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The1calledTKE 03-31-2004 11:55 PM

15 yr old grl from pittsburgh charge with child porn for sending nude pics of herself
 
PITTSBURGH - A 15-year-old girl has been arrested for taking nude photographs of her self and posting them on the Internet, police said.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/ne...04-273371.html

PhiPsiRuss 04-01-2004 12:04 AM

What's her e-mail address?














J/K:p

But seriously, charging her with child porn is ridiculous. Its of herself. She needs counseling, not a wrap sheet. If anyone needs to be the subject of an investigation, its her guardians.

James 04-01-2004 12:07 AM

The police need to lose their jobs . . they ARRESTED her?

Its a parenting issue.

And they are charging her with felonies . . . . OH and look at the charges . .

She has been charged with sexually abusing herself . . Damn glad I wasn't arrested for masturbation as a teen . ..


"She has been charged with sexual abuse of children, possession of child pornography and dissemination of child pornography."

sigtau305 04-01-2004 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
The police need to lose their jobs . . they ARRESTED her?

Its a parenting issue.

And they are charging her with felonies . . . . OH and look at the charges . .

She has been charged with sexually abusing herself . . Damn glad I wasn't arrested for masturbation as a teen . ..


"She has been charged with sexual abuse of children, possession of child pornography and dissemination of child pornography."

Big Brother is watching us.

DWAlphaGam 04-01-2004 04:24 PM

Same thing happened at a school where my friend teaches, only it was 2 girls who were in 8th grade.

Kids these days scare me.

_Lisa_ 04-01-2004 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Its a parenting issue.
Can't really blame the parents for something they may have not known was happening...

decadence 04-01-2004 10:47 PM

She's been charged with abusing herself??? :eek: :eek: Are the police there insane or just plain STUPID?!

decadence 04-01-2004 10:51 PM

Screw a mere one post on this.

So she is now what, a registered SEX OFFENDER???! :mad: Damn these police should not have left the academy. Hell shouldn't be allowed to leave padded cells.

PhiPsiRuss 04-01-2004 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crzychx
Can't really blame the parents for something they may have not known was happening...
Yes you can. Its a parent's job to know what the children are doing. Not knowing might be negligence.

James 04-01-2004 11:03 PM

i didn't mean it was the parents fault per se . . but its an issue for them to discipline her . . not the government.

Quote:

Originally posted by crzychx
Can't really blame the parents for something they may have not known was happening...

AGDee 04-01-2004 11:19 PM

The article didn't say she was charged for abusing herself. It could be based on who she was sending pictures to.

I would say therapy would be the answer here.

Dee

James 04-01-2004 11:29 PM

Would she need therapy at 19? If not then maybe she just knows she likes sex and stuff . . .

Shrug

PhiPsiRuss 04-01-2004 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Would she need therapy at 19? If not then maybe she just knows she likes sex and stuff . . .

Shrug

Maybe she's just a child prodigy.

_Lisa_ 04-02-2004 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Yes you can. Its a parent's job to know what the children are doing. Not knowing might be negligence.
That girl is 15 years old. Not 10. By the time a child is 15 they are doing most things on their own. A parent should never have to breathe down their child's neck, nor be responsible for things they could not possibly have known about.

krazy 04-02-2004 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crzychx
Can't really blame the parents for something they may have not known was happening...

Are you effing kidding me? I hope you are joking.

It is their responsibility to know what is happening.

Her parents should be held responsible, and she should have to attend therapy

KillarneyRose 04-02-2004 03:01 PM

That article is rather vague and choppy. It feels like things have been left out. It says that in some of the photos she is performing sexual acts. Maybe there are other people in the photos who were identified as children.

Although that is really sickening so I hope not.

_Lisa_ 04-02-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by krazy
Are you effing kidding me? I hope you are joking.

It is their responsibility to know what is happening.

Her parents should be held responsible, and she should have to attend therapy


Of course I'm not kidding. I hope you are joking! I can't believe that you wouldn't hold her to her actions! Like I said previously-she is 15 years old! She is almost an adult! She should be held responsible!

How many things did you get in trouble for when you were a child? Are your parents still responsible for your actions? :rolleyes:

PhiPsiRuss 04-02-2004 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crzychx
Are your parents still responsible for your actions? :rolleyes:
Thy stopped being legally responsible for me when I turned 18, not 15. Unless you live in third world nation, the same applies to you, and to this 15 year old girl.

Odds are that her parents were AWOL, and yes, that makes them very responsible. Also, in my opinion, any parent who is too stupid to install software that would have prevented this, does not deserve legal custody. And sterilization should not be mandated, but certainly offered at no charge to the absentee parent. While we're at it, lets give the 15 year old a voucher for free sterilization for when she turns 18.

_Lisa_ 04-02-2004 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Thy stopped being legally responsible for me when I turned 18, not 15. Unless you live in third world nation, the same applies to you, and to this 15 year old girl.
Not true. If this was true we wouldn't be convicting minors for their actions in the United States. It happens all the time. I just read about one case this morning. A 17 year old in Illinois beat a child w/ a bat & is being convicted of it. Now, w/ your theory, you would basically be saying that its his parents fault. I think your theory is flawed.

FeeFee 04-02-2004 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crzychx
Not true. If this was true we wouldn't be convicting minors for their actions in the United States. It happens all the time. I just read about one case this morning. A 17 year old in Illinois beat a child w/ a bat & is being convicted of it. Now, w/ your theory, you would basically be saying that its his parents fault. I think your theory is flawed.
But if the parents of the victim wanted to bring a civil lawsuit against the 17year old, guess who would have to shell out any money - the parents. Legally there are many instances whereas the parents are held liable for the actions of their MINOR children (ie, vandalism of property). The theory is not completely flawed.

PhiPsiRuss 04-02-2004 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crzychx
Not true. If this was true we wouldn't be convicting minors for their actions in the United States. It happens all the time. I just read about one case this morning. A 17 year old in Illinois beat a child w/ a bat & is being convicted of it. Now, w/ your theory, you would basically be saying that its his parents fault. I think your theory is flawed.
That depends on the state. By your theory, it sounds like a parent can throw the kids on the street at age 15. I think your theory is flawed.

valkyrie 04-02-2004 08:08 PM

I'm so glad I'm not having kids.

_Lisa_ 04-02-2004 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
That depends on the state. By your theory, it sounds like a parent can throw the kids on the street at age 15. I think your theory is flawed.
Well let me clear that up for you. While I nailed your (flawed) theory right on the head...you misunderstood mine. I said people should be responsible for their own actions, especially when they are old enough to know better.

I think thats pretty clear now, right?

James 04-02-2004 09:32 PM

Weeeeell KilarneyRose . . . if the kids were prepubescent performing sex acts that would be sick . . if its other 15 year old kids . . . its just high school :p

But I agree the article is choppy . . and looks designed to be sensational . . they use a bunch if buzzwords.

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
That article is rather vague and choppy. It feels like things have been left out. It says that in some of the photos she is performing sexual acts. Maybe there are other people in the photos who were identified as children.

Although that is really sickening so I hope not.


PhiPsiRuss 04-02-2004 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crzychx
Well let me clear that up for you. While I nailed your (flawed) theory right on the head...you misunderstood mine. I said people should be responsible for their own actions, especially when they are old enough to know better.

I think thats pretty clear now, right?

It would be if you held your arguments to the same standard. A 15 year old is not an adult, and only in extremely rare circumstances, is that 15 year old equally liable in the judicial system. So rare is it, that it could be considered statistically insignificant. You're basing your argument on something that can only be measured in basis points, which basically means that you are just being stubborn.

When 15 year olds are subject to the same penalties as 18+ year olds, more than 1% of the time, get back to me.

_Lisa_ 04-03-2004 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
It would be if you held your arguments to the same standard. A 15 year old is not an adult, and only in extremely rare circumstances, is that 15 year old equally liable in the judicial system. So rare is it, that it could be considered statistically insignificant. You're basing your argument on something that can only be measured in basis points, which basically means that you are just being stubborn.

When 15 year olds are subject to the same penalties as 18+ year olds, more than 1% of the time, get back to me.

I'm not being stubborn, I'm being realistic. Just because not every case makes major headlines doesn't mean that it doesn't happen A LOT. Just as the case I spoke about earlier. The 17 year old who beat another child w/ a bat. It happened in Illinois, I didn't know about it until I just happened upon the article. I bet you also didn't know about it. I bet there are hundreds more cases of minors being prosecuted as adults because they are old enough to know better.

Optimist Prime 04-04-2004 11:35 PM

wow...and just when I thought it couldn't get anyworse.


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