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josh8o 04-06-2004 02:47 PM

consultants for your headquarters....
 
anyone been one? want to be one? or in the process of trying to be one?
i really want to be one of our educational leadership consultants (elc). and i had my first phone interview last week. it went really well, and they told me they were impressed with my application. so i was stoked. now i just have to wait to hear back if they want to fly me out to headquarters for a second interview.

PhiPsiRuss 04-06-2004 02:55 PM

Good luck! I was never an ELC, and I regret it.

dzandiloo 04-06-2004 04:46 PM

I was a chapter consultant for 92-93. Hardest job I ever had! But I learned an awful lot about my organization, myself, organizational politics & Greek life overall. Got to see the country (OK, the eastern part of it...never got farther west than St. CLoud State). Coming from a little school, it was an excellent experience b/c I got to see what it was like to belong to huge systems like Florida State and tiny systems w/no NPC like Mars Hill. Some of the highest highs & lowest lows I ever experienced, though...from colonizing a new chapter & bid-matching to quota several times, to visiting a chapter on the brink of closure. Very emotional, but priceless all the same.

Good luck to you!

AGDAlum 04-07-2004 09:41 AM

Re: consultants for your headquarters....
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by josh8o
[B]anyone been one? want to be one? or in the process of trying to be one?


Yes, 1974-75. It was wonderful!

XOMichelle 04-07-2004 05:21 PM

I have thought about it. However, I'm from a weak chapter and only heald one office so I don't think they'd take me. Also, I'm out of college now and I think they usually hire girls right out of school. It would be interesting though!
-M

Tom Earp 04-07-2004 05:32 PM

josh80, Good Luck Man, it will be an experience of your Life!:cool:

God if I had not been Married My Senior Year, i could have worked for the International! Hell, I would have gotten UNmarried for it if they let me!:D

Glitter650 04-07-2004 06:02 PM

I"m applying for next year !!!

ILLINIDZ2005 04-07-2004 06:13 PM

consultants :)
 
Hi! Im currrently a junior, and i have already sent my resume to our headquarters for consideration to be a consultant! I have heard it is an AMAZING experience and I think that if you are really dedicated to your organization than you will definitly enjoy the experience! Best of luck!

Kelly :)

Unregistered- 04-07-2004 06:20 PM

AGD has both a traveling Leadership Consultant and a Leadership Advisor--an alumna that attends graduate school where we have a chaper currently "struggling" or needing help.

At the end of my senior year I was very determined to be an LC. I wanted to help my Fraternity while traveling the country and Canada. I sent in my application and resume and awaited word on their decision.

However, an unfortunate situation of a personal nature happened, and I was forced to apologize and ask the powers that be to take my application out of the running. I was disappointed, but I think everything eventually worked out.

I do hope to apply for an LA position if and when I do return to graduate school. Hopefully it'll be at a campus that might be in need of a Leadership Advisor. :)

greeklawgirl 04-07-2004 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
AGD has both a traveling Leadership Consultant and a Leadership Advisor--an alumna that attends graduate school where we have a chaper currently "struggling" or needing help.

Just a minor correction to the otherwise stellar post of my sister: Leadership Advisors are not just assigned to chapters that are struggling. LAs may be assigned to *any* chapter that IHQ feels needs a little boost in any number of areas. In the same way that LAs can help a chapter that is stumbling to recover their footing, they can also help a good chapter become an outstanding chapter! :D

LAs are all about kicking our chapters up a notch to the next level! (With all due respect to Emeril, lol)

Erik P Conard 04-09-2004 09:06 PM

Fielders....
 
Field Secretary, Field Supervisor, Consultant, whatever the name.
I was one for TKE 1957-60. Visited 95 chapters, started 17...which I think is a record still standing. It was a wonderful,
low paying, but tremendous experience. I ended up with four
degrees, finished as a dean, but the field experience I got was
better'n all the other stuff. I met several field reps from many
other outfits, virtually all said the same. Aside from loving my Fraternity, it was the single best experience I ever had in life.
If you want to travel, broaden your horizons, do good for us all,
jump at it! It is a wonderful trek, and I have helped others do it,
a great preparation for life, sales and education.
Again...go for it...you will love it...or something is wrong...
Old Teke fielder...still playing fraternity and it's still great!

DolphinChicaDDD 04-09-2004 09:13 PM

I thought about being a FC...but somehow I don't think EO would want anyone from my chapter:p

I DO want to be a recruitment specialist. Call me weird, but I LOVE recruitment. All of it. The planning, the parties, the voting, the drama- EVERYTHING.

But that is not paid.:(

DeltAlum 04-09-2004 09:16 PM

I am very pleased that a former Chapter President from one of the chapters I served as Division Vice President is now a Delt Chapter Consultant and is having a wonderful time.

I had an e-mail from him earlier this week reporting that he had visited my home chapter (Beta) at Ohio University and that things are going well there.

A former president at one of my other chapters served as a chapter consultant for two years, and also loved it.

Go for it.

hannahgirl 04-09-2004 10:40 PM

I applied to be a Collegaite Development Consultant for DG this year. I was one of the 20 women to be offered an interview in Columbus in February. Only 10 women are chosen. Unfortunately, I wasn't one of them. But the experience of interviewing and meeting the other candidates was one in itself. I would always encourage someone who feels strongly about their organization to apply for this type of position. I actually have a friend who has been chosen as a FIJI field secretary for the next two years. I told him that I'd live vicariously through him since he's going to be doing what I wanted to do!

josh8o 04-13-2004 03:00 PM

good news...and bad news...

i got an email from the man in charge if interviewing the consultants for my headquarters. i have been selected for a second interview, and they need my availability because they want to fly me to our headquarters for the interview. the bad news is that i have had some unforseen incidents happen (none witch i care to discuss...so please dont ask) and i may not be elligible. i called my headquarters today and they said they would discuss it and get back to me.... so keep your fingers crossed!!

xp2k 04-13-2004 03:11 PM

I hope everything works out for you.

If its meant to be, you can make it happen :cool:

TriDeltaGal 04-13-2004 09:09 PM

Good Luck Josh! My fingers are crossed for you!

josh8o 04-16-2004 03:26 PM

SCORE!!! i still get to fly out to my headquarters for the 2nd interview! i am so excited. i have wanted this so bad. the only think is that it is in the middle of my finals week...so i am in the process of rescheduling a final...lol...just like fall semester, while everyone at sdsu is studying and taking finals josh is out on some trip (fall- paris, spring-indianapolis)

33girl 04-16-2004 03:46 PM

Josh, that is such great news!!!! :D Good luck!!!

ISUKappa 04-16-2004 04:24 PM

That's great news!! Good luck! :D

And not to bring you down, but if you don't get it, remember there are plenty of other ways to serve your fraternity! I was crushed when I wasn't chosen to be a TC for my fraternity (I made it to the final interviews), but I've since found many other ways to stay involved.

TriDeltaGal 04-16-2004 04:44 PM

Congrats and Good Luck!

Tom Earp 04-16-2004 06:03 PM

Josh, if you get the position, always call me or Erik Conard! He was there I wasnt, just a want to be!

But, EC and I have known each other for more years than most of you were born!:o

But, is it hard, Yes, is it easy, no, is it fullfilling, yes!:)

Hey Dude, If You get the chance, do it!:cool:

Down the road, it will make a lot of difference in you life, Right E C!

You will learn more there than anyother time of your life!:cool:

g41965 04-23-2004 10:42 PM

I talked to the the Ex. Dir. about being a consultant but did not pursue opportunity, I went to law school and got married. I think you have a great oppurtunity good luck!

Glitter650 04-23-2004 10:45 PM

I just sent in all of my application materials to national today keep your fingers crossed for me !

josh8o 04-24-2004 04:51 AM

i just found out today that i need to make a 20 minute presentation infront of my national board of directors at the 2nd interview...i'm nervous as hell!!

AGDee 04-24-2004 05:35 AM

You need to remember that the board of directors are your brothers, not some group of intimidating men, but your brothers. Smile, take a deep breath and be yourself!

AGDLynn 04-24-2004 06:02 PM

What I remember most about instructor school training.

The audience doesn't know your script so if you happen to forget something, keep going and act like whatever you say next is supposed to be in the speech.


Best of luck!:D

KDAngel 05-05-2004 09:43 PM

One of our sisters who's graduating Saturday is going to a consultant for KD this next year. She's an AMAZING woman and she racked up awards at our last convention. I wouldn't be suprised if she was a future national president for KD.

Tom Earp 05-06-2004 05:29 PM

Josh, where you at dude??????

Everyone is interested!!!!

All we can do at this point is wish you the very best of luck!:cool:

polarpi 05-06-2004 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by josh8o
i just found out today that i need to make a 20 minute presentation infront of my national board of directors at the 2nd interview...i'm nervous as hell!!
Josh, after having met you, I'm sure you'll do an awesome job with the presentation at the interview....don't be nervous! Best of luck, and we're all looking forward to hearing what happened, regardless of the outcome!

josh8o 05-06-2004 11:05 PM

hey
i am currently working on my presentation...i am doing in on recruitment. i fly to indianapolis on monday, and my interview is on tuesday the 11th.

SGill4613 05-07-2004 10:28 AM

I'd like to become a consultant too...what kind of qualifications do you need?

AXWhoah 05-12-2004 01:07 PM

Hey Josh my friend Savin is a Phi Psi also and will be in Indianapolis at the same time for an interview too. Maybe you'll meet him!

kwazi19 05-12-2004 06:30 PM

i had posted this a couple of days ago on on the general chat forum under careers and employment....

i accepted a position to be a field representative for the next 2 years with my fraternity - Sigma Alpha Mu

AOIIalum 05-12-2004 07:52 PM

Congratulations, Kwazi! Get ready for the experience of a lifetime!

kwazi19 05-12-2004 08:15 PM

Thank you..... i'm really excited for this opportunity... allowing me to stay active and involved in the fraternity as well as the opportunity to travel..

mommag2 05-12-2004 08:52 PM

Josh,

Where are you and what, if anything, has happened.

suntzu1963 05-13-2004 03:01 AM

:confused:

I have a question for the board: what exactly is a consultant? Is that position(s) = National Officer? I would love some clarification since I have noticed the differences in structure and usage of certain terminology between IFC/NPC and NPHC organizations...

Thank you in advance.
:)

33girl 05-13-2004 10:19 AM

suntzu,

A consultant (they have slightly varying names) is a recent graduate who travels from chapter to chapter and acts as a representative of the national organization. They help the chapters with rush, officer transition and things like that. They do this for one year.

Some groups also have residential-type consultants that stay with one chapter for an extended period of time. They often stay with colonies that are on their way to becoming a chapter or sometimes chapters that are in a rebuilding phase.

PhiPsiRuss 05-13-2004 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
suntzu,

A consultant (they have slightly varying names) is a recent graduate who travels from chapter to chapter and acts as a representative of the national organization. They help the chapters with rush, officer transition and things like that. They do this for one year.

More specifically, they represent the operational side, and not the governing side of the fraternity. Consultants are paid staff. In the case of Phi Psi, which is where Josh applied, consultants rarely provide direct help for rush, as that is counter productive. They do perform recruitment workshops. Consultants are rarely, if ever, involved with officer transitions, but do help with operational training.

The full title for Phi Kappa Psi is Educational Leadership Consultant (ELC), and this is more than semantics. Part of the job description involves activities that are educational, and therefore, part of the consultants salary and expenses are underwritten by our Endowment Fund.

A better way of looking at it is like this; ELCs either visit chapters with no known major problems (most visits) or visit chapters with problems (rare, but it happens.) Also, one ELC will be on the ground for pro-active extension projects to help our Director of Expansion.

In the case of visiting a chapter with no known problems, the visit happens once per year, and usually lasts 3-4 days. The ELC will visit with relevant administration officials, local involved alumni, and, of course, the chapter. A chapter evaluation is done covering a broad range of chapter operations. Also, workshops are performed for the chapters based on each chapter's needs.

In the case of problem chapters, we send staff based on need. Sometimes this involves an ELC. On rare occasion, it may involve sending our Executive Director. It depends on the problem.


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