughters!

Apparently our new official policy is to consider step/blended families as legacies. Has anyone else's GLO's specifically changed their policies for this??

I don't know when we recognized it, but we do recognize step-mothers etc.

We consider you a legacy if your mother, sister, aunt, or grandmother (or a step-_____) is/was a Sigma Kappa.

Not sure if great-grandma would count. I know that Gamma Phi specifically lists great-grandmas for example. And that we were the only chapter on campus to consider aunts.

AXiD includes sister, mother, grandmother, daughter, step-, and recently added nieces as legacies.

A hypothetical question. If a young lady went through recruitment and her great grandmother or someone like that was a founder, would she be considered a legacy because of special circumstances? Honeychile, I remember the story about the 5 generation legacy in your chapter.

Huh, I think that she wouldn't "technically" be a legacy but would get some sort of special consideration, especially if SHE was super-interested. No idea though.

Example: A PNM lists us on her form as a legacy. Her cousin's a SK elsewhere. So.. technically not a legacy (she obviously wouldn't know; the form just asks for family members in GLOs). However while facebook stalking (I didn't actually do recruitment, I was computer girl) someone had posted on her wall "I saw a shirt that said Sigma Kappa and I thought of you" I knew that she was VERY interested in us and passed her name along.

Stuff like that at least makes people take notice.

Ack! I think it goes without saying that anyone who is a descendant of an Adelphean (and I daresay, a Philomathean) would be considered a legacy. It's just too much history to ignore. The five generation legacy had both an Adelphean AND an Alpha Delta Phi!

She's a great example, though, of how some people just don't want a sorority forced upon them. Sue had it all, but with all those generations, plus aunts & cousins, who were ADPis, she simply didn't want to go Greek. She got initiated at Convention, then transferred schools so she wouldn't have to be active.

The upside is that her roomie went ADPi with her, and she was an awesome sister!

ETA: I think when chapters are on the small side, or legacies and/or recs aren't quite as important, legacy develops a much looser meaning than say, an SEC school.

Kappa Delta has considered step-mother/daughter relationships as legacies at least for 20 years. This came up the first year I participated in rush as a sister.

As already said, ADPi leaves it up to the individual Chapters to determine how they treat steps. The vast majority say yes they are legacies.

However (and I know I've told this story before in some other thread) we had a situation a while back were an in-house active did not want her step-sister considered as a legacy. The active's Mom and step-Dad had been married recently after a whirlwind romance and the active didn't really know or particularly like her new step-sis. Mom was also an alum, but never pursued the matter by sending in a legacy intro. Frankly I was grateful for that because I really didn't want to get in the middle of a Mom/Daughter fight.

I wouldn't necessarily agree that most ADPi chapters give steps credit as legacies. Most I've seen view them as being akin to a niece or cousin-- an ADPi relative, but not a legacy.

My apologies. Allow me to clarify my statement. According to what I have been told by an International Officer, the majority of ADPi chapters consider steps as legacies. How accurate was her info? I have no idea and there is no way to check it out.

Was wondering if an active sister, at a different school, will help or hurt her soon to be rushing sister during cuts? Some have given advice not to write the connection down on any forms because the other houses will assume she will go in her sisters direction and could cut her because of it. Others have said since she is not "in house" at her sister's new school, it shouldn't hurt her with the other sororities, but might give her an edge with the sister sorority on the new campus? What do you all think?

Did that make sense?;)

you made perfect sense. unfortunately, i do not have a definitive answer for you.

i can definately say that you all should let the legacy chapter at your pnm's school know that she has a sister in a different chapter of the same sorority. if sister can write a rec., she should, otherwise, she (or the family) should help your pnm secure a rec. for that house(as well all the other houses on pnms campus)

FSUZeta's right, there is no good/easy answer to your situation. The viewpoints differ from one Chapter to another, one sorority to another and one campus to another.

I've heard of some that view it as an exciting challenge to try and "steal" a legacy away from another sorority, particularly an on-campus in house active's sister. I've heard that some figure it's pointless to even try and so drop the PNM early. Then there are some that are hopeful a PNM will make up her own mind and so treat her like everyone else. (Frankly, that's my choice.)

So unless you know an in house active who is willing to share that info, you'll never know how a Chapter views this scenario.

I know I've said this on other threads, but I think that at least in the South, being a legacy helps less and less. Most legacies from this area have not made it into their mothers' sororities, at least on competitive campuses, and the only ones we know who have made it into their sisters' sororities have been in-house legacies.

And if you're an in-house legacy, you'd better want your sister's sorority because chances are that with the new release figures, you're going to get cut by most of the other sororities pretty early. I know one who rushed last year and after first parties, she was cut by all the sororities except her sister's plus one that was quite a bit smaller that a high school friend was in. She spent the rest of recruitment week going to only these 2 parties. On other campuses, she would have been in much more demand with her grades, activities, and looks.

So in a big SEC school, it really isn't going to matter what sorority her sister is in as long as it is not "in house" legacy? It sounds like with the more competitive schools it shouldn't hurt or help.

It is sounding more and more that if you are a legacy you should send in whatever documentation you need to your legacy sorority ONLY, and not mention it on your application or advertise it during recruitment in any way. It sounds like being a legacy is as damaging to a PNM's options at recruitment as a bad GPA or questionable reputation!