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astroAPhi 03-27-2004 03:49 AM

Florida Tech Panhellenic Extension
 
So I just found out that some time next month, Alpha Xi Delta and Phi Sigma Sigma will be down here to present to Florida Tech's Panhellenic. We have a local sorority here that would like to associate with a national group. How exciting! I'm so disappointed that I won't be a collegiate for this.

ThetaPrincess24 03-27-2004 11:22 AM

What other groups are on Florida Tech's campus?

pinkyphimu 03-27-2004 11:31 AM

how exciting! good luck to both groups!

smiley21 03-27-2004 12:27 PM

Florida Tech sororities

1) Alpha Phi
2) Gamma Phi Beta

adpiucf 03-27-2004 02:42 PM

For a moment there, I was like huh? Before the name was changed to U of Central Florida, WE were Florida Tech! :)

Good luck with the expansion!

WCUgirl 03-27-2004 03:03 PM

Whoo hoo! Good luck to both groups. Please keep us updated!

breathesgelatin 03-27-2004 10:56 PM

Good luck to both groups!

Where in FL is Melbourne?

WCUgirl 03-27-2004 11:24 PM

It's on the East coast - south of Orlando.

ETA: here is a link to the page with their sororities: http://www.fit.edu/activities/greeklife/sororities.html

Tom Earp 03-28-2004 03:15 PM

Kansas Boy was there for BN, LXA Founders Day 2001 as a Guest Speaker.

So good to see Greeks Expanding on FIT!:)

astroAPhi 03-29-2004 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by breathesgelatin
Good luck to both groups!

Where in FL is Melbourne?

40 miles from Kennedy Space Center. Yay for watching launches from campus. :D

pirepresent 03-29-2004 10:29 PM

Well, we actually have a pretty strong contingent in Florida, although many of our "larger" chapters closed in the 80s/90's, including the University of Florida and University of Miami.

However, the Florida Phi Sig alumnae network is very strong, and we will also have representation from some of our collegiate chapters there, including our very own FAUNikki's chapter. This is obviously a great opportunity for both Phi Sigma Sigma and Alpha Xi Delta. FIT is a great campus and I know we are most definetly looking forward to the presentation!

AlphaXiGirl 03-29-2004 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adpiucf
I'm just speaking from what I have seen of Alpha Xi Delta's ability. They came on less than 10 years ago at UCF and are a powerhouse of dedicated leaders and great sisters!
Awwww, what an awesome compliment! Thank you for the vote of confidence. I've been very lucky to know some of our UCF sisters and they have always been impressive.

This is a great opportunity for either group.

Good luck to us both!

WCUgirl 03-30-2004 01:31 AM

One of my best friends from high school was an AZD at UCF! :D

astroAPhi 03-30-2004 12:19 PM

Alumni support for existing chapters could admittedly be better. Alpha Phi at least has tons of local alumnae, but few, if any, are involved with alumnae chapters. The closest one is Orlando/Winter Park. However, next year we are going to try and start an Ivy Connection for the Space Coast area (apparently there used to be one, but it no longer exists) to change that. Our new CA is very gung-ho about it, and I'm extremely willing to help her. However, our Tampa Bay and Jacksonville Alumnae chapters look out for us and are always sending us cute little gifts. We love those ladies so much!

The Greek Life advisor here is an Alpha Xi Delta, but I've never heard her mention anything about an Alpha Xi alumnae group. She has mentioned Alumnae Panhellenic, because she wants my big sister and myself to go to meetings with her once I graduate because she's the youngest one there!

I personally see a lot of positives for each group. I honestly can't say which I think the local group would be more interested in.

SmartBlondeGPhB 03-30-2004 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
Alumni support for existing chapters could admittedly be better. Alpha Phi at least has tons of local alumnae, but few, if any, are involved with alumnae chapters. The closest one is Orlando/Winter Park. However, next year we are going to try and start an Ivy Connection for the Space Coast area (apparently there used to be one, but it no longer exists) to change that. Our new CA is very gung-ho about it, and I'm extremely willing to help her. However, our Tampa Bay and Jacksonville Alumnae chapters look out for us and are always sending us cute little gifts. We love those ladies so much!

I ask this because I heard the comment (for the first time) at our new APH meeting last Sunday.

Does the lack of alumnae support have anything to do with the "snowbird" phenomenon?

We have had a Space Coast Alumnae Chapter for about 5 years now and as far as I know they are going pretty well.

adpiucf 03-31-2004 05:36 PM

I'm bumping this thread up. Please see http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=48762 about discretion regarding expansion. Feel free to chime in.

I posted in this thread recently. I said that Alpha Xi Delta had a strong chapter at a nearby university and that they're great girls. I also said that I didn't know much about Phi Sig's represenation in Central Florida. I also said that the existing chapters at FIT are under-represented in Central Florida, as there weren't many chapters in that area.

Ironically, the above thread about discretion revealed that some were offended by the FIT thread, this thread. I then realized that my comments must have appeared that I was biased toward Alpha Xi. I deleted my original post in this thread.

I didn't receive any PM's or comments asking me about my post. But you know what: I'm sorry. I'd really like to apologize to people for hurt feelings, whether intentional or no, if they feel hurt, for posting my opinions on Greek Life in Central Florida.

Apparently, I have just learned that the moderators thought I was very out of line with the aforementioned post that I deleted on my own, without anyone asking, and posted about my comments in their mod forum. Moderators, I don't know exactly what you wrote or said about my comments, but please, can someone please let me know if you're upset before you go around debating my writings?

So, I'd like to ask all fellow Greek Chatters, if you don't like what I post, here or in future, please PM me and let me make amends. I'm not a bully. I am a fellow Greek and I care about your opinions and your feelings. I would hope you also care about mine.

Thanks.

Tom Earp 03-31-2004 05:44 PM

My Pleasure to answer you POST!:D

I give a A ++ for it!:cool:

While the Previous Poster made comments that were to the best of her knowledge, there is really not a reason to get in such a snit over it!:eek:

I am sure, that all she was doing was sharing her knlowdege from what she might know!

Having gone back and reread all posts of the Threads, I saw nothing so bad for a person to get condemnd!

Everyone has opinions and that is just hers from knowledge she has!:D

Glitter650 03-31-2004 06:02 PM

I really don't think anyone was THAT upset about your previous posts... I think that the other thread was just started so that it DOESN'T get completely out of hand in the future.
I can say when I read your post, as a Phi Sig, I was thinking to myself... "does she know how many alum we have in the area ?... because honestly, I can tell you where we have chapters in that area and Florida in general.... but I can't tell you how many would come to support a new chapter there and I AM a Phi Sig... but I wasnt mad or anything... not a super big thing... but I do thank you for your post it is very Panhellenic of you :D

shadokat 03-31-2004 06:06 PM

Nobody got condemned. Read an entire thread before you assume.

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
My Pleasure to answer you POST!:D

I give a A ++ for it!:cool:

While the Previous Poster made comments that were to the best of her knowledge, there is really not a reason to get in such a snit over it!:eek:

I am sure, that all she was doing was sharing her knlowdege from what she might know!

Having gone back and reread all posts of the Threads, I saw nothing so bad for a person to get condemnd!

Everyone has opinions and that is just hers from knowledge she has!:D


Tom Earp 03-31-2004 06:55 PM

Maybe it was just trading Spit?:D

Denounce someone/something then lets throw the gauntlet down!:D

There was a poor Horse who carried a Fair Naked Maiden who had a cause, It was Killed!:o

The Fair Maiden Who Rode The Horse was spared! Why?

Oh, Her Name Was Not Marian!:p

SmartBlondeGPhB 03-31-2004 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Glitter650
I really don't think anyone was THAT upset about your previous posts... I think that the other thread was just started so that it DOESN'T get completely out of hand in the future.
I can say when I read your post, as a Phi Sig, I was thinking to myself... "does she know how many alum we have in the area ?... because honestly, I can tell you where we have chapters in that area and Florida in general.... but I can't tell you how many would come to support a new chapter there and I AM a Phi Sig... but I wasnt mad or anything... not a super big thing... but I do thank you for your post it is very Panhellenic of you :D

I would have to agree with that statement as well (since our alumnae support was also brought into question).

However, I got thinking about my own chapter (at a small school) and really have to question why alumnae support is as important as people make it sound. And no, I am NOT referring to a lagre school (so don't bring it up).

My chapter didn't have alumnae support for god knows how many years (if ever really) until a few years and there is still only a handful af alumnae and yet we are one of the top groups on campus. And even now, they would prefer to do it all themselves.

I'm not disagreeing that alumnae support is important, just that a chapter can be successful without it. I think alumnae support is good for building future members who value the lifetime commitment.

astroAPhi 03-31-2004 08:01 PM

Well at this point, after some pissy replies, I'm wondering if this thread should die. So far all I've really seen are a bunch of misunderstandings about existing chapters and possible future chapters.

I know that Gamma Phi Beta has an existing alumnae chapter, and that they definitely love their alumnae. I see girls who have graduated come back to visit, and girls who stay local sometimes come out to events. But their alumnae aren't a huge, overwhelming presence, just like ours aren't. I would say, however, that because of their alumnae chapter, their alumnae are a little more organized than ours. But hopefully with next year, we will have a more organized local alumnae base as well.

Gamma Phi Beta was installed at Florida Tech in 1981, and Alpha Phi was installed in 1990. (Sigma Kappa was also here from some time after 1981 to 1997, in case anyone was wondering.) Combine that with a very small female population until the last 6 years or so (and even then, it's 5:2 in the guys's favor), and you'll see that we couldn't possibly have the enormous alumnae base that large universities have. Total has been 40 since at least 1990, and like I mentioned, 2003 was the first time anyone has hit it.

However, I do know that Alpha Phi has some sweet older alumnae from FSU that live in Brevard county. :) I'm not sure if there were any other chapters in Florida, but I know we have several alumnae chapters in Florida, just none within about an hour's drive of here.

ETA: I think that's where the snowbird thing ties in. There's a lot of alumnae chapters clustered near big cities such as Orlando or Tampa, but Melbourne and Brevard county simply isn't that big.

Glitter650 03-31-2004 08:01 PM

I agree... alum support isn't all its cracked up to be IMO.... it's not like all 100 (or however many million) alum in the area are needed anyway... only a handful... who are dedicated.
I'm sure greeklawgirl can tell us exactly how much support is needed as she was one of those "alum supporters" of a new AGD colony I think last year (maybe two ?) that just got chartered.

greeklawgirl 03-31-2004 10:45 PM

Hmmm...well, the answer to Glitter650's question is yes and no. You don't need hundreds of alumnae to make a colony a success, but it certainly doesn't hurt. And I do believe that it takes more than a handful of alumnae, because only having a handful is a guaranteed way to burn those women out.

Alpha Gamma Delta's newest chapter is located in an area where we didn't have any active chapters nearby, so to some people that might have been interpreted as a sign of "weakness." However, what an third party wouldn't know is that Alpha Gam does have over 2,000 alumnae in the area. We also had two members of our International Council and two members of our Volunteer Service Team nearby. Alpha Gam also committed a Leadership Consultant to the colony throughout their entire colony period and for some time after. While we obviously did not have a need for all 2,000 alumnae in the area to pitch in, we had MANY alumnae volunteering to help in one way or another. Alumnae support is not the end-all-be-all to successfully launching a colony, but it definitely helps.

BTW, the chapter is now at total and very successful. They are the alumnae's pride and joy! :)

AlphaSigOU 03-31-2004 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by astroAPhi
40 miles from Kennedy Space Center. Yay for watching launches from campus. :D
Especially at night... :) Delta IIs and IIIs put out a decent light show, but none compare to the Shuttle's SRBs! :)

astroAPhi 03-31-2004 11:34 PM

I think it's very important to expand in areas where you're not strong. After all, how are you ever going to gain any strength in that area unless someone sticks their neck out?

I think that with 10-20 local alumnae (and I feel like I'm overestimating for possible burnout), a new chapter would be just fine. Also, the local will have some girls graduating at the end of the year who will be staying in the area (or trying to) that I know would help out. I'm a fellow bridesmaid with one of their alumnae. :D

The1calledTKE 03-31-2004 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Maybe it was just trading Spit?:D

Denounce someone/something then lets throw the gauntlet down!:D

There was a poor Horse who carried a Fair Naked Maiden who had a cause, It was Killed!:o

The Fair Maiden Who Rode The Horse was spared! Why?

Oh, Her Name Was Not Marian!:p

http://www.digitalend.com/pics/girlscout1%20copy.jpg

Glitter650 04-24-2004 03:35 AM

Just to kinda finish off this thread... for those who may be curious I'm proud to say that Phi Sigma Sigma will be colonizing at Florida Tech.

pirepresent 04-24-2004 04:48 AM

awesome news!!!!!

bruinaphi 04-24-2004 11:01 AM

Congratulations to Phi Sigma Sigma!

breathesgelatin 04-24-2004 11:04 AM

Congrats to Phi Sig!

pinkyphimu 04-24-2004 11:18 AM

how exciting! we need an expansion thread just to keep track of who is colonizing where...lol!

astroAPhi 04-24-2004 01:19 PM

We are very proud that Phi Sigma Sigma will be colonizing here! I'm sad that I won't be around to see it, but I'm sure I'll hear all about it from my sisters and from my friends who plan on going through Recruitment for their colonization. :)

Tom Earp 04-25-2004 03:18 PM

Congrats to Phi Sigma Sigma and Fl Tech!:cool:

It isnt the biggest school but very special for The Brains! You have to be, I couldnt carry a slide rule for any of them!

Ladies take heed, more guys than girls! They do not all look and act like Revenge of the Nerds!:)

TriDeltaGal 04-25-2004 05:23 PM

Congrats to Phi Sigma Sigma on your new colony!

shadokat 04-26-2004 10:10 AM

Mucho Congrats to Phi Sigma Sigma!!!

MooseGirl 04-26-2004 10:52 AM

Congrats to us!

Good job extension committee!


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