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exlurker 02-21-2004 04:36 AM

NPC Sororities at Big 12 Schools
 
This is sort of dzandiloo's fault -- in the "New Sorority for Clemson" thread in the Rush forum she mentioned wishing that some Big 12 schools would open for expansion so that DZ could present and, hopefully, colonize.

That made me wonder -- what is the general picture of NPC representation at the Big 12 schools (Texas at Austin, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Colorado, Nebraska at Lincoln, and Iowa State)? These are all large or fairly large schools, for the most part, with strong regional or national reputations / school alumni support.

Searches of Panhellenic, Greek life, and inter/national HOs' sites produced these findings -- errors are mine alone, of course, and corrections and updates are welcome (in a couple of instances a school's site still listed a chapter that had recently closed, and I did NOT include those chapters in the following summary).

It appears that there are 144 NPC chapters at the Big 12 schools; Baylor has the smallest number (9), while Nebraska and Texas-Austin each have 14. The others are in between with 10, 11, 12 or 13 chapters.

Six NPC groups have chapters at all 12 schools:

Alpha Chi Omega, Chi Omega, Delta Delta Delta, Kappa Alpha Theta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Pi Beta Phi.

Three have chapters at 10 of the 12:

Alpha Delta Pi (not at Colorado or Oklahoma),
Kappa Delta (not at Colorado or Oklahoma), and Gamma Phi Beta (not at Texas-Austin or Baylor).

One -- Delta Gamma -- has chapters at 8 of the 12 (not at Baylor, Kansas State, Iowa State or Oklahoma State)

One -- Zeta Tau Alpha -- has chapters at 7 of the 12 (not at Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Nebraska, or Colorado).

Alpha Phi is at 5 of the 12.

Alpha Omicron Pi and Phi Mu are each at 4 of the 12.

Alpha Gamma Delta, Alpha Xi Delta, and Sigma Kappa are each at 3 of the 12.

Delta Zeta and Sigma Delta Tau are each at 2.

Alpha Epsilon Phi is at one.

And six NPC groups apparently do not currently have chapters at any Big 12 school: Alpha Sigma Alpha, Alpha Sigma Tau, Delta Phi Epsilon, Phi Sigma Sigma, Sigma Sigma Sigma, and Theta Phi Alpha.

What the reasons are, I have no idea -- probably combinations of regional alumnae bases, funds needed for housing / colonization, the views of individual NPC groups as to their "niches," geographic factors like nearby chapters in similar schools, plus luck and the accidents of history.

Has anyone else looked at the NPC -- or IFC or NPHC -- makeup of another conference? I'll bet there are some that are very different from the Big 12!

KillarneyRose 02-21-2004 04:48 AM

Very interesting threat, Exlurker! You did a lot of work :)

I'd love to do a breakdown of the Big East (my Alma Mater's conference), but the football side of it got raided after last season ended so I don't even know which teams are in it anymore! :(

Glitter650 02-21-2004 05:06 AM

being a west coast girl... I'd be interested to see the break down of the Pac 10 I'm pretty sure Alpha Phi is close to the top chapter number wise and I'd venture that Kappa Kappa Gamma has chapters at a majority of the Pac 10 schools as well.. not sure where some of the others fit in... but most of friends go to these schools and I know those two orgs. have a strong number of chapters out here ......

NutBrnHair 02-21-2004 10:20 AM

Re: NPC Sororities at Big 12 Schools
 
Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
Big 12 schools (Texas at Austin, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Colorado, Nebraska at Lincoln, and Iowa State

Six NPC groups have chapters at all 12 schools:

Alpha Chi Omega, Chi Omega, Delta Delta Delta, Kappa Alpha Theta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Pi Beta Phi.

Excellent work, exlurker -- most impressive! As I was reading the list of Big 12 schools, I was thinking, "Yeah, we're there...and there...and there..." I love the Big 12 and I'm so glad Chi Omega is well-represented there. I, too, would love to see the list of NPC at the other large conferences.

dzandiloo 02-21-2004 11:53 AM

Re: NPC Sororities at Big 12 Schools
 
Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
This is sort of dzandiloo's fault
Wow. My comments don't usually get much notice--much less spur someone on to do crazy research. But hey-I appreciate the work you did! Looking at it, it makes me think that surely there is a Big 12 school that needs another sorority!!! *cough*UT*cough*

Oh well. My daughter has 11 years until she graduates high school...there's still time for UT to re-colonize DZ so she can go there. Otherwise, my family is going to have to shut up and live with the fact that we will have a little Aggie on our hands 'cuz I'm not letting her go somewhere that DZ's not an option (joke...of course, I'm not that obsessed w/her future Greek life...much).

TSteven 02-21-2004 12:06 PM

Fun Fact regarding UNL
 
Fun Fact regarding UNL. The Greek system at Nebraska is one of the oldest in the country. Many sororities came to NU early on thus, all but three current sororities have single chapter denotations.

Alpha Chi Omega - Xi
Alpha Delta Pi - Alpha Epsilon
Alpha Omicron Pi - Zeta
Alpha Phi - Nu
Alpha Xi Delta - Rho
Chi Omega - Kappa
Delta Delta Delta - Kappa
Delta Gamma - Kappa
Gamma Phi Beta - Pi
Kappa Alpha Theta - Rho
Kappa Delta - Pi
Kappa Kappa Gamma - Sigma
Phi Mu - Zeta Gamma
Pi Beta Phi - Nebraska Beta

Inactive

Delta Zeta - Zeta
Sigma Delta Tau - Theta
Sigma Kappa - Alpha Kappa
Theta Phi Alpha - Mu
Zeta Tau Alpha - Beta Epsilon

NutBrnHair 02-21-2004 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I'd love to do a breakdown of the Big East (my Alma Mater's conference), but the football side of it got raided after last season ended so I don't even know which teams are in it anymore! :(
KR, here's a list of the Big East basketball conference:

Pitt, UCONN, Providence, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Seton Hall, West Virginia, Villanova, Boston College, Rutgers, Georgetown, Virginia Tech, Miami & St. Johns. (Wow, 14 teams -- that is big.)

Miami and fellow Big East member Virginia Tech are leaving the league to join the ACC after the current academic year. Boston College also is leaving the Big East for the ACC, but not until at least 2005.

AXORissa 02-21-2004 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Very interesting threat, Exlurker! You did a lot of work :)

I'd love to do a breakdown of the Big East (my Alma Mater's conference), but the football side of it got raided after last season ended so I don't even know which teams are in it anymore! :(

Rutgers currently has six NPC chapters:

Alpha Chi Omega :D
Delta Gamma
Gamma Phi Beta
Sigma Delta Tau
Sigma Kappa
Zeta Tau Alpha

Phi Sigma Sigma closed last year, and there was a Kappa Delta interest group two years ago-- but Panhel voted against expansion since not all chapters were at total.

And if we're talking Basketball...
Seton Hall has:

Alpha Gamma Delta
Alpha Phi
Alpha sigma Tau
Delta Phi Epsilon
Sigma Sigma Sigma

TSteven 02-21-2004 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NutBrnHair
KR, here's a list of the Big East basketball conference:

Pitt, UCONN, Providence, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Seton Hall, West Virginia, Villanova, Boston College, Rutgers, Georgetown, Virginia Tech, Miami & St. Johns. (Wow, 14 teams -- that is big.)

Miami and fellow Big East member Virginia Tech are leaving the league to join the ACC after the current academic year. Boston College also is leaving the Big East for the ACC, but not until at least 2005.

And the Big East is adding the following from Conference USA.

Cincinnati
DePaul
Louisville
Marquette
South Florida

:eek:

ISUKappa 02-21-2004 01:07 PM

A few words on Iowa State

Iowa State is down to 13 NPC sororities after the closing of Alpha Xi Delta last year.

At one time we also had Zeta Tau Alpha and Alpha Phi on campus; ZTA closed in 1995 and APhi closed in 1998.

Of the 13, about 7-8 are at total or are very close, 2-3 are under by 10-15 and 2-3 are under by 20 or more. (It varies from year to year). Total is set at 92. Every chapter is housed and the number of members living in ranges from 45-65. Formal recruitment is held the week before classes start in August. On average, 350 girls go through recrutiment and quota is usually set around 20. Chapters are able to COB anytime after formal recruitment, though the big push is usually the month after recruitment and the first month of the second semester.

We also have a chapter of Phi Beta Chi, but they are significantly smaller, unhoused and do informal recruiting only.

I doubt Iowa State will look to expand any time soon. The numbers of girls going through recruitment haven't been increasing and not every chapter has been receiving quota. When I was on Panhellenic, it was my understanding that before we could vote to expand, each chapter had to take in quota and be at or near total for a year. That is not likely to happen any time soon. We've had one chapter that's been struggling for quite a few years--since before I went to school, and I've been out three years. Stereotypes have a tendency to follow chapters here--girls of XYZ are the smart girls, girls of ABC are the partiers, girls of KLM are the chapter that takes anyone, etc. . . but there are a few chapters that have changed completely (for the better) while I was in school.

Greekgrrl 02-21-2004 01:13 PM

I'm so glad somebody posted about this! I'm actually working on an online database of every NPC sorority chapter ever and when I'm done you'll be able to sort by things like athletic conference (SEC, Big 12, etc.)

There's already some interesting data, I'll be posting the link when I'm done (in a few months more of data entry :p )

Sister Havana 02-21-2004 01:35 PM

That was really interesting! I'd be really interested to see how things break down in the Big Ten. I know the Greek systems at many of the schools are huge. (IU's is gigantic and isn't the Illinois greek system the largest in the country?)

wreckingcrew 02-21-2004 01:36 PM

Re: Re: NPC Sororities at Big 12 Schools
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dzandiloo
Oh well. My daughter has 11 years until she graduates high school...there's still time for UT to re-colonize DZ so she can go there. Otherwise, my family is going to have to shut up and live with the fact that we will have a little Aggie on our hands 'cuz I'm not letting her go somewhere that DZ's not an option (joke...of course, I'm not that obsessed w/her future Greek life...much).
WHOOP!!

;)

Aggie DZ's are some of the sweetest gals i know.

Kitso
KS 361

exlurker 02-21-2004 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ISUKappa
A few words on Iowa State

Iowa State is down to 13 NPC sororities after the closing of Alpha Xi Delta last year.

At one time we also had Zeta Tau Alpha and Alpha Phi on campus; ZTA closed in 1995 and APhi closed in 1998.

Of the 13, about 7-8 are at total or are very close, 2-3 are under by 10-15 and 2-3 are under by 20 or more. Total is set at 92. Every chapter is housed and the number of members living in ranges from 45-65. Formal recruitment is held the week before classes start in August. On average, 350 girls go through recrutiment and quota is usually set around 20. Chapters are able to COB anytime after formal recruitment, though the big push is usually the month after recruitment and the first month of the second semester.

We also have a chapter of Phi Beta Chi, but they are significantly smaller, unhoused and do informal recruiting only.

I doubt Iowa State will look to expand any time soon. The numbers of girls going through recruitment haven't been increasing and not every chapter has been receiving quota. When I was on Panhellenic, it was my understanding that before we could vote to expand, each chapter had to take in quota and be at or near total for a year. That is not likely to happen any time soon. We've had one chapter that's been struggling for quite a few years--since before I went to school, and I've been out three years. Stereotypes have a tendency to follow chapters here--girls of XYZ are the smart girls, girls of ABC are the partiers, girls of KLM are the chapter that takes anyone, etc. . . but there are a few chapters that have changed completely (for the better) while I was in school.

ISUKappa, thank you! I did not include ISU's recently-closed Alpha Xi Delta chapter in the figures, nor did I include non-NPC Phi Beta Chi. I goofed and said ISU had 14 chapters, when the two Big 12 schools with 14 are Texas-Austin and Nebraska. Duh. I edited my post to fix that.

-- exlurker
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wreckingcrew 02-21-2004 02:50 PM

Re: Re: Fun Fact regarding UNL
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hootie
On another note, two of the inactive chapters, Sigma Kappa and Zeta Tau Alpha, are still present at the University of Nebraska at Omaha. They seem to be doing very well and maybe the Alumni support is a lot stronger around here?
http://www.totallygifted.com.au/images/uno.jpg

:D

Kitso
KS 361

polarpi 02-21-2004 03:01 PM

Re: NPC Sororities at Big 12 Schools
 
Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
Three have chapters at 10 of the 12:

Alpha Delta Pi (not at Colorado or Oklahoma),

Interesting to note, if I'm getting my Colorado school right (Boulder?), and it's University of Oklahoma we're talking about (since I'm unknowledgeable about the Big 12 conference really....go Mid-Continent! :D), ADPi did have chapters at all 12 at one point.

Our Alpha Alpha chapter at University of Colorado - Boulder closed in 1985, and our Gamma Zeta chapter at University of Oklahoma closed in 1970.

ISUKappa 02-21-2004 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
ISUKappa, thank you! I did not include ISU's recently-closed Alpha Xi Delta chapter in the figures, nor did I include non-NPC Phi Beta Chi. I goofed and said ISU had 14 chapters, when the two Big 12 schools with 14 are Texas-Austin and Nebraska. Duh. I edited my post to fix that.
Oh no worries! :) I think it's interesting that Iowa State, which is not as big of a school as say, Oklahoma, is second only to Texas and Nebraska in the number of chapters on campus! Our Greek Communty is strong, despite the usual criticism and the fact we're a "cow college."

I think the last big expansion effort was in the late '60s-early '70s, of which only one of four chapters remains on campus. Incidently, ZTA, was a recolonization (They were originally chartered in 1926 and left campus in 1939).

There's a whole neat history of the Iowa State Greek Community:
ISU Greek History

Okay, I'm done touting my school now.

NutBrnHair 02-21-2004 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ISUKappa
I think it's interesting that Iowa State, which is not as big of a school as say, Oklahoma, is second only to Texas and Nebraska in the number of chapters on campus!
But wasn't OU's quota 76 this year?

bluefish81 02-21-2004 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ISUKappa
I think the last big expansion effort was in the late '60s-early '70s, of which only one of four chapters remains on campus. Incidently, ZTA, was a recolonization (They were originally chartered in 1926 and left campus in 1939).

There's a whole neat history of the Iowa State Greek Community:
ISU Greek History

Okay, I'm done touting my school now.

ISUKappa
Hmm...this is a random question, but where do you suppose the ZTA house was? I'm trying to figure that out thinking about Greekland, and I just can't place them anywhere. If ya don't know, I'll ask one of the other advisers next week when I see them. They were around when ZTA was still on campus.

queequek 02-21-2004 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluefish81
ISUKappa
Hmm...this is a random question, but where do you suppose the ZTA house was? I'm trying to figure that out thinking about Greekland, and I just can't place them anywhere. If ya don't know, I'll ask one of the other advisers next week when I see them. They were around when ZTA was still on campus.

I believe ZTA house was the house between Alpha Xi Delta and Alpha Chi Omega on Lynn, now is an apartment complex.

FYI. Phi Kappa Psi is re-colonize at Iowa State this semester.

bluefish81 02-21-2004 10:53 PM

Oh all right, Alpha Sigs were there for a few yrs. I heard that Phi Psi's were coming back, and when I was at my house the other week to attend chapter, there was a Delt Sig guy there talking about how they were re-establishing as well.

queequek 02-21-2004 11:13 PM

LOL, forgot about Delta Sigs. They are re-colonizing as well. They still live in their house across the street, so I always forget that they were not recognized by the university.
TKE also will come back living in their house in the fall.

If Alpha Sigs occupied the ZTA house for a while, then who lived at current Alpha Sigs house at the Sorority Circle? I know Phi Delts used to live across Pi Kaps, and Phi Psi lived at Sigma Pi house. Sigma Pi used to live in Pikes house at Lincoln Way, before Pikes was re-chartered back in 1998 and kicked them out.
Where was A-Phi house?

:confused: What a long history, eh?

ISUKappa 02-21-2004 11:31 PM

Yes, the ZTA house used to be the old Alpha Sig house, which is now an apartment complex. The Alpha Sig's new house used to be the Sigma Nu old house, Sigma Nu left in 1997 (I think). Phi Taus were originally between FarmHouse and Kappa Sigs, but their house was turned into apartments when they left. The A-Phi house is the current Phi Delt house--it used to be a church. The old Phi Delt house across from Pi Kapps on the other corner of Welch and Knapp is now an apartment complex (imagine that). The Acacia house was originally their house, but when they left campus was turned into a bed and breakfast. When Acacia decided to recolonize, the owners sold them back their house.

Interesting, isn't it!

ISUKappa 02-21-2004 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NutBrnHair
But wasn't OU's quota 76 this year?
That's part of why I think it's interesting. Even though we have lower quota, smaller pledge classes and a smaller recruitment, we still have 13 chapters around. That's not usually something that's associated with a campus that has total under 100. I'm not saying our system is better than theirs--I think there's room for improvement--I just think it's interesting, that's all! :)

PhiPsiRuss 02-21-2004 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by queequek
Phi Psi lived at Sigma Pi house.
That house still is the Phi Psi house, as it is owned by our local alumni corporation. We just finished our initial recolonization in Ames, and we should be rechartered in 2-4 semesters. I don't know when we will reoccupy our house.

ETA changed "months" to semsters because I screwed up.

sageofages 02-21-2004 11:42 PM

Re: NPC Sororities at Big 12 Schools
 
Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
This is sort of dzandiloo's fault -- in the "New Sorority for Clemson" thread in the Rush forum she mentioned wishing that some Big 12 schools would open for expansion so that DZ could present and, hopefully, colonize.

That made me wonder -- what is the general picture of NPC representation at the Big 12 schools (Texas at Austin, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Colorado, Nebraska at Lincoln, and Iowa State)? These are all large or fairly large schools, for the most part, with strong regional or national reputations / school alumni support.

Searches of Panhellenic, Greek life, and inter/national HOs' sites produced these findings -- errors are mine alone, of course, and corrections and updates are welcome (in a couple of instances a school's site still listed a chapter that had recently closed, and I did NOT include those chapters in the following summary).

It appears that there are 144 NPC chapters at the Big 12 schools; Baylor has the smallest number (9), while Nebraska and Texas-Austin each have 14. The others are in between with 10, 11, 12 or 13 chapters.

Six NPC groups have chapters at all 12 schools:

Alpha Chi Omega, Chi Omega, Delta Delta Delta, Kappa Alpha Theta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Pi Beta Phi.

Three have chapters at 10 of the 12:

Alpha Delta Pi (not at Colorado or Oklahoma),
Kappa Delta (not at Colorado or Oklahoma), and Gamma Phi Beta (not at Texas-Austin or Baylor).

One -- Delta Gamma -- has chapters at 8 of the 12 (not at Baylor, Kansas State, Iowa State or Oklahoma State)

One -- Zeta Tau Alpha -- has chapters at 7 of the 12 (not at Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Nebraska, or Colorado).

Alpha Phi is at 5 of the 12.

Alpha Omicron Pi and Phi Mu are each at 4 of the 12.

Alpha Gamma Delta, Alpha Xi Delta, and Sigma Kappa are each at 3 of the 12.

Delta Zeta and Sigma Delta Tau are each at 2.

Alpha Epsilon Phi is at one.

And six NPC groups apparently do not currently have chapters at any Big 12 school: Alpha Sigma Alpha, Alpha Sigma Tau, Delta Phi Epsilon, Phi Sigma Sigma, Sigma Sigma Sigma, and Theta Phi Alpha.

What the reasons are, I have no idea -- probably combinations of regional alumnae bases, funds needed for housing / colonization, the views of individual NPC groups as to their "niches," geographic factors like nearby chapters in similar schools, plus luck and the accidents of history.

Has anyone else looked at the NPC -- or IFC or NPHC -- makeup of another conference? I'll bet there are some that are very different from the Big 12!

You overlooked Phi Mu completely. We have chapters at Oklahoma, Nebraska and Missouri.

ETA: geez, I should read better....

bluefish81 02-21-2004 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
That house still is the Phi Psi house, as it is owned by our local alumni corporation. We just finished our initial recolonization in Ames, and we should be rechartered in 2-4 months. I don't know when we will reoccupy our house.
Really, you're going to reoccupy the house? I was told by our president the other week that it was being sold to the Sigma Pi's, not true?

PhiPsiRuss 02-22-2004 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluefish81
Really, you're going to reoccupy the house? I was told by our president the other week that it was being sold to the Sigma Pi's, not true?
I was in Ames this summer, and attended a reception with Iowa Beta (the name of the ISU Phi Psi chapter) house corp. officers, Iowa State administrators, and other members of our Executive Council. They intended to reoccupy the house then. Also, I was in contact with our Director of Expansion, while he was recolonizing last month, and he was in discussions with the house corp. as to when, not if, we would reoccupy.

Why would we sell that house? Doesn't make sense.

OleMissGlitter 02-22-2004 12:11 AM

Interesting information. I love to hear about this sort of information and facts!

exlurker 02-22-2004 12:25 AM

Re: Re: NPC Sororities at Big 12 Schools
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sageofages
You overlooked Phi Mu completely. We have chapters at Oklahoma, Nebraska and Missouri.

ETA: geez, I should read better....

LOL sageofages, no problem! Besides the three chapters you mentioned, you also have Epsilon Nu at Oklahoma State, according to the Phi Mu national web site and one of OSU's web pages.

bluefish81 02-22-2004 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I was in Ames this summer, and attended a reception with Iowa Beta (the name of the ISU Phi Psi chapter) house corp. officers, Iowa State administrators, and other members of our Executive Council. They intended to reoccupy the house then. Also, I was in contact with our Director of Expansion, while he was recolonizing last month, and he was in discussions with the house corp. as to when, not if, we would reoccupy.

Why would we sell that house? Doesn't make sense.

That's what I thought. She could have just been confused, I thought it was a bit strange. I'm sure you're right.

SiempreCansada 03-02-2004 04:10 AM

Mizzou (U of MO-Columbia; Big 12)
 
Mizzou (GO TIGERS!!!) has chapters of...

NPC:
Alpha Delta Pi
Alpha Phi
Alpha Chi Omega
Gamma Phi Beta
Delta Gamma
Delta Delta Delta
Zeta Tau Alpha
Kappa Alpha Theta
Kappa Delta
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Pi Beta Phi
Sigma Kappa
Phi Mu
Chi Omega

NPHC sororities:
Alpha Kappa Alpha
Delta Sigma Theta
Zeta Phi Beta
Sigma Gamma Rho

Latina sorority:
Sigma Lambda Gamma

aggieAXO 03-02-2004 04:51 AM

I believe Gamma Phi is no longer at Texas Tech.

kstar 03-02-2004 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NutBrnHair
But wasn't OU's quota 76 this year?
No, quota was 92.

dzandiloo 03-02-2004 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aggieAXO
I believe Gamma Phi is no longer at Texas Tech.
That's correct-they left about 3 years ago, I think (Phi Mu & SK also have had chapters at Tech in the past). They currently have DG, KD, ADPi, AXO, KKG, XO, PiPhi, APhi, ZTA, Theta and Tri-Delt.

ADPiZXalum 03-02-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kstar
No, quota was 92.
DEAR LORD. that's a lot of girls.
The new Panhellenic advisor person at UT is an ADPi. She was a Traveling Chapter Consultant my junior year and spent some time at Baylor helping our chapter. Anyway, Sigma Kappa I know used to be at Baylor and maybe DZ, I'm not sure about that one. random thoughts for the day

Buttonz 03-02-2004 02:34 PM

Awsome thread!

Glad to see SDT represented!


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