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Taualumna 01-09-2004 11:56 PM

Soft Drink Ban in Ontario schools
 
...but the ban is only in elementary and middle schools. High schools will continue to sell 'em.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...=1073430609824

sigmanuzk 01-10-2004 12:06 AM

At my school district here in california we never had soda at any of the elementary or jr. high schools, just at the High Schools. I never knew that this wasn't a common thing.

sugar and spice 01-10-2004 12:14 AM

Same with us -- no vending machines in elementary school, and only a juice machine in middle school.

CutiePie2000 01-10-2004 12:22 AM

It is happening in Alberta too, the soft drink ban.

honeychile 01-10-2004 12:28 AM

I'm all for this!! It's about time that the sugar factor is taken out of the schools!!

Munchkin03 01-10-2004 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by honeychile
I'm all for this!! It's about time that the sugar factor is taken out of the schools!!
Cosign!

Taualumna 01-10-2004 12:31 AM

SHould have added this: I think they should be banned in ALL SCHOOLS, not just elementary and middle schools.

AGDee 01-10-2004 12:32 AM

I agree! My kids' elementary school has "pop" (yes, in Michigan it is pop) machines. They also have a snack cart with every imaginable form of junk food known to man on it. My son finally confessed that his meal card was being depleted so quickly because he was buying things from the snack cart every day... grrrrrrrr.

Today the whole family started an "eat healthy, exercise regularly" plan and I'm sending a note to school that he is NOT to buy things from the snack cart! He's only 7, sheesh.

Dee

PhiPsiRuss 01-10-2004 12:33 AM

While they're at it, why don't they replace white bread with whole wheat? The kids will complain for a week and then get used to it.

rainbowbrightCS 01-10-2004 12:34 AM

All forms of sugar are banned in most of the High schools in PHX (or was)

Like a huge school called North has all these empty soda/ snack machines sitting there.

Its weird, I mean I understand elem/ jr high but High school?

Chris

Taualumna 01-10-2004 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by rainbowbrightCS
All forms of sugar are banned in most of the High schools in PHX (or was)

Like a huge school called North has all these empty soda/ snack machines sitting there.

Its weird, I mean I understand elem/ jr high but High school?

Chris

They can't even sell juice?

sugar and spice 01-10-2004 12:44 AM

Well . . . somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but apple juice has just as much sugar as Coke.

Personally I feel that by the time you get to high school, the kids are going to be eating and drinking what they want to eat and drink anyway, and at least if you have a soda machine the school can make a little money off of it.

Taualumna 01-10-2004 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Well . . . somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but apple juice has just as much sugar as Coke.

Personally I feel that by the time you get to high school, the kids are going to be eating and drinking what they want to eat and drink anyway, and at least if you have a soda machine the school can make a little money off of it.

Yeah, but there's always UNSWEETENED juice (that does not contain any form of artificial sweetener).

Sister Havana 01-10-2004 12:59 AM

We had pop machines in my high school but they were turned off during the school day. You could buy pop before and after school from the one in the entranceway. They did keep the pop machines in the boys' and girls' locker rooms in the gym on all day, so what we would do is sneak into the locker room just before lunch, before the final bell rang, and get a pop. (It was easier for girls to do this since the girls' locker room was right by the gym entrance, as opposed to the boys' locker room, all the way on the other side of the gym. If a gym teacher caught you in there when it was not your gym period, you got in trouble.)

RedMusiq4U 01-10-2004 01:04 AM

The ban might be a good thing b/c to much sugar at an early age can stunt growth but on the other hand who says that they won't continue to drink whatever they want at home! but teaching them nutritional values at an early age will hopefully stick w/ them as they grow older. I remember having drink machines in elementary and middle school that's want probably stunted my growth......lol :D

Kevin 01-10-2004 01:12 AM

I'd agree with this! Substitute teaching, I've learned tons about the schools... what goes on, what kids are doing lately.. most of ya'll would be shocked at some of the stuff I've heard from HS freshmen.

Anyhow.. these drinks are everywhere in schools. Many kids have 2-3 sodas per day. That's several hundred extra calories that most of their lazy butts will never burn off.

Taualumna 01-10-2004 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
I'd agree with this! Substitute teaching, I've learned tons about the schools... what goes on, what kids are doing lately.. most of ya'll would be shocked at some of the stuff I've heard from HS freshmen.

Anyhow.. these drinks are everywhere in schools. Many kids have 2-3 sodas per day. That's several hundred extra calories that most of their lazy butts will never burn off.

That's quite a bit! I hated pop (we call it pop in most of Canada) when I was a kid and didn't have my first one until I was 7 or 8. Even then, I was only allowed to drink it at birthday parties and other special occasions. For meals at home and even at restaurants, I had juice, milk or water.

bcdphie 01-10-2004 01:28 AM

The ban on pop will be throughout all Canadian elementary and jr. high schools.

Taualumna 01-10-2004 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by bcdphie
The ban on pop will be throughout all Canadian elementary and jr. high schools.
Oops...my mistake.

Lady Pi Phi 01-10-2004 03:14 AM

I didn't read the other posts, but removing soft drinks from veding machines in schools isn't going to help the obesity and health problems kids are facing.

The schools are still going to keep their contracts with the soft drink companies, but instead of soft drinks they will be replacing them with juices, fruit drinks and sports drinks. The Toronto District school board has a contract with Coca-Cola. Coke will be replacing their pop with Fruitopia, juice, iced tea and powerade. What I don't people realize is that these drinks contain just as much sugar as soft drinks. These drinks are not a healthy alternative for kids.

sugar and spice 01-10-2004 03:59 AM

Actually, considering the fact that before they had the option of diet soda and now they won't, from a standpoint of calories it'll be even worse.

The only thing it'll help with is the caffeine, which I think is more what they're aiming at.

Dionysus 01-10-2004 04:04 AM

A little sugar isn't going to hurt...too much.

I would've been pissed if they replaced my WHITE bread with wheat bread. :eek:

Taualumna 01-10-2004 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I didn't read the other posts, but removing soft drinks from veding machines in schools isn't going to help the obesity and health problems kids are facing.

The schools are still going to keep their contracts with the soft drink companies, but instead of soft drinks they will be replacing them with juices, fruit drinks and sports drinks. The Toronto District school board has a contract with Coca-Cola. Coke will be replacing their pop with Fruitopia, juice, iced tea and powerade. What I don't people realize is that these drinks contain just as much sugar as soft drinks. These drinks are not a healthy alternative for kids.

The vending machines can always only sell the bottled water that Coke makes...D-something or other

ETA: It's called Dasani (sp)

Lady Pi Phi 01-10-2004 01:45 PM

Yeah I know, but I also know they won't only sell water. Kids don't want water. It's all about making money and Coke is going to try to make as much as they can.

If they really want to help kids they should start with the crap they serve in the cafetierias.

CutiePie2000 01-10-2004 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
they will be replacing them with juices, fruit drinks and sports drinks. The Toronto District school board has a contract with Coca-Cola. Coke will be replacing their pop with Fruitopia, juice, iced tea and powerade.
Exactly, a "fruit drink" is not the same thing as fruit juice (i.e. Sunny D is not orange juice, people).
And Powerade, etc. is full of coloring, sugar and chemicals.

And while pop/soda is loaded with sugar, I "ain't" convinced that Diet Pop is that great for you either...aspartame hasn't been around long enough for us to really know if it is all that "harmless".

Thank You.
The End.

sugar and spice 01-11-2004 12:13 AM

Aspartame's been around since 1981 and over 200 studies have claimed that it is safe to use. I think there was maybe one study that proved otherwise, and that was a badly carried out research project with a focus group that was far too small. Granted there's still the off-chance that some horrible side effect could pop up in the next few years, but it's unlikely given its record so far.

Some people worry about artificial sweeteners because studies have shown that one fake sweetener (saccharine, which is the same stuff as Sweet 'n' Lo) has been linked to cancer and they just assume that all artificial sweeteners are the same. But saccharine isn't the stuff that's in diet soda, and aspartame hasn't been linked to cancer.

Granted water is still better and nobody should drink too much diet soda (too much comes out to more than one or two a day depending on how old the kid is) but any well-qualified nutritionist recommends diet soda over regular. Let's say you drink two sodas a day -- if you replace those with diet sodas, you've cut out enough cals to lose roughly 35 pounds in a year. And let's face it, at this point obesity is a much bigger issue for kids than the possible but unlikely health risks of aspartame.

Lady Pi Phi 01-11-2004 09:55 AM

There is nothing wrong with aspertame. I think caffine is a bigger issue than that.
I am a diabetic and I only drink diet pop. I love pop and if there wasn't diet pop I would go nuts.
When I was diagnosed I was told the amount of aspertame that I could have in a day was equivilent to 24 cans of diet pop.
Now I don't drink 24 cans a day (I would be bouncing off the walls because of all that caffine if I did), but I have to agree there is nothing wrong with aspertame.


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