Different Recruitment Styles between GLOs
 

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Re: Different Recruitment Styles between GLOs
 

Well you can a) brush your shoulders off and try again next year. b) apply for membership into another organization and be ridiculed.

I've noticed that some schools place a limit on how many women a chapter can take. I'm thinking this happens primarily at HBCUs but someone correct me if I'm wrong. But for Zeta we don't have regulations on how many women go through MIP or can be in a chapter.

What is PNM?

Potential New Member.

Rushee used to be the term, but that is no longer a correct term.

It's Potential New Member.

Makes sense since ya'll don't use Rush anymore! See I'm hip! lol.

My fraternity has lavish rush parties where the men must dress in the finest white clothing. We have skits and videos. In fact I sing to them a little diddie or two.

-Rudey
--I love RUSH!!! WOOOOO

We are an NPC affiliate. We don't participate in formal recruitment. So every semester we have our own recruitment which is the equivelent to NPC's COB period. Except instead of 1 or 2 days, we have 4 and a bid day.

Our beta chapter runs a little different because I am not sure if their school does formal at all. Their recruitment runs for about 2 weeks but there are only like 2 events per week. They have nationals at Sonoma... but I know when they started there wasn't an actually 'greek advisor,' so I don't think the greek system is very big out there.

What would a man do if he were interested in joining an NIC fraternity as an alumni intiate?

Well....it's hard to not use it! I know I still do a lot of the time without even thinking about it. Just like sometimes I still say pledge to describe a new member. :eek: But I promise, I really do try really hard not to.

OK well I can't divulge all our secrets because I'm scared of dirty rushing, but let's just say I shake my butt to the return of the mack (great song).

-Rudey

I don't know how many other fraternities do this and I think it's more of a sorority thing.

In my fraternity we don't do alumni initiation but we have honorary initiations. I don't even think we claim them as famous AEPis though.

-Rudey

I think Rudey's right...it does seem to be more of a sorority thing. However, I think that Pi Kappa Phi has alumni initiation, but I'm not sure. I don't want to state something that isn't correct, so if someone knows this to not be true, please let me know. But that's the only fraternity that I've heard of (so far) that does it.

I guess you could look on the website of the group or groups you were interested in joining and see if they have any information there. Also, you could ask that group (if they're on your campus) or if they have an alumnae chapter nearby you could ask them.

ETA: Does the NPHC have alumni/alumna initiation?

ETA: Does the NPHC have alumni/alumna initiation? [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes.

Yes. [/B][/QUOTE]

I've even see alumni Ques "step". They had heart, but one of them was a little too old to be doing anything too strenuous [sp?]. I have to applaud them for getting out there and doing it. These were mature men with wedding bands, who had just crossed, and they were sharing their Que love with ev'ry body!:)

Okay - thanks for all the responses so far!

What about other GLOs - such as service/honorary? Here's another example. I am a member of Kappa Kappa Psi - an honorary fraternity for college band members. Our recruitment process consisted of an informal "smoker" and a formal "smoker" - which were basically just informational meetings. The informal one you went to to find out more info about the fraternity and let the fraternity brothers know who was interested as well as find out more info. about you. The formal smoker was - well, formal, and after that is when we gave out bids.

We also do not have a set number for chapter total or a quota of new members to pick up. If 15 PNMs came out and we wanted to give out 15 bids...great! If 15 PNMs came out and we wanted to give out 3 bids...great!

In contrast, SAI (at least on my campus) had a week's worth of events, including an interview and an audition!

KKPsi also does not have alumni initiation. Are there any other service or honorary GLOs that do? (such as SAI or PMA? what about AKPsi?)

I don't have a clue about AKPsi, but I know that Delta Sigma Pi participates in alumni initiation. My chapter is part-time students and we have had some people who were interested while in school because of jobs, family, etc. I contacted the national office and they said that it was definately something that DeltaSig participated in.

what's a smoker????? :confused:

ETA: in regards to a NPHC event. I reread my statement and I sounded like a dork so I added clarification.

For KKPsi, a smoker is basically a fancy word for informational meeting. I think it's tradition to call it that...you'll mostly find that fraternities use that word whereas sororities don't.

Now, as for the NPHC, I'm assuming it's going to be similar...but of course I could be wrong.

I think this is correct, although not all NPC sororities have alumnae initiation.

The general procedure for pursuing alumnae initiation with an NPC sorority seems more along the lines of how NPHC groups do it. A "PNAM" (potential new alumna member) who is not already friends with someone in the organization would do her research and decide which group to pursue since discretion is key here and it is commonly frowned upon to pursue more than one group at a time. She would probably contact someone at the HQ of the organization and then if all goes well, she would be put in touch with a local alumnae chapter so she could get to know them and they could get to know her. If all goes well there, she would be offered membership in the organization and then initiated. The whole process could take weeks or months or years -- there's no standard procedure and therefore it is different for everybody. Unlike with NPHC groups, if it doesn't work out with the first organization, she may later pursue a different one.

Until the day you cross, if you are trying to join Theta Nu Xi, you're considered an "aspirant." (It really irks me to hear young ladies saying that they "plan to join XYZ" - what's that about???) Beyond that, any names/titles/etc. are part of a private process.

I think it's correct to say that there is "total" at all schools with NPC groups; where total equals the maximum number of women a group can have. This isn't exactly set in stone though, as groups can surpass total through formal rush, and total itself can be changed.

Do you mean total for the NPHC groups that are on campus' that have NPC groups? Or do you mean that all NPC groups have total? I'm sorry - I got kind of confused by what you meant by your statement.

I know that when I came through in the fall of 1999 Pi Kappa Phi had an alumni initiate at our school....he was the father of one of the current members. As to how common of an occurance it is or if other NIC fraternities do this, I have no idea.

Re: the word "smoker"

It's used at my undergraduate school quite a bit for departmental parties for students, as well as general gatherings. For example, the engineering students might have a "pre formal smoker", usually held two weeks before the event. It's mostly for people to find dates.

The school can set a cap. I went to Spelman, and we had a 30 person cap. But, I would say it's mainly an HBCU thing.

Wow, now does Spelman say why there's a cap? Has this always been the case? Wasn't it a while before Spelman would even allow sororities on campus?

There wasn't a sorority cap at Spelman when I was a student there, so I can't speak to that, but Spelman did not have sororities on campus until the late 70's--1978 or 9 if I am remembering correctly. There were, however, sorority members on campus who joined at other schools. Spelman's presidents believed (and I tend to agree with them) that since "sisterhood" is a part of Spelman's culture there was no need to further divide that sisterhood with sororities.

Spelman's presidents had a good idea with that....

I graduated in '98. The cap was on paper, but hardly ever achieved (for other reasons I will not go into). Yes, sororities were not at Spelman for the above stated reason. Although, I was interested in joining a sorority, I think it was a very valid point. When I was there, we had a little under 2,000 women on campus. Two of the four sororities would have 200 women at rush. If all of the eligible women who attended rush (I should say, those that were tight--which was most of them), were accepted, the campus would be a mess.