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SMSUBear 03-19-2004 07:57 PM

Why are sororities bigger than fraternities
 
Why is it that a Sorority will have about 100-200 girls, but a fraternity usually is only about half of that size? This may not be the case everywhere, but it sure is here. I was just wondering why this was the case.

SMSUBear

PhiPsiRuss 03-19-2004 08:11 PM

Sororities operate in a more controlled environment, and restrict the number of chapters on any given campus, for a number of possible reasons. Because most greek systems have fewer sorority chapters than fraternity chapters, the average size of the sorority chapters goes up.

DeltAlum 03-19-2004 08:12 PM

While it may not be the entire reason, I believe fraternities are considerably more expensive to be a part of than sororities. Much of that difference is due to much higher insurance costs for fraternities who deal with many more Risk Management issues due to allowing alcohol, parties and other things in their houses.

PhiPsiRuss 03-19-2004 08:18 PM

Differing operating costs may be a factor, but the disparity in sorority and fraternity chapter sizes predates chapter liability insurance.

DeltAlum 03-19-2004 10:10 PM

Perhaps. I can't prove it, but it certainly seemed like things were more equal when I was an undergrad back in the late 60's.

carnation 03-19-2004 10:34 PM

The SEC schools I attended had equal numbers of fraternity and sorority members but they had smaller and more numerous fraternities.

James 03-19-2004 11:41 PM

I think he is asking why the disparity in chapter sizes exists . . .

PhiDelt649 03-20-2004 10:02 PM

Perhaps it is just my ignorance of indepth sorority workings, but I feel the reason is largely inpart to the actual "pledgeship". Sororities have neither the length of pledgeship nor the hazing. Thus, it is (to an extent) easier to join a sorority.

Please do not flame me, I could be completely wrong because, as I stated above, I lack any hard knowledge of inner sorority structure.

TSteven 03-20-2004 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carnation
The SEC schools I attended had equal numbers of fraternity and sorority members but they had smaller and more numerous fraternities.
I agree.

For example. You might have 1,200 fraternity members and 1,200 sorority members on campus. However, there would be 12 sororities on campus with each chapter at 100 women. And 20 fraternities with 60 members.

Tom Earp 03-21-2004 01:28 AM

Da, simply explain the situation! You all skirt it!:o

PanHell, if there is a Soroity who does not have membership, they will not let another come on campus!:(

It seems they do not like competition!

Fraternties on the other hand are much more open minded!

Tom Earp 03-21-2004 01:52 AM

REALLY?

That is amazing! Just F amazing!

Daddys Little Girl is pure as the driven snow while the guys are all snots for lack of not being nice!

Libidos are driven on both sides of the human Gender!:)

Horny is as Horny does!:D

Diamond Delta 03-21-2004 09:11 AM

I am agreeing with Tom's first post (sort of) but I have no idea what he is talking about in the second....

NutBrnHair 03-21-2004 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
It seems they do not like competition!

Fraternties on the other hand are much more open minded!

What you call lack of competition WE call a spirit of cooperation. It's worked pretty well for us.

PhiPsiRuss 03-21-2004 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NutBrnHair
What you call lack of competition WE call a spirit of cooperation. It's worked pretty well for us.
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Tom Earp 03-21-2004 01:23 PM

Well, it seems there was a post deleted in between my posts! Ta Da!

Yes, while it seems to work well in PanHell, it is strange that on campi such as a 6,500 populatin there are only 3 Soroities. None are to size as so decided. My Question is why are they not.:confused:

Just maybe, with say 100 Ladies in said Organizations, there are many out there who would like to join someone else.

Same Campus, I started a local with 6 Fraternitys, and while there have been ups and downs, Male Greeks out number Female Greeks (Orgs that is 2-1).

What about Soroitys with 100 + members, who knows who? Is that what a Fraternal Organization is supposed to be, I dont no Sue, Mary, Aswanda, Maylyn, well who do I know in My Soroity?:confused: This also goes for Male Greek Orgs. Okay?

I just Guess the idea of a Fraternal Greek Organization is to know and work with your Brothers/Sisters, not be just names and strangers!

NutBrnHair 03-21-2004 01:26 PM

USSR 1917-1992...NPC 1902-?
 
Shame on you, Russell Warshay...you know NPC has already lasted longer than the Soviet Union!

Tom Earp 03-21-2004 01:26 PM

Oh Russ Dude, that is to funny but true!:)

Oh, nice New Sig!:) :cool:

Oh, had to come back on this!!!!!

Watch out for weenie stompers!;)

NutBrnHair 03-21-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Well, it seems there was a post deleted in between my posts! Ta Da!

Yes, while it seems to work well in PanHell, it is strange that on campi such as a 6,500 populatin there are only 3 Soroities. None are to size as so decided. My Question is why are they not.:confused:

Just maybe, with say 100 Ladies in said Organizations, there are many out there who would like to join someone else.

Same Campus, I started a local with 6 Fraternitys, and while there have been ups and downs, Male Greeks out number Female Greeks (Orgs that is 2-1).

What about Soroitys with 100 + members, who knows who? Is that what a Fraternal Organization is supposed to be, I dont no Sue, Mary, Aswanda, Maylyn, well who do I know in My Soroity?:confused: This also goes for Male Greek Orgs. Okay?

I just Guess the idea of a Fraternal Greek Organization is to know and work with your Brothers/Sisters, not be just names and strangers!

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PhiPsiRuss 03-21-2004 01:30 PM

Re: USSR 1917-1992...NPC 1902-?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NutBrnHair
Shame on you, Russell Warshay...you know NPC has already lasted longer than the Soviet Union!
That's because the NPC hasn't invaded Afghanistan... yet.;)

NutBrnHair 03-21-2004 01:33 PM

Good one, Russ!
 
http://www.suburbia.com.au/~morpheus/smilies/laugh.gif
Hmmm...I think Martha Brown might make a fine General!

AUDeltaGam 03-21-2004 02:06 PM

Re: Good one, Russ!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NutBrnHair
http://www.suburbia.com.au/~morpheus/smilies/laugh.gif
Hmmm...I think Martha Brown might make a fine General!

Of course she would...she's a Delta Gamma :D

madmax 03-21-2004 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Well, it seems there was a post deleted in between my posts! Ta Da!

Yes, while it seems to work well in PanHell, it is strange that on campi such as a 6,500 populatin there are only 3 Soroities. None are to size as so decided. My Question is why are they not.:confused:

Just maybe, with say 100 Ladies in said Organizations, there are many out there who would like to join someone else.

Same Campus, I started a local with 6 Fraternitys, and while there have been ups and downs, Male Greeks out number Female Greeks (Orgs that is 2-1).



What are the total number of members of the fraternities vs sororities?

Tom Earp 03-21-2004 04:13 PM

madmax, my question exactly unless you are taling about My Alma Mater! Gave those figures to my knowledge!

Dont know about each and every School and Soro Numbers! ;)

If you do not understand Earp Speak, Just let me know OR NOT!:cool:

33girl 03-21-2004 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiDelt649
Perhaps it is just my ignorance of indepth sorority workings, but I feel the reason is largely inpart to the actual "pledgeship". Sororities have neither the length of pledgeship nor the hazing. Thus, it is (to an extent) easier to join a sorority.

Please do not flame me, I could be completely wrong because, as I stated above, I lack any hard knowledge of inner sorority structure.

Maybe the pledgeship is "easier" than fraternities' but trust me, the getting the bid certainly isn't! :) If guys had to go through formal rush like girls do (especially at a really Greek-heavy school) they would be screaming "stop hazing me!!" before the first day of parties was over. hee hee.

Wine&SilverBlue 03-21-2004 06:43 PM

rush or pledging
 
Maybe the pledgeship is "easier" than fraternities' but trust me, the getting the bid certainly isn't! If guys had to go through formal rush like girls do (especially at a really Greek-heavy school) they would be screaming "stop hazing me!!" before the first day of parties was over. hee hee.



totally agree

hoosier 03-22-2004 12:48 AM

God Bless these little old ladies
 
In my opinion, sororities have more members commonly than fraternities because they are better operated and managed.

Although I laugh at the little old ladies (alumnae) who run each sorority, in fact that is their secret. While the undergrad sorority members can't take a leak without getting approval from three alumnae, they also can't have a blackface party, move the couch onto the front porch, or have a kegger in the house library without getting approval.

Before they can get approval for something, they must actually think about it, figure out how much it costs, and compute potential legal bills - and then ask the little old ladies.

Often the answer is "that sounds great, we know you'll enjoy it, and just think how much better it will be IF:

1 - you can co-sponsor it with a fraternity
2 - have all of the crowded events at the fraternity's house
3 - get the fraternity's pledges to do the work
4 - get the fraternity to pay for it"

"Oh, and be sure you are not wearing any letters while drinking the fraternity's beer (and not out of a can)."

The sororities' success is based on the big number of active advisors and supervisors every successful chapter has.

God Bless these little old ladies for the interest they have, and the time they give.

Sororities are generally larger, because the advisors know that makes for strong, successful, and wealthy chapters.

PhiPsiRuss 03-22-2004 12:51 AM

Sororities are larger because there are fewer sorority chapters. There are fewer sorority chapters because NPC rules restrict expansion. Its about economics.

pikapp120 03-22-2004 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
While it may not be the entire reason, I believe fraternities are considerably more expensive to be a part of than sororities.
The sororities on our campus are much more expensive than fraternities - the fraternities average about $600/semester, whereas the sororities are running $1500/semester but they have house mom's and palace's to live in.

33girl 03-22-2004 01:07 PM

nyet!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
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Comrade Russellovitch, if NPC is such a bunch of Communists, can you please explain why my sorority has 74 active chapters and Chi Omega has 174? ;)

GeekyPenguin 03-22-2004 01:10 PM

Re: nyet!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Comrade Russellovitch, if NPC is such a bunch of Communists, can you please explain why my sorority has 74 active chapters and Chi Omega has 174? ;)
Your NPC delegate did not suck up to the appropriate authorities during debutante school, Comrade 33hoff.

sugar and spice 03-22-2004 01:24 PM

Re: Re: nyet!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Your NPC delegate did not suck up to the appropriate authorities during debutante school, Comrade 33hoff.
*spits diet Mountain Dew all over the screen*

KATH! I MISSED YOU!

33girl 03-22-2004 01:24 PM

Re: Re: nyet!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Your NPC delegate did not suck up to the appropriate authorities during debutante school, Comrade 33hoff.
Actually I think our delegate made the mistake of saying "that Nicholas is sort of yummy. Do we really have to kill him too?"

PhiPsiRuss 03-22-2004 01:29 PM

Re: Da!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Your NPC delegate did not suck up to the appropriate authorities during debutante school, Comrade 33hoff.
Comrade GeekyPenguinsky is correct. Your NPC delegate also enjoys the Motherland's wodka during sessions of the Politburo! This did not please other senior party members.;)


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