Two Established Chapters in One City...
 

I thought it was interesting how a glo has established two chapters in one city. For example, Alpha Sigma Alpha has two established chapters in San Antonio, TX.; Delta Upsilon in UT-San Antonio and Zeta Sigma in University of The Incarnate Word (although I don't know how far apart their establishments were).
That is the only glo I can think of. Do other glo's have a "twin" chapter in the same city? Is this common, if so why would a glo do that if it has already established their presence. I wonder if this would be double work for the Alumnae chapter supporting two collegiate chapters at once.
Any response on this would be insightful:D

~TCV

Re: Two Established Chapters in One City...
 

Huh?

APO has several chapters in the same city. This is because we charter chapters to schools and only members of that school can join that chapter. Having multiple chapters in a city is not a drain on alumni associations. Its not the purpose of AA to support chapters, so its not work for them while those chapters are up and running. It is work to get them started.

Some examples:

Tallahassee, FL has chapters at both Florida State and Florida A&M.

Atlanta, GA has chapters at Univ Ga, Oglethrope, Georgia Tech, Clark-Atlantic, and Emory.

THere may be other examples, but that's what I'm familar with in my area of the country.

DPhiE has chapters at Queens College, St.John's University, and NYU which are all in NYC. Queens and St. John's are just a few minutes away from each other.

emb021-I was aiming the question to NPC glos.
~TCV

I know that my sorority, Delta Zeta, has a chapter at the University of Pittsburgh (my chapter! woo hoo!) and one at Duquesne University as well. And I just remembered one at Robert Morris College. So that is three chapters within I would guess 20 miles. We seem to be really well represented in Pennsylvania for some reason.

Also, Tri Delta and Kappa Kappa Gamma both have a chapter at the University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie-Mellon University and the two schools are within walking distance of one another.

Phi Kappa Psi
 

We have 2 chapters in Los Angeles, at UCLA (chartered in 1931) and USC (chartered in 1927), and they are supported by their respective house corporations. It creates less work for the local alumni association because twice as many local alumni are being produced.

More recently, Philadelphia has grown to have 3 Phi Psi chapters; Penn (1877.) USP (1997.) and Drexel (2002.) The chapters are beginning to work with each other, and this simply creates a more dynamic fraternity presence.

We also have 2 chapters in Chicago, DePaul (1993) and UIC (2003), as well as a chapter outside the city limits at Northwestern (1864.)

This is not unique to Phi Psi, and the reason why you would want more than one chapter in a city is because there may be more than one quality institution in one city.

You should have specified that.

Atlanta, GA has chapters at Univ Ga, Oglethrope, Georgia Tech, Clark-Atlantic, and Emory.


Boy, guess I missed the big news about UGA moving from Athens to Atlanta! ;) and it's Clark-Atlanta

My apologies for not specifying...:)

apologies accepted :)

My bad. Foolishly assumed UGA in Atlanta. C-A a typo.

And why should that make a difference? I would think that if the schools were large enough to support those chapters, fine. Plus having chapters close to one another they can do inter-chapter activities and support one another.

Theta Delta Chi
 

We have four active Charges in Boston Metropolitan Area:

Tufts University (Kappa Charge, 1856) in Medford, MA
MIT (Theta Deuteron Charge, 1890) in Cambridge, MA
Northeastern University (Delta Triton Charge, 1990) in Boston, MA
Merrimack College (Chi Triton Charge, 1999) in North Andover, MA

If we re-activate our inactive Charges, it would be cool as hell!

Harvard University (Iota Charge) in Cambridge, MA
Boston University (Lambda Charge) in Boston, MA

Re: Phi Kappa Psi
 

That would be exactly the reason. Off the top of my head, I know we have chapters at USC and UCLA as well and we have many alumnae chapters in the "greater" LA area to support everyone. I'm not going to try to think of other cities because I know I'll get something wrong, but I'm sure there are others for us.

Collegiate chapters are school specific so if there are two schools in the same city, and we think we could succeed at both, we'll try to have chapters at both.

And as was said, even though alumna chapters "should" support the local collegiate chapter, it isn't the number one reason for having an alumnae chapter in the area. Some alumnae chapters don't even have a collegiate chapter close enough for them to support.

Atlanta
 

..there are Phi Mu chapters at Georgia State University and Georgia Tech-literally down the street from one another and they do not do anything together.

There is also Alpha Xi Delta, and ZTA at both of those schools. To my knowledge, they do not associate much.

Alpha Delta Pi has a chapter at GATech and Emory-again, not sure if they associate much or not.
There are also Sigma Nu, Pi Kappa Phi and TKE chapters at Ga TEch, Southern polyTech, and Georgia State. I don't know if they do stuff together or not.

So Atlanta has many "twins"!

edited b/c I wanted my facts straight.

GEEZ:D
For the record, I am not against a double establishment of a glo in one place. If the schools are big enough and close to one another so they can support each other ...Kudos!:)

DPhiE also has chapters at Bentley and Brandeis in Waltham, Mass. as well as Northeastern which is just a few miles away in Boston.

There are several chapters and a colony in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: Drexel colony, La Salle, Philadelphia University, and University of the Sciences in Philadelphia.

ETA: There are also Miami, Florida chapters at University of Miami and Florida International University.

My ZTA chapter had a mixer with the Sammys from both UM and FIU- both are in Miami :)
I don't know the guys from Sammy, but I think they do associate with each other to a degree.

... you mean the Northeastern University in Boston, MA? Because I think the Northwestern University is in Evanston, IL! ;)

Edited because I double checked it, and I got confused as well!

Other Issues Related to This Topic
 

A few issues that come to mind, both positive and negative, include:

*A hesitation to colonize at that second institution because the first chapter is loaded with risk management issues.

*The potential for substantially greater PR through joint community service projects of the 2+ chapters.

Off hand, I know Tri Delta has the two chapters in Pittsburgh as previously listed, and we also have

Philadelphia: UPenn and Villanova
Los Angeles: UC/Los Angeles and Southern California

Re: Two Established Chapters in One City...
 

Don't forget the San Antonio Lambda Chi Alphas at UT - San Antonio and St. Mary's University. I am sure this exists in several org's.


For Alpha Phi:

Boston (4) - Boston University, MIT in Cambridge, Tufts U. in Medford, Bentley College in Waltham

Philadelphia (2) - University of Pennsylvania, St. Joseph's University

Los Angeles (3) - USC, UCLA, Loyola Marymount

San Diego (2) - USD, SDSU

Baltimore (2) - Johns Hopkins, Towson State U.

Washington DC area (2) - University of Maryland, George Washington U.


ETA: A few others I ran across

And Transylvania and University of Kentucky in Lexington.

I think that's it.

Kappa Alpha Theta has two collegiate chapters in Cambridge, Massachusetts -- MIT and Harvard.

Actually, Tridelt also has CSU Long Beach, CSU Northridge, and Pepperdine are all in less than a twenty mile radius from UCLA and the USC chapters. So Tridelta has FIVE chapters in one city with UC Irvine not too far away either! Luckily, we have several alumnae chapters within LA alone and each helps one chapter (like the West LA chapter helps UCLA).

And actually, we do have a somewhat regular interaction with one another...Pepperdine doesn't have a house (their greek system doesn't allow it) and so this past year they initiated at our house and my first year, we had a pledge dinner with USC's chapter. We are one big happy Tridelt family here in LA!

Alpha Phi has 1 chapter in Cambridge (MIT), 1 in Boston (Boston U), 1 in Waltham (Bentley College), and 1 in Medford (Tufts U). All are about 10 miles apart I'd say they are basically in the same city. Speaking as an alum, it's a lot of work to have so many so close. It's a lot of senior presents and a lot of ceremonies every May! But I love that we have a lot of new alums in the area because of them.

They all share the same subway system, so score 1 for Alpha Phi!

I don't quite understand the question...we have the 2 in SA & 2 in Chicago (and used to have 2 in Philly), but none of them are "twin" chapters. The alum chapter helps whichever collegiate chapter that might need it, or both, or neither. How much interaction the chapters have, I don't know...being in the same city doesn't necessarily mean you're next door to each other.

As russell said, the reason why you would want more than one chapter in a city is because there may be more than one quality institution in one city. Yes it's nice to spread out geographically, but I can't think of any group that would say "we can't go to Pitt because we already have a chapter at Carnegie Mellon." Both are places lots of GLOs would like to be.

Kappa's UCF and Rollins chapters are both in Orlando. We're about a 15 minute drive from each other.

We've held a joint Founder's Day celebration together, but other than that we don't hear much from each other. As our alumnae have laughingly put it, "We're about as different as two chapters can possibly be," so we really don't have that much common ground.

I went to Washington State University and although Pullman, WA is not a BIG city we had another chapter 6 miles away at the University of Idaho in Moscow, ID. Two different states, two different cities but closer than those in big cities. We I was a collegiate we did not do much socially together but we shared many advisors between the chapters.

DU has active chapters at MIT, Harvard and Tufts all in the Boston area, at Penn and Swarthmore in the Philadelphia area and Chicago and Northwestern in Chicago.

ADPi has two chapters here in San Diego, at SDSU and at USD. I'm sure that there are also many more in different areas of the country....I know that my chapter and Beta Alpha (at Indiana University) sometimes would get together (some of their chapter members came to help with our recruitment and we've gone down to IU for Little 500(?)), and our chapter went over to Northwestern when they recolonized/rechartered their chapter to help with their recruitment.

The alum association in San Diego helps out both chapters equally, and many of the members of those chapters join the San Diego alum association when they graduate from their respective universities.

Don't forget AEPi's chapters at Columbia (initiated Simon AND Garfunkle) and at NYU (mother chapter.)

Phi Sig has a few too...

Nu Chapter (1926) U of Penn in Philadelphia, PA
Xi Chapter (1926) Temple University in Philadelphia, PA
Beta Rho Chapter (1960) Drexel Univer. in Philadelphia, PA

Kappa (1924) Geogre Washington Univer. in Washington D.C.
Beta Upsilon (1962) American Univer in Washington D.C.

there are others, and some that aren't in the same city but are in a very close radius of each other. For example our region 1 chapters are all about 30mins max. from each other.

We have one alum chapter for the Philadelphia area, they support all chapters equally.

I noticed we have two alum chapters in the D.C. area, don't know if one is for one chapter and one is for the other.

I'm stuck out here in the west coast where the closest chapter to me is two hours if you go North or West and 4 hours if you go south. So I don't really know what it is like to have multiple chapters in the same city. :p

lol! You are correct. I was confused. :)

I think Paul Simon was initiated at Queens College. According to www.aepi.org, Paul Simon Queens College '63.

I am not sure if this was mentioned by any of my sisters but Alpha Phi is at :

UCLA, LOYOLA MARYMOUNT and of course the 2004 ROSE BOWL WINNING SCHOOL USC


SO were triplets in one city

Re: Phi Kappa Psi
 

Precisely. I know we have twin chapters in LA (UCLA and USC) and am assuming we have a few other ones in California as well. We also had twins in Milwaukee for several years. I'm sure we have more but I just don't know of them.

I see nothing wrong with it - I'd love to see more chapters in Milwaukee, and I think Marquette (recolonization) and MSOE would be great places to have chapters, not to mention some of the quality smaller schools in the area.