Constructive Criticism & Advice vs. Being Rude
 

much respect...

as i read the thread "Do Sisterfriends really want help...." (paraphrased) i smiled to myself. While i consider myself a sisterfriend due to the fact that i have friends and relatives who are members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. i am not interested in becoming a member myself...so i have no vested interest in my posts.

the question was posed to those interested in Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. but i would like to ask a couple of questions about the issue...and so being respectful of the moderators request i felt compelled to start a new thread.

while there are plenty of interests both on the net and off who are rude, because with MIP they know they can get away with it. and for members there is a sense of one not being able to "win for losing".

but there is a difference between giving an interest constructive criticism and being out and out rude. i have seen both of these things on this message board and in "real life". there are several members of this esteemed organization such as Discogoddess who whenever i read her posts i applaude and pass her words onto my friends and relatives who are members because she is concise but always respectful and polite. and on the other hand there are quite a number of members who are just out and out rude.

considering the fact that we are all adults and no one has any children who post to this board why is it that some get away with being rude and when an interest or someone who isn't an interest posts what is in her mind she is immediately blasted.

it is true that there must be some humility when one is inquiring into the ins and outs of any organization...in particular a private organization and/or secret society.

my friends and relatives would say consistently that Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. wants women who are individuals and not cookie cutters and yet...some of the young women who post and are interested are shunned for being just that. while the others who give answers that quite frankly is no where near being humble but humiliating...they are praised and given respect.

so what is the difference between giving constructive criticism and being out and out rude?

there is another part to this...we are on a computer...and we really cannot "hear" inflection in individuals voices...so what might be perceived as rude either way...may not be. but we do have these "smilies" that mean something. and there is enough history of those who have been rude with their words to understand where they are coming from.

i anticipate either this thread will be deleted or locked or i will receive rude replies and some constructive replies. but i caution you...this is not meant to disrespect anyone...but to spark conversation.

as for the women of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. i have great respect for most of you. having grown up around the company of women who are members of your organization and have witnessed them through what they learned ,both pre & post intake, from your organization that they are achieving a greater goal unified through sisterhood than they could have ever done alone. but there is one thing that they have taught me and that is to stand up for what i believe in...something they enhanced while members but what they lived before they were.

peace

And so your purpose for this thread is...what exactly? Please, no long reply. As Discogoddess has said before, you can't read someone's TONE. So, what you may take as rude, someone may take as constructive criticism or the other way around.

Since you are not in our shoes, then you may not know why we react the way we. Sometimes we have good reason to. Since you are on the outside looking in, you may not see it that way.





[This message has been edited by AKAtude (edited May 15, 2001).]

I have to agree with lastpoet. Rudeness and disrespect occurs on both sides of the gate. (I see this in all of black greekkdom, not just AKA.)

I am not referring to the ladies that suggest SF's perform searches, visit the national website, or talk to members on there campuses when responding to some of the FAQ's that we see so often on this board. I am referring to the ones that respond with LMAO, no she didn't, WTH, etc...etc.... I think that the only way these responses can be taken as is rude. It sometimes seems that some forget the humility that they have been taught once they make it to the other side.

Sometimes the only way that people know how to deal with perceived hostility, is to become hostile and defensive in return. And it just starts an ugly cycle. Some SF's might not see there comments as disrespectful; they may just be trying to stand their ground, stick up for themselves and their beliefs, and show some spine. These are qualities that we see in the women that we wish to emulate. But there is a way to do it.

Also, many of this questions are posed by first time posters. I make it a habit to check the poster each time I run across one of these FAQ type posts, to see if s(he) is familiar. More often than not, s(he) is not. And while some of these questions might be the result of stupidity and audacity, most are simply the result of ignorance.

In those situations where boldness and disrespect are the culprits, I applauded those who break it down from these misguided posters. But I give a standing ovation to those who manage to do it, while maintaining decorum.

Solutions? Maybe a FAQ section on the board, somewhere where new posters can see it immediately.

Maybe good advice to any new poster is to check things out first before jumping in and getting in over their heads. I don't see why we need a FAQ section for that. Like we said, we are not obligated to provide information or answer questions.

If people don't like what we say or how we come across, simply use the power of the mouse and click away. I for one, will not change my attitude to satisfy a few. It's amazing how much people complain about the way they are treated but keeping coming back, not just to this forum but any for that matter.

http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif Not really directed to anyone, so please don't get upset. I just think that things are expected to be too easy by SFs and some wear their hearts on their sleeves. I feel that had some of the people interested now would have been back in the day (old enough to be in college 70s''80s, 90s') They would have NEVER made in on the the Real. They would have ran away crying. No I am not saying I want to be hazed, I am just saying I want to one day wear the letters of AKA with pride IF I am selected, I want to know that I earned them through hard work and perserverance. My first question will be to my Big Sisters, "How do I become a LIFE MEMBER." I mean every word I say. Sorry about the broken post, I am typing fast because I am on my lunch break. Please forgive any errors.

Little32, Honey the whole Internet is a FAQ section. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/cool.gif

I don't generally complain about how I am treated. I don't post that often, so there is little opportunity for me to unknowingly make a mistake and then be chastised for it. (Though when I do post, even if it not in relation to your organization, I find myself being chastised anyway.) I learn all that I need to know by watching what others do.
But I think AKAtude that what you said is interesting. You will not change your attitude for just a few. Maybe these interests feel the same way. Maybe this board represents "just a few" who don't like the way that they come across--for whatever reason. Maybe they don't see their actions as offensive to the whole, but maybe to a few. Maybe their interactions with ladies on their campus are always pleasant and then they come here and are told they are in the wrong. Just something to consider.

I'm not referring to you when I mention those who complain. There have been quite a few in the past.

No, I will not change my attitude but I already have my letters. It is those who are interested that want something from US. If they are going to enter a sorority's forum seeking information, they better check themselves and the attitude.

Do you really think they would give members on their campus the attitudes that they give us? Would they treat them the same way? I don't think so!

I also get the feeling that people think that we are hurting for membership. Otherwise, why oh why would we change our views and our attitudes for the "dissatisfied few?" Been there done that in 1913. Ain't nothin' changed.

much respect...

possibly there is another reason why rudeness is traded back and forth...that reason being: assumption.

assumption on the part of members that all women who post are somehow "digging for info" or just trying to be buddy buddy to get in good.
assumption on the part of the interests that they "deserve" to know everything about an organization.

both are completely wrong. i post here and on many many other forums...*when i have the time*...because i love good conversation and debate. i have actually used some of the arguments for or against issues that i have seen on this forum and others in my "real life" because they helped me reshape an already existing opinion that i held or even helped me argue effectively against an opinion that someone else holds just by getting various opinions through this forum and others.

i come back because regardless of people being rude or considerate...it is interesting.

interests need to understand that the internet, forums, websites etc. are the last stops to an otherwise long search into what organization is the best fit. so don't just "expect" to get the answer here...there are books and "real life" people that can help you much more than the internet can.

sorry if my post was too long...this just popped into my mind.

peace

p.s. after reading the post after mine...i was concerned that i would be perceived as trying to "speak for" Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. let me just make sure that from here on out it is understood...so there will be no confusion...i am in no way shape or form a member or attempting to be a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. i don't want any issues surrounding any incorrect perceptions on either end of the spectrum.

just had to add this...sorry it ran so long.

[This message has been edited by lastpoetnsite (edited May 15, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by lastpoetnsite (edited May 15, 2001).]

But what if they do? And it is acceptable? Then they come here and suddenly it is intolerable.
Now I am not talking about the interests who are just out and out disrespectful. You know the "you don't have anything to do with my process or my chances so I can say whatever I want", or the ones that come here to snap off because--for whatever reason--they feel wronged by your organization. (Do what you will with those.)
I refer to the ones that are new to the game, or might accidentally ask the wrong question, step on a lot of toes, and then seek only to defend themselves from the barrage of responses.
I am talking about the ones who are sincerely interested, not just seeking to start drama. Some folks just don't know, some folks don't even know how to get their foot in the door. And they come here to find out. And regardless of how "stupid" their question is, how inappropriate or arrogant, no one deserves to be treated with disrespect.
I was one of those folks and I am quite thankful for the internet. Just from coming to forums like this I have learned what I should and should not do. Much of that knowledge coming from the way that members respond to questions that I would--at one time--have been crazy enough and ill-informed enough to ask and, in sone cases, actually have asked, to people, in person. (When I did, the yound lady I was talking to was very polite in her response. She wasn't rude, dismissive, or ridiculing. And I really appreciated that.) There were many times, when I first started coming here, that I have winced when reading member responses to questions that I never knew you shouldn't ask.
Again, I understand that you are not obligated to SF's in any way shape or form, I am just trying to show you the other side of things.

Lastpoet, that's a good point but it's not always assumption. It's being on guard at all times. Sometimes people are digging for information, sometimes they are just plain nosey, and sometimes they just want to be disruptive.

You come back regardless because it's interesting. Some come back because they want to challenge us. Hiding behind a username somehow gives them the false assumption that they are protected (little did VS know...but that's another thread).

I KNOW the other side of things. I was there. I wasn't born with AKA stamped across my chest. So, I haven't forgotten.

My advice for the internet has always been to observe and when in doubt, don't ask or do it by private e-mail. I have also seen sisterfriends apologize for their ignorance in advance stating they aren't sure if the question is appropriate or not. However, some people try to use the "I'm ignorant" excuse to their advantage.

What do you mean by is it acceptable? If you are referring to their attitude, no it's not whether is in cyberspace or in person.

We have well over 14,000 posts on this forum alone. I'm sure that we have touched on just about every topic imaginable. So, coming in this late in the game there is a wealth of information to be had and mistakes to learn from.

I think that this a very good topic for a forum. Therefore I would like to give my input. I have been a sisterfriend for a long time now, and up until yesterday I thought that I was pretty much on my p's and q's about the does and don't of those pursuing there pearls. Just like DG posted the forum about grammatical errors, I will admit I didnt find it cute at all. I kinda felt like she was singling me out, especially by using me as an example. After reading that I immediately replied to her post because I felt like it was directed towards me. Me stating my opinion and the way that I felt, some of the members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. felt like I was being disrespectful. I felt that I wasn't. I was only stating my thoughts. I know that some jumped down my throat immediately, and it let me with a bad taste in my mouth. I mean those comments ran through my mind all day. When I got on line this morning, I immediately apologized because I would never want to disrespect anyone or something that they represent and hold dear to their hearts. Looking at my post from all angles and someone's point of view I could see how it could be misconstued as harsh, although I didnt think so. I think that these forums have no place for rudeness on either side. It's not fair to anyone and it is getting us no where but to forum like this that we are on.

much respect...

AKAtude...yes, some folx are doing some shady business on a forum (even i cannot defend VS...she was out there and thats disappointing) that could be, and in most cases has been, a good place for information. and sad to say one bad apple can and does spoil a bunch.

and you are right most people would never dare talk to someone in person the way they talk over the net. if questioned, most of those people have never even tried to approach a member in "real life".

from my experience with organizations from service to political to social that i have been interested in required me to get to know the people first as people and not as "such and such member of XYZ". my mentor in fact is a member of a HBGLO but knowing him as a human rather than letters has been the most rewarding experience of all.

no one should have to "change" who they are when answering questions...but a level of respect on both sides isn't too difficult to achieve.

peace

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Okay lastpoetinsite-

You want to know the real reason why I get nasty with some girls that post on a board for Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc? And I can only speak for myself. Because it is easy. Maybe I am testing. Maybe I want to see their valued self worth. Maybe I want to "yank" their chain. Whatever the reason, I want to "probe" deeper into the recesses of their mind to see where they are coming from or what is really going on in there. I think we stay on this nice and fluffy surface and I choose not to live my life that way. There are some people I will never do that to. There are others that walk into it.

Usually, what sets me off is when a person bashes my Sorority, or any HBGLO sorority. Or when there are issues that come to race and racism. Or when some of the college students are having trouble defending themselves--I feel compelled to step in on their behalf because I am a lot older. Most of the time, I make jokes. However, when I have to put a person in check or as my college kids say, "holla" then I take it on. It's my choice. I can always drop out because I'm really not getting paid for my advice...

Other times, when I "push buttons" I want to really learn what's really going on. I ask, "Who is this person that is coming up in here wrecking havoc?" And personally, I didn't have a problem with chicky, VS (eh, it may be a man Soror AKAtude http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif). I have yet to care what some say. It doesn't pay my light bill... Sometimes, the hard, rude and ugly questions and responses have to be made. C'est la vie.

I can tell you this. And this is not even close to a joke. If you were to decide to pursue graduate school for a Ph.D., especially in science, the professors, even your major professor WILL be ugly toward you. I don't care how good you are. Just about everyone I know who has gone thru a Ph.D. program has lamented on it's difficulty. That is why there are so few people with Ph.D.'s And I havta admit, pledging Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. helped me sooooo much to understand that aspect. Moreover, my big sister couldn't have said it clearer, "I wish I could pledge again, that was the easy part."

And when a girl decides to bash my Sorority, I guess it hurts a lot of us because of the fond memories we had as undergraduates. ('Cuz most of the bashing comes from undergraduate interests). It hurts us that someone would think so little of my Sorority and say such ugly things no matter how they qualify it, e.g. "I know this is not the whole sorority, but..." These bashers are still talking about my Sorors. I made a pledge to ALL Sorors and I have to uphold it and I take my sisterhood vows skeriously. Yes, I love my Pink and Green and my pearls!!! And it is beyond me that one does not respect that, skeriously. So, that's why I come right back, remove all the BS and go for the jugular--to either squash it or to see what the mentality is... That's just me.

What I mean by acceptable, is that perhaps what you perceive as attitude isn't. In the same way that we misinterpret the tone of some of the members posts, perhaps you all sometimes misinterpret the tone of ours. Also, you say that all members are different. So what seems offensive to one, is not necessarily going to be offensive to another. I have actually seen conversations to that affect; for instance, whether it is appropriate for a non member to purchase 'nalia. Some members don't care about it, while others would have a problem. The same could be said for what types of conversations certain members approve of. Some might be a bit more liberal. (I am not saying this would be the situation every time, but it could possibly be the situation.)

much respect...

precisely you cannot read someones tone. but in just what you said i could misconstrue it as being rude. but i'm not. i am hoping that you are asking me the point of my thread not to be rude...but as if you are really interested.

i am merely asking what is the difference in being rude and giving constructive criticism? and if there is a difference do members and non-members know or even care about the differences.

and while i know that i am on the outside looking in...i have showed some posts that i thought were rude to members and asked...whether it was just me and they agreed that it wasn't just me being oversensitive to rudeness.

also i emailed you in regards to the guidelines of how long a post should be. if you could get back to me i would appreciate it.

peace

[This message has been edited by lastpoetnsite (edited May 15, 2001).]

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[This message has been edited by Conskeeted19 (edited May 16, 2001).]

There are no guidelines for how long a post should or shouldn't be. I've just noticed that your posts tend to be a bit lenghty.

The difference between being rude and constructive criticism depends on how you take it. Some people who ask questions are either bold or simply ignorant. Sometimes we make every attempt to be as polite as possible.

However, when you get someone that tries to ask the same question a dozen different ways thinking they will get a different answer or more information, it becomes annoying. Therefore, IMO you have to just "break it down" to them. If they or someone else sees that as being rude, then so be it. We are not obligated to give any information. Too often people think they are entitled to know.

Then, there are those people who are just sensitive. If you ask a question, then you run the risk of putting yourself out there. You can't read the tone in which the reply is meant, and sometimes things are taken the wrong way which causes the the person to become defensive.

Take Soror DG's post from yesterday regarding grammatical errors. I thought it was cute, but not everyone took it that way. They thought she was being "rude" or trying to "single them out". She was only trying to offer advice and be helpful. I think Ms_Thang has seen that and now understands the intent. It was simply what she perceived.

much respect...

i will try in the future to make sure my posts are too long. thank you for the heads up.

i agree with everything you said. those who continue to ask and ask when the answer is given need a heads up...and sometimes its not always nice.

but we must also remember that as adults there are ways that we must talk to each other...rudeness on both ends of the spectrum is both unnecessary and ignorant...i'm sure you would agree.

peace

That I agree with.

As a sisterfriend, I can honestly say that no one EVER said joining Alpha Kappa Alpha would be easy. It definitely hasn't been easy for me or any of the other young ladies I know. So, for those of you SFs who can't take a few bumps, bruises, hurtful comments or words, then maybe you should try something else or it isn't your time. I tire of seeing all of the whining and crying that sometimes comes from sisterfriends on this board. Either throw a pity party and lick your wounds or suck it up and move on! There are those of us who know that for something you REALLY want, you have to toughen your exterior because you're sure to come out with a few scratches.

"What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger."

SC

P.S. My tone is one of absolute disbelief because I've held my peace for as long as I could while listening to ladies of the organization repeat the same thing.

That's right! Swallow those tears! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

much respect...

moderators now the above post from NYMinute is one that i can safely say should have been left up to an email. although my email is not listed here. if NYMinute had really read my webpage it is clearly listed there.

You are an interest NYMinute and I am not. But if I was a member you would be the first person that I would not want to call a sister. You just made some grave and widespread assumptions about me/my personality/intention and what not. I will not make any assumptions about you. Only to say if you are really interested in a discussion then you can feel free to email me.

To others: regardless of what seems to be insinuated by NYMinute's post. i am not here to divide only to discuss various topics.

Peace

NYMinute, at first I thought what you were thinking (refer back to my first post in this thread). However, Lastpoet has brought up some good points (including those from other threads).

I think the question she has posed to sisterfriends is legitimate. I was going to refrain from answering the question until others have had the chance to respond, but I guess I will do it now.

Although it hasn't happened in quite a while, I'v noticed that some sisterfriends will jump on the bandwagon and criticsize a fellow sisterfriend. I said in another thread regarding the GPA issue that I wouldn't want a LS like that. If all of you are truly interested in achieving the same goal, then help one another along the way.

If you have something critical to say, share it in an e-mail. If a sisterfriend is in your opinion "whining" or "complaining", gently let them know or leave it for a soror to do.

NYMinute...

With all due respect, I don't think the fun has been siphoned out of the boards at all. I think it gives the forums a nice balance to have "fun" topics and "serious" ones. I, for one, enjoy reading some of the interesting questions and scenarios posted here, whether they are posted by lastpoetnsite or by anyone else, for that matter. Ain't nothin' wrong with a little intellectual stimulation. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

In addition, I think that you're making a lot of negative and unfounded assumptions about lastpoetnsite based upon information you read on her website and here on the forums. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif

Lastly, yes, this is a public forum, one where folks are free to voice their opinions, but I think that your comments to lastpoetnsite could have been communicated through private email. No need to insult/bash anyone on post. That just creates unnecessary drama.

Thank you everyone for your responses to my post. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

:ROLLEYES: LASTPOET, I THINK YOUR PRETTY SMART AND ALL BUT YOU KEEP SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AN AKA, SO WHY ARE YOU SOOOO CONCERNED WITH WHAT MEMBERS AND THOSE INTERESTED ARE DOING. YOU SEEM LIKE A BEE IN A BONNET JUST TRYING REALLY HARD TO STIR UP SOMETHING. I COMMEND ALL THE YOUNG LADIES ON THIS FORUM, MEMBERFRIENDS AND SISTERFRIENDS FOR NOT INDULGING IN YOUR MESS, BUT I JUST HAVE TO BE HONEST WHEN I SAY YOU ARE STARTING TO WORK MY NERVES, NO DISRESPECT INTENDED , I AM JUST BEING HONEST :ROLLEYES:

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Interesting thoughts EndRoad........

Very good Bee in the Bonnet analogy

i love peeking my head in to my sisters in greekdom, because they have great topics.

lastpoet and brand nubian make valid points and several people have answered intelligently. it seems the people that have the problem don't know how to answer the questions.

does one have to be a member to indulge in intelligent conversation??? it is not a matter of stirring things up....one must no how to handle emotions and speak intelligent.

my advice...get over it and keep on keeping on.





[This message has been edited by MaMaBuddha (edited May 16, 2001).]

My thoughts exactly.

It is not that I don't know how to answer the questions it is just that I choose not to be analyzed by someone on the net. I admit that LastPoet brings some interesting topics to the table but it is continuous questioning and demanding of validation for something that to me is very emotional, which is my quest to become a member of the FIRST AND FINEST, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

much respect...

so because i'm asking questions and maybe asking everyone to think about how they approach one another...specifically interests...that means that i am starting trouble?

from my standpoint i am merely passing on the knowledge that i have received in my pursuit of other organizations whether they be social, political, service, or a combination of both.

i have learned that no one "gets in good" with the members if they are critical (in the worst sense) of a fellow interest or even just someone who is outside of the whole interest/member circle.

i have also learned that sometimes members are "rude" because as AKA_Monet clearly pointed out as a way to challenge an interest. Or because they are just really rude. or because there is an assumption of intent that has been misinterpreted.

i was personally not trying to start any trouble but i was trying to point out that while some interests are rude...to one another, to others outside of the interest/member circle, and to members...there are other interests and sisterfriends who seek and take advice...even perceived or real..."rude" criticism and comments to heart and they do want members help.

if anyone would like to negatively criticize me they may do so at my email address.

my only assumption is that the last question (and thank you AKAtude for thinking that it is a worthy question...i appreciate it!) hit home in so many ways.

peace

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by lastpoetnsite:
[b]much respect...

does it strike some of you as odd that those of you who are interests are not helping one another? if a fellow interest is "whining" about what a member has said...wouldn't it behoove you...considering you both want to be members and if accepted will be calling one another sisters...to lend a helping hand to one another in times of need. no you cannot answer some questions...but there are those who have been researching longer and possibly could help the newer ones in their journey so that they would not have to be singled out.

if interests to this board were on line together would they make it? maybe or maybe not. my mother has always said...and its been said on this board and many others...that there is no "I" when you are pledging/intake. all of you as interests are in the same boat together. how is there a show of "sisterhood" when an interest is quick to down another interest?

if i was a member of an organization the interests that put down other interests in my presence would be the ones that i would definitely not be interested in having as sisters. if you cannot help one another in the initial process of just doing research...how can you truly be unified when doing the later processes?


Lastpoet:

How do you know we're not e-mailing one another? In a perfect world, everyone who had an interest in Alpha Kappa Alpha would help one another and everything would be honky dory. In a perfect world, everyone who THOUGHT they were the ideal prospects for Alpha Kappa Alpha would become members. However, as you and I both know, this world is by no means perfect.

There have been times during my quest when I have attempted to form bonds with other prospects (in REAL LIFE as you put it) and had it not work out AT ALL. At the Rush I attended, the graduate advisor told us that this is a competition and some will make it and some won't. While there is sisterhood promoted between some prospects (and don't think there isn't), it's sad to say that there are still some ladies who care about no one but themselves. Here's a perfect example. At my university, there were instances of prospects taking down posters announcing programs, events, and even Rush. (The ladies at the chapter announced at a program that they saw some people taking fliers down and they wanted them to stop.) There are only so many fliers posted, so why would you want to risk some other young lady not knowing the information for the sake of eliminating the competition? Because there are still some very selfish people in this world.

I have found that prospects are more receptive to information from other prospects in the cyber world though. I believe it's because they see no threat from this person.

Lastpoet, I will say that your questions are thought provoking, but as much as we would like (you and me both included) we can't save the world.

Excuse the long post, but thanks for those who did read it.

SC

much respect...

SouthernCook it is great if you are emailing one another. but i can guarantee you there is someone out there who read my suggestion who never even thought about that.

my only thing is to "jump on the bandwagon" as AKAtude said and criticize another interest on post is surely not getting anyone cool points. and then what does that say of sisterhood?

in a perfect world we would, regardless of affiliation race creed religion etc., look out for one another. but we don't.
but i would have to say that while pursuing membership is a competition of sorts it is at the heart of it all a test in sisterhood.

and believe me trying to save the world is too much of a stress but trying to save a little corner of the world i occupy is always my goal!

thanks for responding

peace



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Why don't people just answer the questions at hand and stop questioning the questions? This is why there is never a solution.

Lastpoetnsite asked a very good question/gave a good suggestion to a problem on GC. What was the reply? A personal attack that could have been sent in email or not sent at all because it had nothing to do with the topic.
So what if she isn't interested in whatever org. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif She can post whatever she pleases just like many of you guys do all the time.

If you do what she questioned then you really don't have anything to say. If you aren't doing what she is questioning, then think about it.

I mean some sisterfriends will say that the members have a "attitude" or are "rude", but look at the way you address each other. Members we will never get respect if the sisterfriends don't respect themselves or each other. Some of you guys are acting UGLY and it's so unnecessary.

"BUT I JUST HAVE TO BE HONEST WHEN I SAY YOU ARE STARTING TO WORK MY NERVES, NO DISRESPECT INTENDED"- If that isn't an oxymoron. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif