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CrimsonTide4 12-04-2003 05:36 PM

Racist Hate Mail Reportedly Sent to NFL Players
 
Racist Hate Mail Reportedly Sent to NFL Players
Thu Dec 4,10:48 AM ET Add Sports - Reuters to My Yahoo!



MIAMI (Reuters) - A dozen black NFL players have been sent threatening hate mail telling them African-Americans should not be allowed to play professional football and earn stacks of money, a newspaper reported on Thursday.



Florida's Palm Beach Post said the NFL's security department sent out a memo last week warning players, and stating that the letters all appeared to come from the same person and were postmarked in Erie, Pennsylvania, or Cleveland and Youngstown, Ohio.


"We do not have any suspects," special agent Robert Hawk of the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Cleveland office told the newspaper, saying the bureau was investigating the letters and would prosecute whoever was sending them.


"These letters contained veiled threats. There were overtures of violence," Hawk added.


No one was immediately available for comment at the FBI (news - web sites) office in Cleveland, nor at National Football League headquarters in New York. A spokeswoman for the FBI office in Miami told Reuters she had no information on the case.


The Palm Beach Post said one of the targets of the hate mail was an unidentified player with the Miami Dolphins (news).


"It was a threatening letter," Dolphins team security investigator Stu Weinstein told the paper.


"It said: 'African-Americans shouldn't be allowed to play professional sports and shouldn't be allowed to make the money that football players make and entertainers make.' Mostly it was about the dangers of racial mixing in our society."


The NFL memo said the sender was usually identified as "All Whites" or "Angry white women."

Eclipse 12-04-2003 06:09 PM

Re: Racist Hate Mail Reportedly Sent to NFL Players
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

"It said: 'African-Americans shouldn't be allowed to play professional sports and shouldn't be allowed to make the money that football players make and entertainers make.' Mostly it was about the dangers of racial mixing in our society."

Errr....just a guess, but something tells me the letter did not say African-Americans...:rolleyes: le sigh

Honeykiss1974 12-04-2003 06:15 PM

Re: Re: Racist Hate Mail Reportedly Sent to NFL Players
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Eclipse
Errr....just a guess, but something tells me the letter did not say African-Americans...:rolleyes: le sigh
Maybe it was from a Politically Correct racist? :rolleyes: :confused:

*SMH*

Dionysus 12-04-2003 06:19 PM

Re: Re: Re: Racist Hate Mail Reportedly Sent to NFL Players
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Maybe it was from a Politically Correct racist? :rolleyes: :confused:

*SMH*

CTFU!!! :D

Steeltrap 12-04-2003 06:20 PM

Re: Re: Racist Hate Mail Reportedly Sent to NFL Players
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Eclipse
Errr....just a guess, but something tells me the letter did not say African-Americans...:rolleyes: le sigh

For the most part, wire services don't use racially derogatory epithets. I don't have my AP stylebook in front of me, but you generally aren't supposed to use epithets.

Jill1228 12-04-2003 08:53 PM

Hmmmm I hope they find the coward that did this.

Also the coward needs to lay off the haterade...just jealous cause the brotha is making more cash than him! :rolleyes:

TonyB06 12-05-2003 11:27 AM

Cowards do what cowards do...throw a rock and hide they hand.

I'd like to see ole boy man up and deliver his letter personally to, say Ray Lewis of the Ravens. I gotta a feeling Ray would smooth this "disagreement" out with the guy real quickly. :mad:

...but of course Ray is going to be busy this weekend getting his butt kicked by them Big Bad Cincinnati Bengals. :cool:

Steeltrap 12-05-2003 01:24 PM

Possible targets
 
Yesterday, on the ESPN boards for the Miami Dolphins, people were wondering if Ricky Williams and/or Jason Taylor were the targets of the attacks. I'm going to check the
Miami Herald site today to find out if they have identified any players.

Eclipse 12-05-2003 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06

...but of course Ray is going to be busy this weekend getting his butt kicked by them Big Bad Cincinnati Bengals. :cool:

/hijack

You sound like my hubby...Cinci wins 2 or 3 games in a row and he thinks they are going to the Super Bowl :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Must be something in the water off the Ohio River. LOL

BTW...he grew up in Kennedy Heights

Steeltrap 12-05-2003 02:00 PM

It's Jason Taylor
 
http://www.jasontaylor99.com/images/...ery/off08b.jpg

Friday, December 5, 2003
Taylor reportedly received letter

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ESPN.com news services

Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor received one of about 30 threatening letters sent to prominent, successful blacks over the last two years, the Miami Herald reported on Friday.

The letters, which include threats of castration and death, urge the men to "stop establishing relations with white females," according to special agent Robert Hawk of the Cleveland office of the FBI, which is investigating.

Taylor's wife, Katina, the sister of Taylor's teammate Zach Thomas, is white, as is Taylor's mother. Taylor's father is black.

Two NFL sources saw the letter sent to Taylor in late September and told the newspaper Thursday that Taylor is the only Dolphins player to receive one, according to the Herald.

"I have no comment on it," Taylor told the newspaper. "I have nothing to say about it whatsoever. It has nothing to do with being a player. It's society."

Contacted in Pittsburgh Thursday by the Palm Beach Post, Taylor's mother, Georgia, said, "There are going to be people that have a problem with our family structures. I'm not surprised by anything in today's society."

Taylor's agent, Gary Wichard, told the Post that he wasn't aware of his client getting such a letter. "I spoke to Jason today and we didn't discuss any letters," Wichard told the Florida newspaper Thursday. "I don't know about hate mail. I do know Jason gets a lot of love mail."

Stu Weinstein, the Dolphins' security investigator, would not confirm it was Taylor who received the letter, but did tell the newspaper that the player was alarmed.

During 19 years with the Dolphins, Weinstein says he has witnessed everything from "death threats to extortion to women writing letters to claim that players have fathered children with them," he told the Post. But he told the Herald that these letters have been his greatest concern since the heightened security surrounding pro football following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

An NFL source told the Herald that Taylor has not asked for additional security from the NFL or the team. Hawk said Thursday that the FBI has not connected the letters with any acts of "violence or any connection to violent activity."

"When you get something like that you have got to take it seriously," Dolphins President Eddie Jones told the Herald. "Obviously, it's something we're concerned about."

Running back Ricky Williams said he did not receive a letter but he isn't surprised by such threats.

"Most of us don't take it that seriously," Williams told reporters. "It's something normal. Things like that have been around forever."

According to a memo distributed to NFL players last week by the league's security department, and obtained by the Post on Wednesday, every piece of the hate mail comes from the same person, and postmarks show the correspondence was sent from Erie, Pa., Cleveland and Youngstown, Ohio.

The letters have been directed to prominent blacks throughout the United States, including leading businessmen, politicians and entertainers in addition to NFL players, an FBI source told ESPN. Players from as many as six NFL teams have received the three-to-four-paragraph letters.

In a letter obtained Thursday from the FBI by ESPN, the writer decried interracial relationships between black men and white women, but did allow for those involving Arab or Hispanic men. "At least their skin color is closer to whites," the letter said. "It is RACISM when black men don't want their own black women."

"We will attack the black man with any white girl to castrate and kill him," the letter said. "We will use detectives and police to find you."

It was signed, "Angry Caucasian women."

In Columbus, Ohio, a police report said the mother of suspended Ohio State tailback Maurice Clarett received a racially charged death threat addressed to her son.

Michelle Clarett received the letter, which had no return address, at her home on Oct. 2. The typed message was from "OSU cheerleaders" and said that "black men should stay away from white women." It included other racial remarks and ended with a message that the writer will "kill and bomb the place."

"We do not have any suspects," Hawk told the Palm Beach newspaper. "But we are currently conducting lab analysis to find the source. If we find this person we will refer him for prosecution, because obviously what has been done is illegal."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

TonyB06 12-05-2003 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eclipse
/hijack

You sound like my hubby...Cinci wins 2 or 3 games in a row and he thinks they are going to the Super Bowl :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Must be something in the water off the Ohio River. LOL

BTW...he grew up in Kennedy Heights

*return hijack*
...uhm, Eclipse,

quit hatin' on your hubby:p and actually it's 6 wins out of 7 making us the hottest team in the NFL. After the P.I.M.P. (also known as Marvin Lewis) and the squad handle Baltimore, you really gon have to listen to your hubby run it down.

...tell Kennedy Heights that College Hill says whaz up and I hope his old Bengals gear ain't as "tight" as mine; but one trip to the mall for that 2X will make that all right, too. :cool:
*end of hijack*

WenD08 12-05-2003 05:49 PM

...but of course Ray is going to be busy this weekend getting his butt kicked by them Big Bad Cincinnati Bengals.

TonyB06,

from your lips to God's ears...;)
Eclipse, this Bengals' fan is realistic, i think they'll be watchin' the Super Bowl on the telly like me. but i may be wrong, i predicted they'd go 8-8 and look at 'em now. YAY BENGALS! GO MARVIN!:D

now back to the subject at hand: am i the only one that thinks that the sender may be Black? the fact that this person referred to white females as "white girls" and allowed for Blacks to date other people of color makes me think that it's one of our own causing problems.
one of us has done something like this before so it wouldn't surprise me:rolleyes:

straightBOS 12-05-2003 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WenD08

now back to the subject at hand: am i the only one that thinks that the sender may be Black? the fact that this person referred to white females as "white girls" and allowed for Blacks to date other people of color makes me think that it's one of our own causing problems.
one of us has done something like this before so it wouldn't surprise me:rolleyes:

agreed.

although the person could have been female, I believe it was signed as such to try and throw off authorities. The excerpts from the letters sound more masculine to me.

sounds like a bitter guy who lost his girl to a black football player.

1savvydiva 12-05-2003 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06
...but of course Ray is going to be busy this weekend getting his butt kicked by them Big Bad Cincinnati Bengals. :cool:
What you talking 'bout Willis? :mad:
Don't be talking about Babbyfavah#3 :mad: Me and Rayleisha is going to be in front of the television cheering our RayRay to victory! :p

TonyB06 12-06-2003 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1savvydiva
What you talking 'bout Willis? :mad:
Don't be talking about Babbyfavah#3 :mad: Me and Rayleisha is going to be in front of the television cheering our RayRay to victory! :p

1SD,
I'm tryin' to overlook this post, on account of those hazel eyes of yours :p but if you keep talkin' this foolishness you can get right in the cryin' line with Ray-Ray after this hellacious beat down we put on yall come Sunday afternoon.

:eek: yeah, I'm talkin' all out the side of my neck on this...

Eclipse 12-06-2003 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06
After the P.I.M.P. (also known as Marvin Lewis) and the squad handle Baltimore, you really gon have to listen to your hubby run it down.

I hope his old Bengals gear ain't as "tight" as mine; but one trip to the mall for that 2X will make that all right, too. :cool:
*end of hijack*

He went out and spent a grip on Ohio State stuff after the championship last year, so I'm sure all of the Cinci stuff will be coming soon. He even pulled out his VHS collection from the Icky Woods days the other day!:rolleyes:

Marv Lewis is the ONLY reason I am halfway cheering for the Bengals this year. 'Bout time someone gave the bruva a chance. I just hope he doesn't go the way of Ty Willingham this year.
Back to the orginal topic....wonder if Marv got a letter? I heard is wife was white. Is that true?

TonyB06 12-06-2003 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eclipse
He went out and spent a grip on Ohio State stuff after the championship last year, so I'm sure all of the Cinci stuff will be coming soon. He even pulled out his VHS collection from the Icky Woods days the other day!:rolleyes:

Marv Lewis is the ONLY reason I am halfway cheering for the Bengals this year. 'Bout time someone gave the bruva a chance. I just hope he doesn't go the way of Ty Willingham this year.
Back to the orginal topic....wonder if Marv got a letter? I heard is wife was white. Is that true?

No, Marv's wife is black, as are his two children.

Oh, yeah, I forgot Ohio is still national champion in college football too, ...WE RULE!!

Mr. Eclipse has a Bengals VHS collection too? I may need to holla at bruh man, we may be able to do some exchangin... (I live up here in the land of mis-fit toys, otherwise known as Cleveland Clowns land.)

preparing for incoming fire from CT4 and Ideal08, but I'm ready for em :p

CrimsonTide4 12-06-2003 12:34 PM

Negro you live in AKRON!!! You have the AKRON ZIIIIIIPS, lol. Trying to clown on the Browns, go right ahead. :D

TonyB06 12-06-2003 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Trying to clown on the Browns, go right ahead. :D
hmmmm, let's see. Cleveland is 4-8, they might have trouble beating Ohio State, and yall's coach is a grown man named "Butch"....clowning these boys ain't exactly the hardest thing in the world to do. But CT4, if you slow your roll, I might be persuaded to find a way to get you some Bengals playoff tickets. :p

...but you tryin' my patience. :D

starang21 12-06-2003 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Negro you live in AKRON!!! You have the AKRON ZIIIIIIPS, lol. Trying to clown on the Browns, go right ahead. :D
aight, while y'all talking about that...what the hell is a zip?

1savvydiva 12-06-2003 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06
1SD,
I'm tryin' to overlook this post, on account of those hazel eyes of yours :p but if you keep talkin' this foolishness you can get right in the cryin' line with Ray-Ray after this hellacious beat down we put on yall come Sunday afternoon.

:eek: yeah, I'm talkin' all out the side of my neck on this...

Dang Tony...I thought we wuz cool, it's alright...I won't address you until AFTER the game! :mad:


:p

CrimsonTide4 12-06-2003 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06
hmmmm, let's see. Cleveland is 4-8, they might have trouble beating Ohio State, and yall's coach is a grown man named "Butch"....clowning these boys ain't exactly the hardest thing in the world to do. But CT4, if you slow your roll, I might be persuaded to find a way to get you some Bengals playoff tickets. :p

...but you tryin' my patience. :D

And these playoff tickets would be in NASTY NATI . . . umm no thanks!! But if you could see your way to getting me some SAINTS tickets, I'd be much obliged.

@ Starang, hell if I know. Maybe short for ZIPPERS. :p

TonyB06 12-06-2003 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1savvydiva
Dang Tony...I thought we wuz cool, it's alright...I won't address you until AFTER the game! :mad:


:p

1SD,
You know I'm down wit you, but this is FOOTBALL. And you can find me after the game, I'll be helping my team get they foot out of Ray's a$$.... :p

TonyB06 12-06-2003 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
And these playoff tickets would be in NASTY NATI . . . umm no thanks!! But if you could see your way to getting me some SAINTS tickets, I'd be much obliged.
C'mon, CT4, Nasty Nati? You have now forced the question.

Cincinnati or Cleveland, which city had its river catch on fire?
I could be wrong but it prolly ain't a good day when you got to call the fire department to come put out yall's river....:eek: :D

but "The Flats" district is kinda on point today (he said, sheepishly, tryin' to get back in moderator CT4's good graces before funny, unexplainable things start happening to his posts.)

CrimsonTide4 12-07-2003 04:59 PM

THE BENGALS are getting their BOOTIES spanked by the Ravens BETTER KNOWN AS The Football Team Formerly Known as the Cleveland Browns!!!!!!!!!1


BOOOOOOOO YAAAAAAAAAAAA:D :p :D :p :cool:

1savvydiva 12-07-2003 05:01 PM

I was going to wait until the game was over until I came and spread my joy...lemme get back to the tv


TONY...I have a special smiley for you!!! :p

1savvydiva 12-07-2003 05:18 PM

OKAY, I think it's pretty much safe to say...

TONY....KISS IT!!!
http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-027.gif

LMAO!

TonyB06 12-07-2003 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1savvydiva
OKAY, I think it's pretty much safe to say...

TONY....KISS IT!!!
http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...smiley-027.gif

LMAO!

1Savvydiva,
I always man up and handle what I got due me. Ok, your cheatin'-azz Buzzards, excuse me, Ravens, won today. Congrats to you on their effort today. As for the new smiley, although I like dem hazel eyes of yourn, Ima have to hold up on honoring your request...:p

Besides, you betta hope your math holds up; yall got a 1 game lead with 3 to play. You choke that away, you gon be in serious need of "da thumper" when I get finished wit chu!!!!

CT4, I know with your little ragamuffin team you didn't throw in on this? How you gon gravy-train what Baltimore did?!? After St. Louis gets through giving yall "the business end" on Monday night, I may come in here looking for you. Just make sure you here, ok :D

...dang, some people just DO NOT know how to watch football. :D

1savvydiva 12-07-2003 05:44 PM

LMBO!!!!
*blinking my eyes @ you!*

TonyB06 12-07-2003 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1savvydiva
LMBO!!!!
*blinking my eyes @ you!*

..sniff, well, at least you know how to console a brotha as I work through these lonely hours in the aftermath of our defeat. ;)

CrimsonTide4 12-07-2003 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06
1Savvydiva,
I always man up and handle what I got due me. Ok, your cheatin'-azz Buzzards, excuse me, Ravens, won today. Congrats to you on their effort today. As for the new smiley, although I like dem hazel eyes of yourn, Ima have to hold up on honoring your request...:p

Besides, you betta hope your math holds up; yall got a 1 game lead with 3 to play. You choke that away, you gon be in serious need of "da thumper" when I get finished wit chu!!!!

CT4, I know with your little ragamuffin team you didn't throw in on this? How you gon gravy-train what Baltimore did?!? After St. Louis gets through giving yall "the business end" on Monday night, I may come in here looking for you. Just make sure you here, ok :D

...dang, some people just DO NOT know how to watch football. :D

HC I DO NOT HAVE A TEAM!?!!?!?
HC the BROWNS were never my team unless a teacher was offering extra credit for wearing orange and brown?
HC tee hee?
HC GOOD LUCK TONIGHT PANTHERS?!?!!?


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