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exlurker 01-20-2004 04:29 AM

Lexus + Bid Day + Booze = Trouble at Vandy
 
Thank heaven there were only minor injuries! However, a traffic accident apparently could lead to an investigation about possible / alleged violation of alcohol-free sorority Bid Day rules at Vanderbilt. The Vanderbilt Hustler's January 20 story is at

http://www.vanderbilthustler.com/vne.../400cc7d768bfc

Just another reason to say it again: don't drink and drive.

Be safe out there, people.

33girl 01-20-2004 11:15 AM

Re: Lexus + Bid Day + Booze = Trouble at Vandy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
Just another reason to say it again: don't drink and drive.

Especially not in a LEXUS!! For crying out loud, borrow your little brother's crappy Ford Escort.

:p yes I'm kidding - how spread out is this campus? I never understand why college students drink and drive in the first place.

and the fact that the newspaper is called "The Hustler" never fails to crack me up.

DolphinChicaDDD 01-20-2004 12:33 PM

Re: Re: Lexus + Bid Day + Booze = Trouble at Vandy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl


:p yes I'm kidding - how spread out is this campus? I never understand why college students drink and drive in the first place.

.

neither do i........which is why we take a drunk bus!!! (i swear, this man is rich because of me)
i am always against, and don't get into cars with people who have had more than one drink. and none of this one drink an hour crap. one drink the whole night.

sugar and spice 01-20-2004 02:13 PM

Our drunk bus is free. :p

Ditto on the "Hustler" thing.

Jill1228 01-20-2004 02:26 PM

Re: Re: Lexus + Bid Day + Booze = Trouble at Vandy
 
Yeah I hear ya! Don't EFF up your Lexus!
It was a good thing that no one was seriously injured!

My sister (bio) was hit head on by a DD on St. Patty's Day 1998 :mad: How she survived, I dunno (she wasn't wearing a seatbelt). Her leg was broken in 7 places and a few facial lacerations.

But do NOT drink and drive...is it worth losing your freedom and having blood on your hands? :confused:

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Especially not in a LEXUS!! For crying out loud, borrow your little brother's crappy Ford Escort.

:p yes I'm kidding - how spread out is this campus? I never understand why college students drink and drive in the first place.

and the fact that the newspaper is called "The Hustler" never fails to crack me up.


ZTAngel 01-20-2004 02:31 PM

Because she decided to drink and drive, she has now embarrassed herself, her family, and her sorority.

I think all schools should have a drunk bus. While we all laugh about it and we sometimes hate when we have to sit by some obnoxious drunk on the way home when you feel really sick, it was a wonderful thing. It took me from downtown back to UCF safely a countless number of times. For that, I thank you drunk bus.

I chuckled when I saw "The Hustler", too.

NutBrnHair 01-20-2004 02:37 PM

Of course my first thought was...I'm glad no one was hurt.

My second thought after reading this in "The Hustler" was...
How sad to drive a Lexus and not drink a better champagne!

"Found inside the defendant’s vehicle was an open bottle of Skyy vodka and an empty bottle of Cook’s champagne."

PsychTau 01-20-2004 03:45 PM

Glad no one was hurt, although they could have been (didn't I read where the Saab flipped? Scary. :eek:

Guys, please be safe on the roads. Watch out for other drivers as well. You never know what's going to happen.

I did have to giggle a bit when telling this story to my husband. It sounded like all the "bad sorority girl stereotypes" wrapped up in one article!!!

exlurker 01-20-2004 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NutBrnHair
Of course my first thought was...I'm glad no one was hurt.

My second thought after reading this in "The Hustler" was...
How sad to drive a Lexus and not drink a better champagne!

"Found inside the defendant’s vehicle was an open bottle of Skyy vodka and an empty bottle of Cook’s champagne."

Well, NutBrnHair, you made me curious. I had never heard of Cook's, but most of the wonderful world of wine and liquor is a mystery to me. Listings and ratings for "Champagne" turned up the familiar names, but not Cook's. So I tried "sparkling" and bingo! It isn't a Champagne at all, at least not according to French law, but one review said Cook's was a pretty good value in its price class IF you found it on sale for under $5 a bottle. Now I see your point: we're not talking about serious competition with Veuve Clicquot, Roederer, Dom Perignon and the like.

:D Snicker :D Lifelong learning -- that's what GC is about!

FSUZeta 01-20-2004 05:22 PM

nutbrnhair
 
you crack me up!!!lol!!

Tom Earp 01-20-2004 08:04 PM

Because of a Treaty sorry cannot remember when, a treaty was not signed by The USA, China, and Russia about Champagne.

Can Call it Champagne. Now, Asti Treaty was decided to fall it Asti because of The Region of Asti,(Italy) such as the same way as Champagne of France!

Signifies Sparkling wing! Yes Cooks is a semi priced wine of sparkling wine!

So What!!.

This Young lady is getting cruxified for have Alchohol and driving. Is it bad, yes.:(

Is it bad she was driving a Lexus, no! She or Her Parents have the Wheathrall to buy one for her.

They were out celebrating! Now We are ---------, Her.

Caste The first Stone and tell, I never did this!:(

It becomes a Very Bad Thing! Why, because She was a Memeber of a Sotorty!

Oh, she was not a member of mine or a Fraternity! It do happen Folks! We have all been there! Right or wrong!:eek:

DolphinChicaDDD 01-20-2004 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Our drunk bus is free. :p

Ditto on the "Hustler" thing.

I wish our drunk bus was free!!!
Maybe I should point out this drunk bus takes us to the bars and back(and usually Atlantic City), since there is nothing on campus or within walking distance...but I do long for the Drunk Buses a la Rutgers.
There is talk of making the campus dry, which I am worried will already make matters worse, and lead to instances just like this one.

ISUKappa 01-20-2004 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Our drunk bus is free. :p
So is ours! It's run by the University/city bus system. You could come away with some great stories after a night riding the drunk bus, oh wait, I mean "Moonlight Express"

GeekyPenguin 01-20-2004 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ISUKappa
So is ours! It's run by the University/city bus system. You could come away with some great stories after a night riding the drunk bus, oh wait, I mean "Moonlight Express"
Here at the MU we have a fleet of vans to chauffer us around. We love those little vans.

Tom Earp 01-21-2004 06:18 PM

Was down at The Chapter House one weekend and only one lonely sole was there! Party time and He was the designated Driver.!

I told Him, you have got to be kidding, that you guys came up with this!:D Wow, I was Impressed. Made a few Runs with him and I thought, how many Brothers and Dates can this save!:)

I hate the thing, Oh, It Was a Soroity Group!:mad: Perish the Friggen Thought that they had a Greek Name with them. What about the GDI or Indepentents who do the same same and dont get Names and Orgizations in the News!:(

vandy_violet 01-21-2004 07:15 PM

I knew y'all would get to this eventually when I saw the Bid Day article posted but I didn't want to be the one to start this. Interestingly, when a rape occurred at a fraternity house (not by a member, though), the newspaper would not publish the name of the fraternity or more than vague details, yet when a sorority girl gets in trouble...It's kind of that "boys will be boys" mentality.
There IS a "drunk bus" on campus-it's called SafeTrips, but it runs at night, so people don't have to walk around alone, and anyway, under normal circumstances people aren't driving drunk during the day. I had to ride it a lot freshman year when my friends lived in the "party dorm" across campus-and drunk, obnoxious people certainly used it. Besides the people who were hit, the people who will most unfairly suffer from this incident are the new Theta members. We don't know yet what the consequences will be, but they could have their Bid Party taken away, etc. New members' unofficial nights out w/ actives in many houses are being cancelled for the time being. Unfortunately, I doubt that incidents like this are as uncommon on campuses as we would like to think...

Tom Earp 01-21-2004 07:46 PM

vandy_violet,

Thank You for your post!:cool:

While I have been and vistited, I have not lived there! Your insight is a big help in trying to understand!

No One wants to Hear SAny Of This Trash when it comes to Greeks, But, We are always in the spot light!:(

exlurker 01-21-2004 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vandy_violet
. . . Besides the people who were hit, the people who will most unfairly suffer from this incident are the new Theta members. We don't know yet what the consequences will be, but they could have their Bid Party taken away, etc. New members' unofficial nights out w/ actives in many houses are being cancelled for the time being. Unfortunately, I doubt that incidents like this are as uncommon on campuses as we would like to think...
Vandy Violet, excellent points! The timing probably makes the situation even stickier than it already is -- January 24 is the 100th birthday of the Kappa Alpha Theta chapter at Vanderbilt. (There's an article about it on the national Theta web site; three national presidents of Theta were from that chapter.)

If -- and I say if, because we don't know all the facts -- an investigation about violating an NPC Unanimous Agreement is finding evidence of a problem, a good deal of the joy of a centennial celebration can be shattered.

Rudey 01-21-2004 11:03 PM

I'd rather no name be mentioned until the investigations were done, but hey I'm no journalist.

-Rudey

Quote:

Originally posted by vandy_violet
I knew y'all would get to this eventually when I saw the Bid Day article posted but I didn't want to be the one to start this. Interestingly, when a rape occurred at a fraternity house (not by a member, though), the newspaper would not publish the name of the fraternity or more than vague details, yet when a sorority girl gets in trouble...It's kind of that "boys will be boys" mentality.
There IS a "drunk bus" on campus-it's called SafeTrips, but it runs at night, so people don't have to walk around alone, and anyway, under normal circumstances people aren't driving drunk during the day. I had to ride it a lot freshman year when my friends lived in the "party dorm" across campus-and drunk, obnoxious people certainly used it. Besides the people who were hit, the people who will most unfairly suffer from this incident are the new Theta members. We don't know yet what the consequences will be, but they could have their Bid Party taken away, etc. New members' unofficial nights out w/ actives in many houses are being cancelled for the time being. Unfortunately, I doubt that incidents like this are as uncommon on campuses as we would like to think...


ISUKappa 01-22-2004 12:12 AM

It's unfortunate that one member's poor judgment has such a detrimental effect on an entire chapter and Greek Community.

Quote:

Originally posted by vandy_violet
Interestingly, when a rape occurred at a fraternity house (not by a member, though), the newspaper would not publish the name of the fraternity or more than vague details, yet when a sorority girl gets in trouble...It's kind of that "boys will be boys" mentality.
In the rape case, I'm not sure if the paper could publish the name of the fraternity or the member until after a formal investigation. And then it's only if the Police (and I think the victim) will release the name. (Though I could be wrong, it's been about 5 years since I took my last newspaper journalism class.) Since the accident was in the police logs, it's considered public record and the fact that the driver was in a sorority and it was their supposedly-dry bid day made it all that more newsworthy.

vandy_violet 01-22-2004 12:49 AM

True, an investigation had to be done, but even after the name could be released, the newspaper did not cover the story in the way that it has covered this one. I definitely think that this incident is wrong, and I would not drink and drive, but I think that to some degree there will always be a "boys will be boys" attitude about things that college guys that are frowned upon for the girls.

ISUKappa 01-22-2004 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vandy_violet
I definitely think that this incident is wrong, and I would not drink and drive, but I think that to some degree there will always be a "boys will be boys" attitude about things that college guys that are frowned upon for the girls.
It's the same old double standard story. Not always fair, but, unfortunately, it still happens.

exlurker 01-23-2004 03:15 PM

Update from "Hustler" 1/23/04
 
The student paper has a followup story (Jan. 23) with comments / views of Vanderbilt Greek life officials, Panhellenic, and others. The story says three sororities are being investigated, and there are expressions of concern for students' lives and health. The Thetas' "Centennial Ball" has been canceled.

Link to the article:

http://www.vanderbilthustler.com/vne.../4010a716a69cb

33girl 01-23-2004 03:41 PM

from the article
 
"required check-in for members going to off-campus parties"????

WTF??? Do they mean check in when you get home or when you get to the party - either way that is f'ed up!!

GeekyPenguin 01-23-2004 03:49 PM

Re: from the article
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
"required check-in for members going to off-campus parties"????

WTF??? Do they mean check in when you get home or when you get to the party - either way that is f'ed up!!

BWAHAHA. "Hey Suzie Sober Sister, I'm over at the party on Michigan now, it's pretty bumping and cute Econ boy is there!"

Lady Pi Phi 01-23-2004 03:53 PM

just a slight hijack.

But champagne can only be called champagne if it is from the Champagne region in France...otherwise, no matter how expensive it is, it is still sparkling wine.

okay, end of hijack.

Oh yeah, don't drink and drive.

ETA: I think Tom actually asid the same thing, but since I don't speak Earp, I though I would put it in English.

AOIIsilver 01-23-2004 08:41 PM

Just curious
 
When I picked-up a copy of the Hustler (yes, that is the REAL name of the student paper...), I wondered about Skyy Vodka...What is it? MrSilver did not know either....
Silver

DZHBrown 01-23-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Just curious
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AOIIsilver
When I picked-up a copy of the Hustler (yes, that is the REAL name of the student paper...), I wondered about Skyy Vodka...What is it? MrSilver did not know either....
Silver

Isn't it a brand of vodka?

Rudey 01-24-2004 04:08 PM

Liquor talk
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DZHBrown
Isn't it a brand of vodka?
Yes how the heck does someone not know what skyy vodka is?

-Rudey
--And champagne isn't always better than sparkling wine and a lot of times isn't more expensive either.

Tom Earp 01-24-2004 04:40 PM

"HUSTLER", suprised Larry (Porno) Flint has not sued or vice versa! :D

It seems, that the problem here is that People were drinking, DA!

But because they were members of a "Soroity", they should not be drinking and celebrating their good fortune.:eek:

If you go by all of the rules and regulations, then Drinking, smoking, and having sex is bad!:o Well, then we all sue food joints for being Larger than the Govt. lines of weight to height rules!:mad:

We are held to higher standards than the Independents as We are "Supposed" to be above everyone else when WE are just individuals who are with a Group/Organization with Greek Social Letters.

We as Greeks Have More Stringent Rules and Regulations than anyother Groups on Campus!

I have often wondered when Strong Independents bad mouth Greeks that they become a member that the Tune is Changed?:confused:

HI, I am and independent, I graduated from School. I have no leadership skills but I graduated!:(

AOIIsilver 01-25-2004 10:04 AM

Skyy Vodka
 
Quote:

Yes how the heck does someone not know what skyy vodka is?---RUDEY
Vodka is literally not my cup of tea. :) Now, ask me about the differences between Lady Grey, Earl Grey, and Greyer..I could tell you.
:)
Thanks for the info!
Silver

2blue 01-25-2004 01:40 PM

How is punishing the innocent chapters supposed to help the situation? It's just going to lead to a decline in membership, and an attitude of "If I'm doing the time, I may as well do the crime

Raise your hand if you think that no one in the innocent chapters ever drove drunk? I'd bet that 99.99% of the chapters have members who have driven drunk and not gotten caught.

What else disturbs me is this thread seems to have more posts on the TYPE of alcohol rather than the seriousness of the situation and the devatation that could easily have occurred.

Yes, the Big Dance was cancelled, but it could easily have been the BIG FUNERAL(S).

vandy_violet 01-25-2004 02:32 PM

Checking in at off-campus parties
 
The President of Panhel is one of my sisters, btw...anyway, the "checking in at off-campus parties" is not what you are all thinking. I'm assuming that they are referring to something that our chapter already does-when the house is having a party at an off-campus venue (and sororities on our campus always have parties downtown, never at the house), we have to sign in at the house before we get on the bus, and our dates do as well. Then we sign out when we get back. The Standards and Ethics and Social Chairs then know who has gone and made it back. That way if someone hasn't, they can call and check on where they are and make sure that they get back safe.

Tom Earp 01-25-2004 03:41 PM

vandy, not to sound flipint, that sounds like a Hell Of A Great Idea!:)

Just because We as Greeks Get The Most Notority with the news media does not mean that We are not really trying to get a handle on this type of situation!:)

Hell, if most know what it cost for Risk Management Insurance, maybe they would think again!:confused:

Excellent Point!:cool:

KillarneyRose 01-25-2004 03:47 PM

Where are people's priorities these days???

Miss Sherrill's parents forked out the dough to buy her a Lexus SUV but didn't see fit to get the poor girl braces to correct that terrible overbite :confused:

GeekyPenguin 01-25-2004 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Where are people's priorities these days???

Miss Sherrill's parents forked out the dough to buy her a Lexus SUV but didn't see fit to get the poor girl braces to correct that terrible overbite :confused:

Oh KillarneyRose, I love you! :p

KillarneyRose 01-26-2004 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Oh KillarneyRose, I love you! :p

Awww, I love you too, K! You're one of the few folks who can see through my bitchiness :D

exlurker 02-06-2004 09:50 PM

Update: Sorority Parties w/ Alcohol Canceled
 
The Hustler has a Feb. 6 article saying that the Vanderbilt administration has banned sorority parties with alcohol until after Spring Break (March 15).

http://www.vanderbilthustler.com/vne.../40231d04b2779

According to the article five of the 10 NPC sororities are currently being investigated "by their national headquarters, as well as by either Vanderbilt University or the Panhellenic Council."

A VU staff member is quoted on the subject of the culture of alcohol. She's against it. Members of a couple of sororities are quoted -- not happy about losing their parties, especially if they are in chapters that didn't break rules.

Apparently after Spring Break sororities without alcohol problems / infractions will be able to have parties again. Not clear about what might happen with others.
Guess there will be further developments.

TSteven 02-13-2004 02:17 PM

Re: Update: Sorority Parties w/ Alcohol Canceled
 
Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
The Hustler has a Feb. 6 article saying that the Vanderbilt administration has banned sorority parties with alcohol until after Spring Break (March 15).
What about sororities attending fraternity parties or going underground at unofficial off campus parties?


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