Non-Black stylist and our hair
 

Hi ladies. Question......

Have you ever gone to a white stylist before? What services did you get (i.e. relaxer, trim, braids, etc.) and what was your experience? Would you go back?

I am contemplating this, but wanted to see what other ladies' experiences were.

Insight please :D

NO stylist knows what to do with my hair. :rolleyes: :mad: :(

I think I went to a white stylist when I was a little kid. I don't remember much what happened.

If I just need a trim and nothing else, I sometimes go to the Hair Cuttery up the street from my house. Most of the time they have a couple of black stylists in there, but anyone can trim split ends. I get good service for a cheap price. I don't think I would go to a non-black stylist for anything major like a cut or a relaxer though.

Nope. At the most I go to the Dominican ladies- but a lot of them are racially black anyway so it's not a stretch.

I don't think I would trust a white stylist with my hair to be honest.

Nope. That is like uh uh... I remember I got my hair triimmed at a bueaty college by a black girl and the white girl was pressing hair! She let the comb get so hot it pulled the hair right out this women's hair! :eek:

Yup, I have honestly found a few white stylists that can layer the hayle outta my hair. THAT's IT though, I don't let them do anything but the cut.

That's true because I see some white chicks with BANGING layers. I might go and get some myself.

I wouldn't do it. When I was young this woman was supposed to give me a J-curl...yeah I know...and she ended up skipping a few steps and giving me a perm made for white people. My hair fell out and I had braids in for a year. I'll never go to a non-Black stylist again. I'm too scared to give a non-Black stylist a second chance, even if it is a completely different person.

Yes. And it's the main reason I wear my hair natural today. :D

Seriously though, I knew a white guy who used to work at the salon where I got my hair done back home. He wasn't my stylist, but all of his clients had FIERCE hair.

I went to a white salon once and they did a pretty good job. Of course, they didn't call it a doobie wrap, but that's what they did. They gave me the best trim I've ever gotten, though.

My mom has a short natural for years, and she would go to Supercuts in a pinch sometimes... it wasn't as good as the barbershop, but they did alright.

...hopefully, the next time I go to a salon will be the last time for a while... I'm starting my locs!!! :D

What she said! I had a few non black stylists mess up my hair. However, I had a great job done by one white stylist...she had worked on "our hair"--her kids are biracial (black/white)

But I feel ya! I only want a sistah doing my hair...had too many bad experiences!

Yes, I had a white stylist before and she was the BOMB. The only reason I quit going was due me going to college. Then when I went to call her up she had moved. My best friend introduced me to her and she does it all. Homegirl could lay it out!!! I saw her do everything from weaves, to relaxers, to perms, to color, to braiding. It was not until my current stylist (black) that I became satisfied with someone doing my hair. She was always booked and when I would go to see her, you HAD to make your next appointment or miss out. She had standing appointments on Wednesdays so I could never, ever, ever, see her on Wednesdays because of this. She could tell you some stories about black clients coming in who where refered to her by another client and find out she was white. These stories would have you falling out of your chair!!!

What I liked about my white stylist and my current one is that they made time to see all their customers and one is not on top of the other. I have gotten up and just left beauty shop because of this and never returned. My best friend told me that she went to get her hair done on Friday. She was in the shop at 10:00 (her appointment) but he did not start on her hair until 12:00. Don't play with my time like that.

My hairstylist is (Asian) Indian (born and raised in Trinidad though) and I absolutely love how she does my hair. She has "growing" hands as they say.

I am picky though at who I let do my hair because of a bad experience. Some stylists, whether they are white, black, etc...get scissor happy when it comes to trimming the ends.

Other than that, if she's in the mood, I'll ask my mom ;)

Here's the scoop
 

I used to go to a black stylist, but just I just got fed up with the WAITING, and the whole ghetto-ness of it (overbooking, on the phone while applying a relaxer, eating while trying to style my hair, frying my hair with those Marcels, etc.)

There is a salon here in town with a good rep (national stylist) and a co-worker of mine who goes there was telling about a stylist (white girl) that has quite a few black women as clients.

I may give her a call for a consultation to see what's up with her.

Re: Here's the scoop
 

:eek:

I would've left at that moment. That is just gross.

Me too and you can't beat a $16 doobie (CT4 remember that word:p ?)

I did have a white stylist for a minute. There was a Cosmetics Plus by the World Trade Center that had a hair salon. A white dude did my hair a few times. My only complaint was he was a bit scissor happy when I asked for a trim.

Well my sis and her mom have been going to the same white hair salon since her first relaxer at like 6 or 7. I think he does an ok job but honestly I wish she would go somewhere else like my salon where it's half the price and looks 100 times better. Now that my hair is relaxed again I've been going to the Dominicans anf they hook the isht out of my hair. When she gets back from the salon her hair is way too curly and her ends look way too thin and need to be cut. But I think/know she has a complex with cutting her hair since it's kinda long and she is Miss AKA but the ends are too too thin it looks really silly to me. I mean it doesnt make sense to have long hair if only 3 strands are long you know? Also it doesnt have the jermach (bounce) like mine because he uses a lot of curling irons but he doesnt comb it out so it looks curly and a bit stiff when it really needs to be smoother so if she wanted to comb it out it would still look the same or if she got a gush of wind she could shake her a head a few times and it would come back..... like mine lol.

Now mom is a different story. Her hair is thinning and has been for a while. The last time she went he told her he wouldnt be perming the top anymore and I said to my self "umm he should have stopped years ago." If you blow dry the roots straight enuff you dont have to use perm. and when she gets back from the salon it's a hot mess but she likes it. [like flipped ends here a curl there it's just crazy] I keep telling her to come with me to mine just once she'd like it so much better. But she's attached to him and she likes to spend more money on a style that's not worth it. I honestly believe her hair looks better after she;s put rollers in it one night and then combs it out.

I dont understand how people can be in denial for soo long I mean everytime I get my hair done she;s like "oh my god it looks soo good" but she still wont come. When my sis cam back from school for fall break and saw my hair (I had just relaxed it) she was like wow but she still doesnt want to come. I told her why dont you cut a little bit off so it looks thicker but no. Watch by the summer my hair will be as long as hers but thicker and healthier.

Sorry but the long and the short of my story is if you go to a white salon make sure you are not tricking yourself into thinking it looks good and if you if you see someone's hair that looks good or better than yours and it's cheaper umm dont waste you money any more.

When I crossed I had a very nice short cut. Looking at the Look At Me thread many Sorors are short and lovely.

Just felt like pointing out that hair doesn't really have much to do with AKA.

Re: Re: Here's the scoop
 

LOL, girrrrrl, who are you telling. :mad: :o

Right now, I am doing my own hair, but I wouldn't mind having someone else fool with it for a change.

When I patronized beauty schools
 

In Las Vegas during the 1990s, I had non-AA students do my hair. I'm a very engaged client, so I was watching them like a hawk. And my relaxers turned out well.

Right now, my biological sister does my hair except when I am up here in "the O.C." :rolleyes: When that happens, I go to Long Beach to a beauty school where nearly all the students are of color. I've had Chicanas do my hair, and they've done a good job.

And as an aside, right now much of my sister's clientele is non-AA. Now, she's starting to get more because of soror referrals.
;)

I have never gone to a non-black hair stylist before. I have always kind of been scared that they would not know how to get my hair straight or how to detangle it and other little things like that.

The stylist I go to now co-owns the salon with a hispanic woman. If I was to go to a non-AA stylist, she would be the only one. I have seen her to relaxers and have girls' hair looking good. She can also hook up the razor cut. I think I might let her give me a cute little cut and then let my stylist do my hair.

i went to a white female stylist for years before she went and made some...changes in her life:rolleyes: i liked her and half of her clientele was Black (many were sorors). when i lived in Dallas, i went to a white male stylist and he was great. the Latina he worked w/could also style some hair. if i moved back i'd look him up.
the most problems i've ever had were from Blacks. my thing race isn't the issue when it comes to doing my hair but technique is;)

Never have and never will.

I went to a white stylist once for a wash, cut, and style (I had a fresh relaxer already). She did the bomb cut, but her tools weren't meant for our hair, so after the wash and cut things went a little south. :rolleyes:

I went home, re-blow dried with my power-blower, flat-ironed my whole head, and then bumped the ends. That's when I found out the cut was fabulous. I didn't go back because I wanted a short haircut (this is back when the Halle Berry style was all the rage) and I was referred to a Black woman who gave me the best short-cut (and continued to give me the best until I moved) I've ever had in my life. So much for the white girl! :D

You know, it's funny because I have been to a white stylist and she jacked me the hayle up! :rolleyes: However, I've been to SEVERAL sistahs who made me look like a dayum clown. I think it all boils down to experience, techinique and listening to what the heck I say! If I tell the stylist I want a trim, I'm not asking for a cut. I can't stand scissor happy stylists! My hair tends to grow very fast and it's thick. I think I have had some stylists who purposely cut off more than I asked them to. Heffas... :mad:

I just want someone who can do what I ask them to do, man! I don't ask for magic, but I know what I want. It's so hard to find a good stylist who is professional in Cleveland. Seems like most of the folks specialize in quick weaves and that AIN'T FO' ME! :p

I guess my take on it is if you can do my type of hair and do it well, we're cool whatever your race. It then becomes an issue of trust. Who wants to be a guinea pig? :eek: Coming out the salon in tears....

When I find my way to New York (if I can stop shopping for a few months), I plan to try a Dominican salon. I've heard tons about them, and we're rather Dominican-salon-deficient out here in Kollyfornia.

Yeah, I agree with that one. They can do some cute cuts, but let one of them even attmept t puck up a pressing comb and give you a good, hard press, ,for ex., and you'll be asking for too much, IMHO...

Sometimes it's best to stay within our "own" ;)

Just co-signing along with everyone else. I never went, but a good friend of mine always went to great clips or the hair cuttery after a relaxer and the white people over there always did an awesome job with layers. IF I ever go back to a permie, I'd have one of them give me some layers.

wedding nightmare
 

I was maid of honnor [ i hate that term ] in a friend's wedding this past summer. she's white and basically, I'm the only black person she knows well [and the only one in the wedding party]. She was trying to be nice by setting up appointments for all of the bridesmaids, and her mom and his mom and herself to get our hair done at the same salon on the day of the wedding. I use the term salon loosely! Itwas this little place run by some white women who had BAD hair themselves - frizzy, overblowdried and bad color jobs.

Well, the girls who had long [past their shoulders] relatively straight hair got up-dos and looked ok. The mom of the groom had short hair and got this helmet head thing that looked BAD. There was an asian girl w/ short curly hair, and it didn't look like they did anything.

With me, I wear my hair naturally curly, about chin length. the woman doing my hair had no ideas on what to do w/ shorter and/or curly hair. Thankfully, I had thought ahead and brought some of my own products with me. I had to suggest to her that she spritz my curls w/ water to eliminate frizz and define the curls.

She tried to do twists, and then she pinned the back of it.

Thankfully the bride wasn't around to see it. I HATED IT, IT LOOKED TERRIBLE. The other women who saw it agreed. The twists were too loose, and the back was just a mess. I ended up taking the back down and fixing it b4 the bride saw it. One of my sands will do hair on the side for her friends, and I should have had her on standby, b/c I know I would have looked better.

I found out later the bride had paid $70 per person for our hairdos!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

NONE of them were that cute. The bride's looked ok b/c it was hidden by a veil.

Great story...
 

Too bad the bride went to so much expense to do something nice and it turned out badly. Well, at least you know how to do your own hair so that it looks good. :p

I was able to find a happy medium between my everyday look and something "special" for the wedding. To spare her feelings I never told her that I had altered it. But, I still didn't want to take a lot of closeup pics at the wedding. :)

I have also gone to a white salon and had my hair layered and styled and I absolutely loved it! And yes I would go back. I don't see myself letting a white stylist do any type of chemical treatments on my hair simply because I believe that their techniques are different than what my hair is accustomed to. As for styling, I'm cool with that. Since I don't like a lot of products on my hair, all I would need are some layers and a flat iron for that wind blown look that they achieve so well ;).

**Shout Out to the ladies at Aveda Salon in Macon, GA**

The Verdict.......
 

Well, after talking with the stylist, I have decided to give her a try. She is white and has quite a few black women as clients. She told me that she has been trained to work on "our hair" and can use certain types of products specifically for our hair, if I wanted her too.

So, I have scheduled a lunch appointment :eek: . She said that I will be in and out in about an hour and a half - which before, was totally NOT possible (due to triple booking :mad: )

I'm just going for a wash and style, so I will let y'all know how it turns out. :)

How did it go?
 

I've heard from different friends that many white stylists give better cuts (don't know about trims).
I can't seem to find a stylist who can cut, trim, or relax my hair! It wasn't until I told my newest person NOT to try and make my hair bone straight that most of it stopped falling out. I'm still having problems with my edges and the nape.

What I need is a gay man! So many friends say that they do the best job. The best result I ever had was with a gay man. Unfortunately, I was only visiting the area to see my cousin that time.

I'm tempted to take classes to learn how to do this myself. "If you want something done right, do it yourself."

Re: How did it go?
 

I have gotten excellent trims from white stylist because when I say trim that is what was done and I have gotten the best hair cut that I ever received from a white stylist at an Aveda salon

but you are right gay men are on point too lol

Re: How did it go?
 

Now this is the truth. When I had a relaxer, I always did my relaxer myself. The only thing I went to the salon for was to get my hair cut (Carla, remember Rocinda? That girl could shonuff cut some hurh!!) or colored. But relaxers and styles, I had that down. Some things are just better done yourself. I used to wish I knew how to cut hair. Now I just wish I knew how to cornrow and flat-twist. Y'all wouldn't be able to tell me JACK, ya heard??

I'm glad I'm not the only one on the gay men trip! Back when I had relaxed hair, I would only trust it to gay male stylists. Now that I'm natural, there are few gay brothers who work with natural styles, so most of my stylists are women these days.

Re: How did it go?
 

YES LAWD!!!!!! Some of the best stylists I know are gay men!

Although I've had terrible experiences with black stylists I've always said that I would never go to a white stylists unless I've seen their work (which I require of black stylists as well-I had to after almost loosing all my hair from an over processed curl).

But now I have shoulder length locks and not too many black stylists deal with locks, so I know there's not too many non-black. I wouldn't let them touch my locks anyways, but then again I don't let too many black lockticians touch my hair.