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ENDROAD 06-18-2001 09:18 AM

Fellow Sisterfriends: Hand Out or Hand Up
 
Okay, I thought of this topic this weekend as I was reviewing and organizing my "notebook" of research on Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. As a striving Sisterfriend I look at my journey as a goal and a job to be done. I never half step in anything that I do and I don't make excuses. I have a lot of information about the sorority and the chapter I hope to gain membership in. I have a print out of the Greek Alphabet, Founders History, Chapter's Important Dates and Charter Members, etc. etc. My question is: http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif Should I share this information with fellow interestees? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif One young lady on another thread said she had researched for three months. Not, to put her down but I have researched for three years. Some of my friends who I know are interested, I have attempted to share my information with them but they are more interested in learning how to stroll. I want to know that too, but I don't think it is a priority. So may I please get some feedbak from both Memberfriends and Sisterfriends on how I should handle this. Should I keep http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif, (thanks Lovely), the info I have worked hard to collect or should I share? If you don't want to give advice here please feel free to email me.

Thanks

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Lovely 06-18-2001 09:46 AM

I think your choice of words is very interesting-share or be stingy? Stingy has a negative conotation-usually we called each other stingy if we didn't share some candy or other treat as kids. In school as in the workplace, sometimes, others get credit for work you have done. If you feel strongly that the "work" or "treat" you have so painstakingly acquired for three years is not something you want to share with others, that is your right. Don't feel like you have to share it. Perhaps, you will be doing them a favor by allowing them the opprotunity to research and uncover things for themselves. I would rephrase it in a positive way, you aren't being stingy, you're allowing them the opportunity to enjoy themselves in their pursuit.

SweetestDiva 06-18-2001 09:47 AM

All that information is readily available and easily attainable. I know a lot of interested females who are more concerned with chants and strolling, but hey, that's their biz. It's not my job to teach/take care of anybody else. Anybody who wants it bad enough will get out there and do what they need to do on their own.

Riley 06-18-2001 09:49 AM

Hey ENROAD, I am a fellow sisterfriend and I can relate to your situation. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable sharing information, and I mean "hard earned" info with someone else who I felt didn't put as much effort into searching or who doesn't seem as committed as you are like your friends. Like it has been said on many posts before seeking membership should fun and hard work. You cannot truly appreciate membership without it. I have been collecting information for the past 5 years. This info has been pooled from websites like these, books and archives. I am not about to hand all that over b/c someone else is intrested. You have to think of it like the members of Alpha Kappa Alpha. Would they just hand over info just b/c some one is intrested?

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Audacity44 06-18-2001 09:57 AM

As someone else stated, all the info that you have obtained is EASILY accesible. I would not make it a stressor on should I share what I have researched or keep it to myself. Instead I would encourage my Sisterfriend to keep looking and don't give up. Give her support and maybe one or two links as to where she can get a jump start on finding her information. I know that we are not supposed to Sistersit our sisterfriends, but at least we can give them a good impression on what Sisterhood is all about.

SableCherub 06-18-2001 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by ENDROAD:
Okay, I thought of this topic this weekend as I was reviewing and organizing my "notebook" of research on Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. As a striving Sisterfriend I look at my journey as a goal and a job to be done. I never half step in anything that I do and I don't make excuses. I have a lot of information about the sorority and the chapter I hope to gain membership in. I have a print out of the Greek Alphabet, Founders History, Chapter's Important Dates and Charter Members, etc. etc. My question is: http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif Should I share this information with fellow interestees? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif One young lady on another thread said she had researched for three months. Not, to put her down but I have researched for three years. Some of my friends who I know are interested, I have attempted to share my information with them but they are more interested in learning how to stroll. I want to know that too, but I don't think it is a priority. So may I please get some feedbak from both Memberfriends and Sisterfriends on how I should handle this. Should I keep http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif, (thanks Lovely), the info I have worked hard to collect or should I share? If you don't want to give advice here please feel free to email me.

Thanks

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sf...i feel you...i'm in the same boat...the three year mark...and though i am not interested in alpha kappa alpha...i say keep it to yourself...we all have to tread our own path and if your friends are serious they will do their own research...to the extent that suits their desires...so i would not force anything on them...if they happen to ask where you got it from...i see nothing wrong with sharing it since it is public information...so i wish you the best... http://www.plauder-smilies.de/love/pinklove.gif

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AKA2D '91 06-18-2001 11:34 AM

Wellllll.

I PERSONALLY feel that you should "keep it to yourself". That is a compilation of YOU collecting data, materials, etc. JUST LIKE YOU DID IT, SOMEONE ELSE CAN GET OUT THERE AND HUSTLE THEIR BUTTS off and get the SAME information.

You don't have to tell the SF EXACTLY where you got the information, you can, however, steer her in the RIGHT DIRECTION.

That's just my personal opinion.

Something extra to think about. What if YOU give SF ABC ALL of your information AND SHE MAKES IT and YOU DON'T, how would you feel?

Mahogany04 06-18-2001 11:47 AM

Hi I'm the sisterfriend, who had only researched for three months. I just wanted to say that it's amazing if after three years you are still finding new information. There's only so much information on the internet before you starting running into redundant information. Also, there aren't very many books that we, as sisterfriends, have ready access to. Anyway, most of the information you'll need to know, you'll learn when and if you make line. People always advise sisterfirends to learn the history to have some knowledge of the organization prior to their pursuit of membership, but the extensive learning takes place on line. In addition, from what I hear, regardless of how much history YOU know, if your line sisters don't know it, it's just like you don't know it either. This leads me to answer the question at hand. This is about sisterhood. AS the saying goes "there is no I in Team." These girsl could be your line sisters one day, and if they don't know the information, you don't either. I wouldn't recommend starting a study groupe because I heard that that's against the rules, but you may want to consider sharing your information with these ladies (they could be your sisters one day). Also, one other thing...I heard that learning the history together on line is one of the things that creates the bond between the line sisters; they're able to grow close and work together for a common cause. You may not get the full effect if you already know all the information and you line sisters don't. I hope this helps.

AKA2D '91 06-18-2001 11:52 AM

At THIS juncture, a TEAM DOES NOT exist! So, right now, it's about I making the TEAM!

Whatever happens AFTER the team has been chosen is ANOTHER thread! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

lovele1978 06-18-2001 01:24 PM

I am new to the forum, but I must say that as a sisterfriend that I have been doing research for quite some time as well. I agree with Riley in that you can find info about the organization of your interest through more than just websites. As it has been said many times before, how do you think sisterfriends did research before the internet?? I think we need to get back to doing leg-work and networking, and not rely do heavily on the world wide web.

SableCherub 06-18-2001 01:34 PM

...actually...3 months of learning vs. 3 years of learning does not determine whether someone is more knowledgeable than someone else...i have learned more in 6 months than the two and a half years preceeding my last 6 months of research...it just depends on how diligent you are...not how long you've been looking...memorizing history does not mean you are more knowledgeable than someone that has not memorized history...and it won't guarantee you membership...even if they are encouraging you to do research...the world wide web is a wonderful tool...either move forward...evolve and progress...or get left behind in the aftermath of explosive perfection...

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ENDROAD 06-18-2001 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by SableCherub:
...actually...3 months of learning vs. 3 years of learning does not determine whether someone is more knowledgeable than someone else...i have learned more in 6 months than the two and a half years preceeding my last 6 months of research...it just depends on how diligent you are...not how long you've been looking...memorizing history does not mean you are more knowledgeable than someone that has not memorized history...and it won't guarantee you membership...even if they are encouraging you to do research...the world wide web is a wonderful tool...either move forward...evolve and progress...or get left behind in the aftermath of explosive perfection...

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Sisterfriend,

I know that and no, I was not trying to imply that my three years of research was anymore important than anyone elses research. I was just saying that in my opinion there is no way the information can be redundant, because there is so much out there to learn. By all means knowing the history of an organization does not guarantee you membership, even when you are encouraged to research. However, your hardwork and perserverence is displayed when you do know somethings, as well as when you volunteer in the community, when you support Chapter activities etc. All these things make you a Better Candidate not a Guaranteed One.


sunnydays96 06-18-2001 01:57 PM

Why should you share? If people don't want to work hard to get into whatever sorority, then will they work hard if they make it and will they appreciate their sorority?

The research isn't that difficult to get. Just like you did your research, so should everyone else. There are many places where one can find the info that they seek. All they have to do is go LOOK for it. It's alright to be a nice person, but one has to draw the line between being nice and letting others take advantage of you.

There is a difference between not doing anything and asking others to give you info and doing the research, coming to a stump and needing some help. For the latter situation, it's alright to HELP someone. I wouldn't just plain out GIVE my research.

Scenario: Lets say you share your info with another interstee. She has the opportunity to share this info with a member first. You have the oppourtunity to share it with a member later. You repeat the same info which can make you look stupid by a) being redundant and b) not exercising discretion. Do you think sharing info helps now?

Lastly , one cannot place a time on the amount of research that must be done. If I waited 3 years, I wouldn't be a member now. Everyone's situation is different. Some people need/have only a short period of time and others need/have longer time to research. This all goes along with the idea that some info shouldn't be known until the right time. How does one know the right time? Well you will know when you get there.


Mahogany04 06-18-2001 02:06 PM

HI Endroad. The It wasn't a personal attack on you ENDROAD, I was just impressed that you are still finding new information. Though I had only been researching for three months, I have been STUDYING and learning the information for about 7 months (including months of research). A lot of information is disclosed in the book "The Divine Nine." Maybe you can advise your fellow interests to invest in this very informative and helpful work. It's $16.98 at most book stores. Remeber sister, we are in this together. There is no competition, as we are all working hard to seek AKA in our lives. As long as AKA is in your heart and GOD is on your side, you will be okay. Why don't you pray about your question whether or not to share your information; HE will answer. Have a nice day sister. But remember, in the future, do what you can to raise "us" as a people and help your sisters and brothers in any way that you can. There is no contest, but a little note, I will rise to any challenge. Don't doubt my knowledge because I haven't been researching as long as you. For the months that I have been researching and studying, I have studied daily and faithfully. We're in this together.

"Nobody But Nobody Can Make It Out Here Alone" --- Maya Angelou

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kitten03 06-18-2001 02:12 PM

I've been confronted with this type of problem often. I call it a "problem" not because of the information that they seek but the lack of discretion they have in pursuing it. I use "they" to mean other SF's. No disrespect to them as people but I know that I worked hard to find out about members and the organization that I wish to be a part of. It bothers me when I'm asked a question that I won't answer, they continue to ask. Like I'm deaf! I always try to give as little as possible i.e. www.aka1908.com. But I hate when they expect me to come gushing forward with info. Also, my interest has been brought up at the most inconvenient times. It's so annoying. Fortunately and unfortunately, there are no members on campus but the need for discretion is still just as great.

On a lighter note, I'm always curious as to what types of things or information people are looking for. Not the easily sought info but those that take time and effort into finding. It's good to know i'm not the only one who's being a "Nosy Nellie" http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Mahogany04 06-18-2001 02:15 PM

Sorry guys; I just wanted to clear up something. I didn't say that ll the information is redundant because, you can never learn everything there is to know about AKA. Even after one gains membership, there is so much to learn. The history is ongoing; and it would take a lifetime to learn everything. I wrote that the information on the internet starts to get a little redundant after a while. Of course there are so many other sources out there, which I have used to faniliraize myself with the history. One really good one is "The Divine Nine." OKay ladies, I'll have to chat later. I have to go.

" Without struggle, there is no progress."
-----Frederick Douglas

Mahogany04 06-18-2001 02:18 PM

familiarize sorry

nikki25 06-18-2001 02:23 PM

It's interesting that you've noted a key thing about your search: that you've been researching for 3 years. That's a huge commitment of time and resources. Information, like any valued commodity is something to treasure. According to your post, it doesn't seem as if your "friends" are genuinely valuing information. I would advise you to not release the information you've gathered throughout the course of your search.

Think of it this way: If you and an equally qualified friend were vying for the same job, would you share all of the information that you have? I don't think so. You'd probably share selected pieces of information that would ensure that you had the competitive advantage. You may choose to share nothing. The same may apply here.



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ENDROAD 06-18-2001 02:37 PM

Sisterfriend, Mahogony 04,

I had no intention to challenge you or question your knowledge. Again, I was just making a point that the information is not redundant. Niether did I consider your post a personal attack, I am dissapointed that you considered mine to be such. As AKA2D '91, said "we" meaning Sisterfriends are not on a team as of yet, I know some interestees who will "probably" be selected and some of them I am already close to. But I now know that I will only share my book with my linesisters who are assigned to me by the Chapter members "IF" I am selected. Over 65 girls attended the interest meeting I attended. When they have Rush that fiqure will increase, they will not choose everyone..therefore that makes it a contest. I would like to be one of the finishers.

On that lighter note, Memberfriend Kitten03, I have found the stories of the founders and theirs lives after chartering Alpha Kappa Alpha to be very interesting. The death of Majorie Hill is very sad. She was honored by being the first and I often wonder why she died so young but have not been able to find a concrete answer I am definitely a Nosy Nellie, I have been up till two in the morning reading through books and searching the different websites. The Divine Nine is a good piece of reference but I have found other sources to be even more valuable. Some Chapters put more on their websites than others. It is a WONDERFUL journey and I am loving every minute of it. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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ENDROAD 06-18-2001 02:45 PM

Thank you to ALL the young ladies who posted a response to my question. I was nervous about starting a topic but desperately wanted advice. I respect everyone's opinions and I pray that we (Sisterfriends) all make it to membership. However, as one of my favorite members of Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity says, http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif"Many are Called, but Few are Chosen," http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif He knows who he is, probably. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif But the point is now I understand what you ladies are saying and I guess that is why I sensed my own reluntance to share information and asked the question to be assured that I was not being selfish. Again, thank you again for your input.

SableCherub 06-18-2001 02:57 PM



i would hope though that if you withold information from another sisterfriend it is not for self-serving reasons...like you are afraid they will get in and you won't...it should only be because maybe they are not ready for it...and at the time you came into the information...you were ready for it...to digest it and not flaunt it...it should be so that they find their own path...not because you are trying to obstruct theirs out of fear... http://www.plauder-smilies.de/love/pinklove.gif

InquiringMind 06-18-2001 04:00 PM

ENDROAD, I can feel where you're coming from. I have been researching and collecting information almost daily for the past year and a half. I have been to nearly every webpage listed under greekpages.com, gone thru nearly every book available, and talked to God knows how many Greeks to obtain info on not only Alpha Kappa Alpha, but the other 8 NPHC BGLOs as well. As it has been said before, most of the information is easily accesible. No one knows where or what's in my notebook, but if someone that I know is also SERIOUSLY interested and in DIRE need of help, I will do all that I can to help. I'll point you in the right direction, but that's it--I'm not going to give you anything.

Soulful Soror 06-18-2001 09:24 PM

http://www.plauder-smilies.de/sad/nixweiss.gif This one is a hard one. I know some older sorors who's mouths would drop at the notion of SF's not wanting to help each other. I was always told the "sisterliness/bond" begins long before your selection. You should know everybody that is chosen right along with you (maybe not their life story, but enough)....but, then, there IS the discretion that has to be figured into deciding who you share your info with..whenever I got new info, I called my sisterfriends to update them & vice versa. A lot of times that cross referencing brought misinformation to light (and, saved what could have been a SUPER embarrassing moment)..this may have been mentioned before, but what if you don't share info with a SF & she makes it..while you remain a SF..that may not sit well w/her..and, you could become known as an unsisterly Sister Friend..like I said, this is a hard one.. http://www.plauder-smilies.de/sad/nixweiss.gif

AKA4MJ2 06-18-2001 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Soulful Soror:
http://www.plauder-smilies.de/sad/nixweiss.gif ....You should know everybody that is chosen right along with you (maybe not their life story, but enough)....but, then, there IS the discretion that has to be figured into deciding who you share your info with..whenever I got new info, I called my sisterfriends to update them & vice versa.
Soror, I agree with you 108%... It is about discretion!!!!ENDROAD, this person that you are contemplating sharing info with, how well do you know his person? How close are you? Or is it a group of people? I ask this because, I too answered these same questions. And I was able to share with 1 person that I am very cool with. For me it is a respect thing! If you are not bringing nothing to the table, then do not expect me to give you all of my meal!!!IF this person have not done any researching or just the minimal (and you probably can reasonably determine this), then maybe you can offer some kind SF advice and point that person in the right direction.

Off the subject....

Someone mentioned this, and it has been bothering every since.....It may have been in this or another thread...

But the statement was " ...that they hope ALL SF make it into Alpha Kappa Alpha." AND I have to beg to differ! And I say this only because everyone is not meant or is made to be a lady of Alpha Kappa Alpha. Some Sorors may agree, some may not. Maybe it was just a kind gesture...

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Alias_01 06-18-2001 10:52 PM

I have been a serious interestee for about a year and a half and only in the last 6 months have I done some serious researching, partially because I did a research paper on BGLOs. Through the use of the internet I have amassed my own collection of information from websites such as the National website of the fraternity, the individual chapter's website and various other sites. Talking with members, I've even read the Divine Nine from cover to cover. So my acquired knowledge of what I want to pursue is very thorough. But I'm always looking for more to study up on. Does anyone know of any good websites I should check out?

Peace and Love
-Alias_01

ENDROAD 06-19-2001 12:04 AM

Memberfriend AKA2D ‘91,

That is EXACTLY what I am talking about. I would be EXTREMELY http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif upset if a Sisterfriend I had so diligently assisted just happened to be selected and I was not. There are only so many places to be filled on any Chapter's agenda, I presume, so I want to be sure that I receive a place, the rest just has to be set aside. I gave advice so freely recently but had to restrain myself when I saw my other Sisterfriends using this advice to gain favor with the Chapter Members. I consider myself to be a very kind person so, it was hard for me to come to a conclusion on my own regarding this matter. However, I see that all of the responses have told me to basically "Keep It To My Self" and "Allow Others To Do Their Own Work." Is there anyone out there who disagrees, I would like to hear your side also. This is very important to me and I think it will help other Sisterfriends too, both those who HAVE researched and those who HAVE NOT researched on their own.

I will share this verse that has assisted me in being patient through life and as I travel on my journey to Alpha Land, (no disrespect intended). http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God, and the peace of God, which surpasses all comprehension, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:6-7

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91:
Wellllll.

I PERSONALLY feel that you should "keep it to yourself". That is a compilation of YOU collecting data, materials, etc. JUST LIKE YOU DID IT, SOMEONE ELSE CAN GET OUT THERE AND HUSTLE THEIR BUTTS off and get the SAME information.

You don't have to tell the SF EXACTLY where you got the information, you can, however, steer her in the RIGHT DIRECTION.

That's just my personal opinion.

Something extra to think about. What if YOU give SF ABC ALL of your information AND SHE MAKES IT and YOU DON'T, how would you feel?



Riley 06-19-2001 12:36 AM

AKA2D '91 At THIS juncture, a TEAM DOES NOT exist! So, right now, it's about I making the TEAM!
Whatever happens AFTER the team has been chosen is ANOTHER thread!

This is so true. I was told this many times! Seeking membership is not a group effort. You have to put your best foot forward and act is if your are the only one showing interest. Even though you may have a close friend who wants to join with you if she is not pulling her weight with research, sorry to say she will get left behind.

P.S. if you read my earlier post you will see there is more than just the web and books! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Riley 06-19-2001 12:36 AM

AKA2D '91 At THIS juncture, a TEAM DOES NOT exist! So, right now, it's about I making the TEAM!
Whatever happens AFTER the team has been chosen is ANOTHER thread!

This is so true. I was told this many times! Seeking membership is not a group effort. You have to put your best foot forward and act is if your are the only one showing interest. Even though you may have a close friend who wants to join with you if she is not pulling her weight with research, sorry to say she will get left behind.

P.S. if you read my earlier post you will see there is more than just the web and books! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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ENDROAD 06-19-2001 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Mahogany04:
Hi I'm the sisterfriend, who had only researched for three months. I just wanted to say that it's amazing if after three years you are still finding new information. There's only so much information on the internet before you starting running into redundant information. Also, there aren't very many books that we, as sisterfriends, have ready access to.
Sisterfriend Mahogony4,

I asked for opinions on whether or not I should share the information I have collected and you gave me yours. Therefore, I want to be clear that this response is not directed to that statement but the statements made in the part of your quote I copied above. No offense, okay, but you have proven my point of how different three months of research versus three years of research can make. No the information has not been redundant at ALL. In fact, I would like to pose a couple of questions to you on information that is available through some "general" and some "very deep" research. For Example: Can you name the 9 original Founders and the 7 Sophomores? What year was the 1st initiation held? What year and where was the first Ivy Leaf planted? Where did they get it from? How many Chapters are in the region you are interested in? True enough, I would probably learn all of this from the Chapter Members "IF" I am selected but I know they will also be impressed if I already know some things as well, I know because they have told me they already are and encouraged me to keep researching. Keep Striving Sisterfriends, My Prayers are with you ALL.

AKA4MJ 06-19-2001 12:58 AM

SF, a few months ago, I was just where you are now! I was torn somewhat because I had readily attainable info that I wondered if I should share (and yes was even asked) with other intrestees.. And you know what I did, I kept it to myself! Nothing personal, but I did this for more of a selfish reason. What if they made it and I didn't, then they probably would REALLY expect me to know ALL the info we shared. So I took it upon myself to learn all of this info, and to only share with the other people that If (and I was http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif) I was extended an invitation for membership and my linesisters.

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sionnetier 06-19-2001 12:58 AM

I am sorry, but in some ways personally I disagree. I have been researching for three years also. I am very discrete in my process, but if I see another person who is as serious as I am or even more, I will share certain information. I won't to anyone everything I know, but even if I or anyone else told them every ounce of information in the world, that WILL NOT GUARANTEE membership.

No matter how much you want to be a member, when it comes down to it they are going to pick who ever they want. Even if that does not include you.

I have given out information to serious prospects, but most of the information that I did keep to myself was information that directly had to do with certain eperiences with members I have had.

Also, why not share because someone else would have had to have shared information in some way or you wouldn't know what you know now.

ClassyLady 06-19-2001 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by ENDROAD:

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That is how the process was explained to me. What I don't know is if this is the same for every BGLO or do only specific BGLOs use this system?

UMMMMMM, I think we do have emails where this can be discussed PRIVATELY! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

Thanks! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif


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112Soul 06-19-2001 11:57 PM

Greetings:

I know you said sisterfriends but I thought I would share something with you.

It is one thing to "help" (or should I say "help") another bro/sisterfriend out after and only after you know what their motivations are; it is another to "give" (or should I say "give") to those who are lazy and looking for a free handout. Mind you this is a lifelong decision and not some handout at the soup kitchen.

Having said this, I feel that whatever decisions are to be made you must keep the following things in mind:

1. Is the person I am "considering" (and we all should "cosider" instead of just DO!) a person I would have been friends with if it were not XYZ (or in your case AKA)?

2. Will this person still be my friend if neither of us make it (once you try out and don't make it you will be AMAZED at how many folks do 1080's. this is how you find out who is genuine and who is full of sh-)?

3. What has this person or what is this person capable of contributing to the pot (or team if you prefer to refer yourselves as a team)?

After analyzation, I feel that only you and only you can make that decision. I'm not speaking as a member of an organization but a young one trying to follow the correct path as you. But consider this, the way we ponder our thoughts of other people; those before us (I hope I'm not jumping the gun here) have pondered the same as us.

ONE

112

P. S. Feels good to be back.

novella000 06-20-2001 12:02 AM

I feel that 112. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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CJUS 06-23-2001 12:23 AM

I want to ask Enroad were you referring to SF over the internet or on your campus. Well, I, myself am a SF. I couldn't beleve what I read. I thought that was what this forum was for---to guide us, SF, along with the assistance of the memberfriends, to the right path into Alpha Kappa Alpha land. If this is a situation on campus, I feel that you wouldn't even have this problem if you would have been discreet. I know that you may have been excited about expressing your interest to friends. I feel that it is okay to express your interest in xyz sorority in an anonymous way, like we all have been doing on GC. Now people know your interested. They may have an idea that you know somethings because you have been researching for three years. I also feel that this should have never been expressed. As a memberfriend asked, how would you feel if you didn't get in, and you leaked information to another SF, and they got accepted. It wouldn't have been a problem if you were discreet in your information. As you have said you were wrong to question someone else's knowledge and research, I agree with you. I have never had that idea in my head. I think it is commendable that Sf's are doing their research, and a SF may have looked over something that you didn't miss. Otherwise over the internet, I don't see how it woould compose a problem if you guided a SF to a source where you may have found some pertinent info that you may have thought would be beneficial to you sucess towards Alpha Kappa Alpha. The internet is anonymous, we don't know each other from Adam. It wouldn't hurt. We are supposed to be working together. So when I first came to GC, I was directed to the website www.aka1908.com. Your research is your research, if you want to keep it to yourself that's fine. You have gotten some good responses to your topic. And I hope it helps you.


Good Luck, SF


CJUS 06-23-2001 12:23 AM

I want to ask Enroad were you referring to SF over the internet or on your campus. Well, I, myself am a SF. I couldn't beleve what I read. I thought that was what this forum was for---to guide us, SF, along with the assistance of the memberfriends, to the right path into Alpha Kappa Alpha land. If this is a situation on campus, I feel that you wouldn't even have this problem if you would have been discreet. I know that you may have been excited about expressing your interest to friends. I feel that it is okay to express your interest in xyz sorority in an anonymous way, like we all have been doing on GC. Now people know your interested. They may have an idea that you know somethings because you have been researching for three years. I also feel that this should have never been expressed. As a memberfriend asked, how would you feel if you didn't get in, and you leaked information to another SF, and they got accepted. It wouldn't have been a problem if you were discreet in your information. As you have said you were wrong to question someone else's knowledge and research, I agree with you. I have never had that idea in my head. I think it is commendable that Sf's are doing their research, and a SF may have looked over something that you didn't miss. Otherwise over the internet, I don't see how it woould compose a problem if you guided a SF to a source where you may have found some pertinent info that you may have thought would be beneficial to you sucess towards Alpha Kappa Alpha. The internet is anonymous, we don't know each other from Adam. It wouldn't hurt. We are supposed to be working together. So when I first came to GC, I was directed to the website www.aka1908.com. Your research is your research, if you want to keep it to yourself that's fine. You have received some good responses to your topic. And I hope it helps you.


Good Luck, SF


AKA2D '91 10-07-2002 06:33 PM

To the top for our "new" SFs. :D

Soror Endroad, (when you read this thread), how do you feel now that you are on the OTHER side of the fence?

ENDROAD 10-09-2002 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91
To the top for our "new" SFs. :D

Soror Endroad, (when you read this thread), how do you feel now that you are on the OTHER side of the fence?

Soror AKA2D '91,

Now that I am a beautiful, elegant sophisticated lady of Allllpha Kappa Allllpha Sorority In'corporatated:D I realize that my hinderance to share information was not unfounded because NONE of the young ladies whom I considered sharing my research with were selected for membership. In fact, without going into details I can say that my prophytes expressed that they had serious (and duly founded, Nationals don't play ;) ) reservations regarding these young ladies. In addition, I realize that 3 letters or the potential for such can get you a whole group of insincere friends. I am very grateful that my prophytes were able to see past the company I kept . However, though all of my research was not in vain and my prophytes were impressed with my prior knowledge but when it really counted THEY told me everything I needed to know.

So dear Sisterfriends in your quest for membership into my beloved sorority be mindful of your appearances, the company you keep and your behavior all the time even when you are away from campus because you never know when my Sorors are watching.

Tru_Believer 12-15-2002 11:51 PM

WOW I read all of the responses in this thread and I have to say as a OH SO SERIOUS sisterfriend I am not comfortable sharing my extensive research with anyone. First of all only a few people know Im a SF. I have spent years countless hours and plenty of money for info on this illustrious organization and when and if I am selected I will be happy to share it with my LS's. Then and only then. SF ENDROAD I am happy to say I knew the answers to all of your questions. My work is paying off.

RedefinedDiva 06-28-2003 10:45 PM

TTT
 
Bump, Bump, Bump!

I am just reveiwing some of the old threads as a "refresher" course. :p I came across this one and decided to answer it myself.

I don't share my info with anyone. I have hustled and worked my tail off for all the info that I have attained. I do not feel that I have to share with anyone. If you are serious about what you want, then do your thing and find stuff on your own. I don't mind pointing someone in the right direction, but as far as giving away info, I don't think so....


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