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JohnsDGsweethrt 03-31-2004 06:54 PM

colleges with degrees in social work
 
hi! can anyone help me. i am doing a search for my husband and i just feel like i'm not using the right search engine. does anyone know of where i might be able to find a listing of all of the colleges that have degrees in social work? the state or college doesn't matter. thanks!

Lady Pi Phi 04-01-2004 03:24 PM

I know Wilfred Laurier University in Waterloo, Ontario Canada has a Social Work program.
But that might not help you.

Your best bet is to look at the universities that interest your husband and check too see if they have the program.

MooseGirl 04-01-2004 03:59 PM

I think there's aguide out there called "peterson's" that indexes colleges and universities across North america...my library has one "Peterson's college & university almanac : a compact guide to higher education."
they usually have a subject index for programs...

maybe try www.universities.com as well


*edited to add URL *
http://www.universities.com/Search/D...e/Social_Work/

FeeFee 04-01-2004 05:29 PM

Schools in NYC that offer programs in Social Work include:

Columbia University
Hunter College
New York University
Fordham University

JohnsDGsweethrt 04-01-2004 06:45 PM

thanks guys! i was able to find exactly what i needed. i just happen to stumble across it! guess i got lucky. thanks for the info though :)

Munchkin03 04-01-2004 09:07 PM

The University of Texas has a good program in Social Work, as does the University of California-Berkeley.

cutiepatootie 04-08-2004 07:16 PM

Cal State San Bernadino does and if your lucky the county of San Bernadino will pay for your education to get your social work degree and work for them.

University fo Akransas has a social work program as well

_Opi_ 05-27-2004 12:45 PM

Wayne State University

It has one of the top programs in the states (or so I've been told). You can get finish your masters' in 10 months.

winneythepooh7 05-31-2004 05:55 PM

Are you looking for a BSW or MSW program? I received my MSW from Yeshiva University in Manhattan. They also have the summer block program where students can do their field placement all year wherever they live and come 2 NYC for 3 summers to complete their courses. The website is www.yu/edu/wurzweiler, and NO you don't have to be Jewish to go here (You all would be surprised how many people ask me that).

Allison, MSW, NYC

lilcatwngs 07-02-2004 07:23 PM

I'm a social work major and was wondering if there are any others or graduated members who could tell me if they enjoy it and if it is worth it. Hugs, Katie

winneythepooh7 07-03-2004 12:10 AM

PM me with whatever questions you may have. While some GC'ers may not think so I consider myself an expert in the field, especially mental health and adults.

amgn253 07-12-2004 01:08 PM

Warning- Venting ahead!

I applied to an MSW program for the Fall of 2004. I found out in April that I was on the waiting list. I called the school a few weeks ago and was told hardly anyone is turning down their offer of admission, therefore us on the waiting list are pretty much SOL. The quarter doesn't start until late September, so I haven't been officially told that there is no space for me, but I am preparing myself for that to be the case.

I am really disappointed. I really wanted to begin my MSW program. I was supposed to begin my MSW in the Fall of 2003 (IOW: I was accepted at another school), but a move prevented that and I had to apply at a different school, the one I am currently on the waiting list for. This is the only MSW program in the state. I feel sad and embarrassed that I might have to tell people I didn't make the cut.

I am also checking out another school where I could get an MA in counseling, but I'm not sure. I just don't know what to do.

Thanks for letting me vent and I appreciate any suggestions and feedback.

winneythepooh7 07-12-2004 01:18 PM

Hi! I would still try to obtain your MSW, I think it is a better degree to have then counseling. Feel free to PM me and I can elaborate more on this. Also, another idea since there is only one SW school in your state, look into schools that may offer a program where you do your internship in your area for main schol year and attend classes on their campus in the summertime (if you can swing this option). The school I attended has this program (it's called the summer block program). The school I attended for my MSW is Yeshiva University in Manhattan. www.yu.edu/wurzweiler (no you don't have to be Jewish to go there). This is also a great way to "experience" NYC:D Please pm me though with any questions/vents/etc. you might have. Also is MOVING out of state an option?

PsychTau 07-12-2004 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by amgn253
I am also checking out another school where I could get an MA in counseling, but I'm not sure. I just don't know what to do.
Sorry you haven't gotten the affirmative from your school yet. Hopefully things will work out for you.

What's concerning you about the MA in counseling? What type of job and what populations are you interested in working with once you get your degree?

PsychTau

amgn253 07-12-2004 04:47 PM

Unfortunately, I can't move out of state. My husband and I both have good jobs and we need to stay in the area.

I am currently a case manager for the elderly. I love my job. I help them arrange services, make sure they are living comfortably and safely in their home, and make referrals when needed. Coordinating services to me seems more like social work. When I think of getting an MA in counseling, I think of being in sessions with clients helping them work through issues, not that I wouldn't be interested in that.

I enjoy working with the elderly but I am also interested in school social work/school counseling.

Have I thoroughly confused everyone? Welcome to my world. J/K. ;) Seriously, I do appreciate everyone's help.

PsychTau 07-12-2004 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by amgn253
I am currently a case manager for the elderly. I love my job. I help them arrange services, make sure they are living comfortably and safely in their home, and make referrals when needed. Coordinating services to me seems more like social work. When I think of getting an MA in counseling, I think of being in sessions with clients helping them work through issues, not that I wouldn't be interested in that.
Well....I have nothing else to say except that you nailed that right on the head!!!! I have an MS in Counseling Psych, and maybe it's just me....but if I were doing case mgmt services I'd feel like I wasn't using my degree. You can be just as qualified with a counseling degree...but the SW fits much better.

Can you take a class or two at the SW school as a non degree seeking student that might help you get in (especially if you get A's)?

PsychTau

IowaStatePhiPsi 07-13-2004 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lilcatwngs
I'm a social work major and was wondering if there are any others or graduated members who could tell me if they enjoy it and if it is worth it. Hugs, Katie
My sister and my mother are social workers. It can be stressful at times but both enjoy their work.
My mother has her BSW from Valporaiso University and her MSW from University of Iowa. She just resigned from working with Hospice as a Bereavement (sp?) Counselor.
My sister got her BSW from Wartburg College. She has worked with after-school programs for troubled youth and has worked with programs assisting Bosnian and Serbian immigrants to settle in the Des Moines area. Currently she's working for the Salvation Army and works with Sudanese immigrants settling in the Omaha area.

winneythepooh7 07-13-2004 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by PsychTau
Well....I have nothing else to say except that you nailed that right on the head!!!! I have an MS in Counseling Psych, and maybe it's just me....but if I were doing case mgmt services I'd feel like I wasn't using my degree. You can be just as qualified with a counseling degree...but the SW fits much better.

Can you take a class or two at the SW school as a non degree seeking student that might help you get in (especially if you get A's)?

PsychTau

PsychTau has made some really excellent points. I was a Clinical Social Work major but decided upon graduation that I don't want to do strictly "therapy" at this point in my life. It is more rewarding to me to be out there in the field actually linking my clients up to services to better their lives instead of just sitting in an office all day listening to them. Eventually I want to do this, but not right now. With an MSW you learn about a lot of different theory to work with difficult clients and how to link it your practice. I am sure it is similar in counseling. Depending on what part of the country you reside in, it may not matter what you get your degree in. Here in NY, it is more worthwhile to get an MSW because most jobs in the field are for MSW's. The suggestion about trying to take classes non-matric is also great. One of my former supervisors had her heart set on NYU. It is really difficult to get into their MSW program because there are only a limited amount of spaces. She got turned down once but took classes non-matric and got in her next time around. I'd say keep trying to get in. Keep working in the field and getting experience. Once you DO get in things are gonna get crazy and you are going to miss all your free time. But don't give up. Things seem to fall into place at the right time in our lives. Good luck!!!!

winneythepooh7 07-13-2004 08:28 AM

if you are a SW junky like I am and love discussion about the field, yahoogroups has a lot of wonderful SW listservs. Just go to yahoogroups.com and put in "social work". There is also a forum there for SW students. Have a great day!

PsychTau 07-13-2004 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by winneythepooh7
With an MSW you learn about a lot of different theory to work with difficult clients and how to link it your practice. I am sure it is similar in counseling. Depending on what part of the country you reside in, it may not matter what you get your degree in.
I got my degree in Arkansas, where the U of A has a large SW program, and UCA has a Counseling Psych/School Psych program (they both turn out LAC/LPCs). We can get pretty competitive for jobs between the two groups, but a large part of that is politics between the two schools. (The Counseling Psych and School Psych programs go farther than the Counseling programs in that it teaches us how to give, score, and interpret psychological tests. It leads to a Licensed Psychological Examiner).

Probably the biggest difference I've noticed between the two degrees is that counseling prepares you to focus on the individual. Sure, you take family therapy classes and group counseling classes, but a large portion of the theory and techniques focus on the individual and what's going on with them personally. Social Work seems to focus more on the individual and how they interact with others....things like getting them connected with services in their community, school based programs, etc.

Of course there's always crossover, and everyone learns the basic theories....but when I've talked with SW students, their assignments seem to focus on observing clients interactions with others and their environment, while my assigments tended to focus on the individual.

Anyway, that's what I've seen here in AR....but of course each area can be different.

PsychTau

amgn253 07-14-2004 02:44 AM

Taking a class a quarter as a "non-admitted" student is a possibility at the school I applied to, so I have that as an option. The thing that sucks is non-admitted students aren't eligible for financial aid, so I would have to pay for the class out of pocket. It would be about $750. Yikes!

I'm trying to stay positive, but getting my options ready if things don't turn out the way I want. There are 11 weeks until the quarter starts, so I still have a little bit of time to hope that "A spot opened up for you!" letter shows up. :)

FeeFee 07-14-2004 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PsychTau
Probably the biggest difference I've noticed between the two degrees is that counseling prepares you to focus on the individual. Sure, you take family therapy classes and group counseling classes, but a large portion of the theory and techniques focus on the individual and what's going on with them personally. Social Work seems to focus more on the individual and how they interact with others....things like getting them connected with services in their community, school based programs, etc.
PsychTau

I'm currently working on my Master's in School Counseling. As part of the program, I have to take 2 fieldwork placements at a school and 1 at an agency (non-school).

The purpose of the fieldwork at an agency is to give us a broader view and knowledge of the different social sciences. Besides, as school counselors, we would have to spend some time referring a student and/or their parents to services that are outside of our scope of work.

In NYC, I noticed that having a MSW is very profitable...

winneythepooh7 07-17-2004 01:50 PM

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In NYC, I noticed that having a MSW is very profitable... [/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah except the field is totally flooded right now. And agencies want to pay less and less so they will hire less-qualified people. The licensing law is going into effect this September so I hope that changes this problem in our field. I know that people in private practice make good money but I have awhile to go before I want-and am able-to do that. I think that in order to provide good services to clients of any population a BSW should be a minimum requirement and with therapy, nothing less then an MSW.


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