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Dionysus 12-11-2003 09:40 PM

Since some of you are so passionate about politics...
 
I have a question.

Do you only date inside your political party? Or, is this a non-issue?

Cluey 12-11-2003 09:49 PM

Short answer, yes.

I'm not down with the whole James Carville and Mary Matalin type relationship.

sigtau305 12-11-2003 09:56 PM

Non-Issue

PhiPsiRuss 12-11-2003 10:02 PM

No. Democrat women are easier to get in the sack.

PhiPsiRuss 12-11-2003 10:22 PM

Hey, I live in New York City. I can't limit myself to Republican women (Republicans make up 14% of registered voters.) Besides liberal attitudes towards sexuality are not consonant with cultural conservatives.

PhiPsiRuss 12-11-2003 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hootie
Then you know the wrong conservatives :p
I've also worked professionally in politics. Trust me, Democrat women are much more "fun."

Peaches-n-Cream 12-11-2003 10:30 PM

My bf is a Republican.

Love_Spell_6 12-11-2003 10:38 PM

NON issue
 
Its a non-issue for me....most men I date are Democrat...but we usually don't discuss politics too much....especially since they can't go toe-to-toe with me in a political discussion..

Although I don't label myself a Republican..they all do :D

kappaloo 12-11-2003 10:44 PM

Non-issue. My ex was really right-wing (i'm left-central) and it didn't affect us. We'd argue now and then... but it was all in good humour.

AchtungBaby80 12-11-2003 10:48 PM

I know it shouldn't matter, but I'm always disappointed when I hear that an otherwise perfect guy is a "damned old Republican," as my papaw would've said. ;)

imsohappythatiama 12-11-2003 10:58 PM

Always dated Republicans/conservatives, and married one. I just can't imagine sharing my life with someone whose worldview is so radically different from my own...

...not to mention what my parents would say if I brought home a Dem!! :)

Rio_Kohitsuji 12-11-2003 11:10 PM

Ehh...I prefer to date Democrats. Currently I'm stuck w/my Republican boyfriend.... :p

Political issues are a bad bad thing with us...quite possibly the only thing that will ruffle both our feathers..

The1calledTKE 12-11-2003 11:16 PM

Non issue I have dated girls from both parties. As long as you can disagree and shrug it off as just personal beliefs then there should be no problem.

Munchkin03 12-12-2003 12:19 AM

Some of my political beliefs, such as the right to choose, are so central to my being that I could not envision myself having a partner who did not share those. Mr Munch is possibly (can you believe?) even farther to the left of I. I lean more to the Socialist/Green way of thinking, while he is closer to Libertarian/maybe Anarchist.

James 12-12-2003 12:27 AM

I wouldn't care unless she had a chip on her shoulder about it.

aephi alum 12-12-2003 12:30 AM

I consider myself to be slightly left of center...

I don't think I would have been happy dating someone who was wayyy to the right. Nor would I have been particularly happy dating people who were wayyy to the left. But you'd have to be pretty far to one side or the other (think: no argument on this earth will sway my opinion) to ruffle my feathers.

Taualumna 12-12-2003 01:15 AM

As long as he's not too extreme, I'm fine.

Rudey 12-12-2003 01:22 AM

I think regardless of what party she's in I'd be right on every issue so parties don't matter.

-Rudey
--OK Thanks.

wreckingcrew 12-12-2003 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Mr Munch is possibly (can you believe?) even farther to the left of I. I lean more to the Socialist/Green way of thinking, while he is closer to Libertarian/maybe Anarchist.
Holy Crap.

Are you dating Karl Marx?

;)

Love ya Munch :D

Kitso
KS 361

Rudey 12-12-2003 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Holy Crap.

Are you dating Karl Marx?

;)

Love ya Munch :D

Kitso
KS 361

Marx is arguably the first economist and believe in laws - he also believed that capitalism must be reached in its fullest before Communism took place.

-Rudey

wreckingcrew 12-12-2003 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Marx is arguably the first economist and believe in laws - he also believed that capitalism must be reached in its fullest before Communism took place.

-Rudey

hmmm

Timothy Leary then?


Kitso
KS 361 times we can go with Ira Einhorn if you wish

bethany1982 12-12-2003 02:18 AM

I would never date anyone from the far left.

absolutuscchick 12-12-2003 02:30 AM

I guess its a non-issue UNLESS the person feels like they have to convince me that their way is right. That just DOES NOT work for me!!! I have my views and you are NOT going to change them!!


BUT...I could never be in a serious relationship with someone who didnt believe in abortion or gay rights. The other stuff I can somewhat tolerate, but dont mess with those issues!!

FAB*SpiceySpice 12-12-2003 02:45 AM

My boyfriend is a Republican and while it drives me UP THE WALL, since I am definately a Democrat, we have just agreed to disagree when it comes to politics, and we never bring it up. Since the other 99.9% of our interests and whatnot are exactly the same, we figured we'd be ok. ;)

ZTAngel 12-12-2003 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by absolutuscchick

BUT...I could never be in a serious relationship with someone who didnt believe in abortion or gay rights. The other stuff I can somewhat tolerate, but dont mess with those issues!!

I'm with you on that. I've dated guys from both parties and it has always been a non-issue for me except around election time. My boyfriend now is a Democrat so that works in my favor. :) But, no matter what political party they're in, I want to be with someone who is in favor of abortion and gay rights. Those are two issues for me that I'm very passionate about and I just couldn't be with someone who is at the complete opposite end of the spectrum than me.

TigerLilly 12-12-2003 02:28 PM

I've dated Republicans, but I'm not sure I could see myself ever being in a very serious relationship with one or marrying one. Lifeviews are too different. But then again, I'll never say never -- if I found a Republican who wasn't too, too conservative, and who accepted my leftward leanings, I think I could accept his tendencies to the right without too much trouble. After all, I've managed to live with my die-hard Republican parents for the past 20 years!

honeychile 12-15-2003 12:29 AM

It would be more on the issues as opposed to the party. Mr. honeychile is a Democrat, but he also lives in the city of Chicago. Our political ideals are the same, though.

I actually moved to where I live because there was a higher Republican registration compared to where I used to live!

Kevin 12-15-2003 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Some of my political beliefs, such as the right to choose, are so central to my being that I could not envision myself having a partner who did not share those. Mr Munch is possibly (can you believe?) even farther to the left of I. I lean more to the Socialist/Green way of thinking, while he is closer to Libertarian/maybe Anarchist.
Libertarian ain't left...

It's in its own region :D

I'd say it's closer to right-wing.. ya know.. taking personal responsibility for your actions?:D

Back on subject... non-issue.

Munchkin03 12-15-2003 12:46 AM

According to him, there are left-leaning Libertarians, and there are right-leaning ones. :)

PhiPsiRuss 12-15-2003 01:05 AM

Left vs. Right is a False Dichotomy
 
You can check out the Libertarian Party at http://www.LP.org/

or check out this on line quiz

http://www.lp.org/images/wspq2-s.gif


I scored as follows:
Your Personal Self-Government Score is 80%
Your Economic Self-Government Score is 70%
I'm in the Libertarian quadrant, slightly towards the "Left Liberal" side.

GeekyPenguin 12-15-2003 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cluey
Short answer, yes.

I'm not down with the whole James Carville and Mary Matalin type relationship.

Ditto. We actually discussed this in my LJ a little.

And Russel, last year a bunch of us student gov't people took that quiz and my then-boyfriend was the only person more leftist than me! :p

absolutuscchick 12-15-2003 02:22 AM

Re: Left vs. Right is a False Dichotomy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
You can check out the Libertarian Party at http://www.LP.org/

or check out this on line quiz

http://www.lp.org/images/wspq2-s.gif


I scored as follows:
Your Personal Self-Government Score is 80%
Your Economic Self-Government Score is 70%
I'm in the Libertarian quadrant, slightly towards the "Left Liberal" side.

I think I've taken this quiz before....anyhow this is how I scored!!

Your Personal Self-Government Score is 90%.
Your Economic Self-Government Score is 20%.
I'm a Left-Liberal!!!
Left-Liberals prefer self-government in personal matters and central decision-making on economics. They want government to serve the disadvantaged in the name of fairness. Leftists tolerate social diversity, but work for economic equality.

PhiPsiRuss 12-15-2003 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Ditto. We actually discussed this in my LJ a little.

And Russell, last year a bunch of us student gov't people took that quiz and my then-boyfriend was the only person more leftist than me!

That is so very, very sad.:rolleyes:

AlphaGamDiva 12-15-2003 02:53 PM

it's always nice when the boy is a republican like myself, but i also like to get in lil arguments to keep things interesting.....which is probably why my longest relaionships have always been with democrats. ;) most of my friends are dems, too....i'm weird, what can ya say?

mr. agdiva is a democrat....but i think really he's a repub in hiding.......i think i can turn him to the right way. :D

GeekyPenguin 12-15-2003 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
That is so very, very sad.:rolleyes:
What, that I'm not ashamed to admit I'm liberal? Go ahead, criticize me for caring.

Or is it that I'll only date men I agree with politically? Considering my chosen career path, it's only a logical decision.

sugar and spice 12-15-2003 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I've also worked professionally in politics. Trust me, Democrat women are much more "fun."
I knew it! ;)

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
Some of my political beliefs, such as the right to choose, are so central to my being that I could not envision myself having a partner who did not share those.
Me too. I could date someone who had conservative opinions on some issues, but others are just not arguable. I could date someone who believed in the death penalty, for example, but I could not date anyone who doesn't agree with the right to choose.

I don't think I could ever date anyone who was more right than moderate. Given the fact that I've have a decent number of political discussions (and disagreements) with boyfriends who are also on the left, I think dating a conservative would be just a little too much!

PhiPsiRuss 12-15-2003 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
What, that I'm not ashamed to admit I'm liberal? Go ahead, criticize me for caring.

Or is it that I'll only date men I agree with politically? Considering my chosen career path, it's only a logical decision.

I was poking fun at you for holding political beliefs different from my own. I'm sorry if you interpreted that as an attack.

As far as being liberal goes, and this is not directed at you, I resent the way that the word "liberal" has been distorted in the US over the last several decades. I am a liberal, in the classical 19th Century definition of the word. That means that I am not left wing. It does mean that I believe in liberalized markets, not only for goods and services, but also for the free exchange of ideas.

In much of Europe, being a "liberal" means that your political beliefs are similar to moderate libertarianism in the US. In Australia, the Liberal Party is the leading right wing party.

A great irony of the distortion of the word "liberal" in the US is that a liberal arts education requires a strict adherance to a grammar, and proper word definitions, so that discourse does not devolve into a "Tower of Babel" like environment.

ETA Australian Liberal Party beliefs

GeekyPenguin 12-15-2003 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I was poking fun at you for holding political beliefs different from my own. I'm sorry if you interpreted that as an attack.

As far as being liberal goes, and this is not directed at you, I resent the way that the word "liberal" has been distorted in the US over the last several decades. I am a liberal, in the classical 19th Century definition of the word. That means that I am not left wing. It does mean that I believe in liberalized markets, not only for goods and services, but also for the free exchange of ideas.

In much of Europe, being a "liberal" means that your political beliefs are similar to moderate libertarianism in the US. In Australia, the Liberal Party is the leading right wing party.

A great irony of the distortion of the word "liberal" in the US is that a liberal arts education requires a strict adherance to a grammar, and proper word definitions, so that discourse does not devolve into a "Tower of Babel" like environment.

ETA Australian Liberal Party beliefs

I'm a liberal in the American sense - I'm a bleeding-heart, pro-choice, anti-death penalty hippie dippie Babs Fembot. Most of the "names" Kitso has called me are true. I'm not ashamed of it, and I don't think I could EVER date anybody who was "pro-life." I have a good friend who's a very moderate Republican, and I could probably handle dating him if I found him sexually attractive, which I don't. I'm a very political animal and there is no way I could handle dating somebody who didn't share the same beliefs I did on my core issues.

ThetaPrincess24 12-15-2003 06:01 PM

Re: Since some of you are so passionate about politics...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
I have a question.

Do you only date inside your political party? Or, is this a non-issue?


i prefer strongly to date republicans/conservatives.........i've gone the more liberal route before........and it just leads to arguments...........not lil spats, but big arguments....... So I dont think it's in my best interests to go another route there.......

PhiPsiRuss 12-15-2003 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
pro-choice
That irks me too. I am truly pro-choice. About everything. I support a woman's right to an abortion (all the way through the 75th trimester ;)), I support school choice, I support the legalization of drugs and prostitution.

In my opinion, if you support any laws designed to protect a person from himself, then you are not pro-choice. The whole "pro-choice" onley refers to women's reproductive rights is intellectually dishonest, and little more than marketing.


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