Well I saw it and I don't know if you all watched Road Rules 8 with Ayanna but I thought she was kind of crazy then. Personally, I think she went way too far. This guy clearly does not know a lot about race relations in the US nor should he have to. Do all of us know about race relations in every country in the world? I doubt it. All I'm saying is I would've kindly explained to him the history and meaning of the word and how it is perceived when someone white uses it. Now if he continued to use it after the fact, then that would be a different story. Anyway, Ayanna made herself look crazy by hitting him and not even at least talking first. If you noticed Kamilah was a lot more calm when she was explaining it to him. That's exactly how I would have handled it. You cannot get too angry with people for something they do not know. Just simply take the time to educate them.

I saw the epsiode and I don't think she should have been kicked off of the show. Whereas we my not have swung on him, others may have. It really depends on your experience and the amount of racism that you have experienced in life. I do think that MTV down played the fact that he used a racial slur and they did not address the issue. I also think the the other black people on the show did not support her. MTV's Real World/Road Rules has always shown blacks in a negative light. They put blacks on there that they know are going to be high strung. I don't know if anyone saw other episodes but Christian was also saying previously that they were talking Jive. I don't think the white castmates could relate to the way that she felt, because they will never know how it feels to be black. Although Julie did try to stick up for her.

I haven't seen the show in ages so I wouldn't know where to begin, but a comment got my attention.

Obviously he just didn't know any better and hitting him can't be justified. If black folks would learn to strike that word from their vocabulary, it wouldn't be a problem! However, I don't know very much about race relations in every country, but if I were going there you bet I would find out as much as I could before setting foot on their soil, especially the things they would find offensive!

I agree with you however, again, there are more mature ways to handle situations. And while you can read and research as much as you want, a lot of learning will probably come from your interaction with those actual countrymen and not just what you research. There is no way for everyone to know everything about a country. And even after all the research you do, if you made a mistake and a person started hitting you without you even understanding why, how would you feel. I'm not justifying what he said I'm just saying that he didn't even get a chance until after the fact to understand what he had done.

Also, Black people are not the only race of people who live in America. So it'd be quite hard to research race relations.

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Owning your blackness and owning a word designed to denigrate blackness are two different things. The sooner we learn that as a people, the less we'll have to deal w/ people who "hear [us] people use the word...all the time"

I have to agree with you. That sista has issues! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif She was always going off on someone or something. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif She didn't have to hit the guy. Granted anyone of us would be upset violence was totally un-called for.

I said hitting him could not be justified (just in case that sentence was missed). She could have taken that as an opportunity to educate. The United States is a complex country so "do as the Romans do" doesn't work here.

Certain words in the English language take on different meanings in different English speaking countries. Before I said any word that I wasn't familiar with, I think I would find out what it means. Of course, that is just what I would do. I would rather be safe than sorry.

WOW!

I didn't see it.

Yeah. For some reason we feel like we have some type of ownership of the word and therefore the right to use it.

It's similar with the word b__ch. I've seen two women come up and be BEST FRIENDS and greet each other like "What's up hoe?" Or "What's up b__ch." It's like "Nothin' tramp." However, if a man calls a woman a hoe, tramp or otherwise...IT'S ON!!!

There's some feeling that belonging to the group allows one to utilize these derogatory terms as terms of endearment.

I am in Los ANgeles. I hear Caucasians and Hispanic people call each other N-I double G-A all the time. No one comes up and says "Hey, y'all ain't n*ggas, I am. Don't let me hear you say that again." But behind closed doors, people talk about it. How everyone is a n*gga, now. I don't go up to my African American sistahs and say "Hey Chicana." or to my male friends and say "Hey, ese." These words have meaning and although not negative to Hispanic people, still I feel like I do not have the "right" to use them.

Who knows, if dogs could speak perhaps they'd tell us they were pissed off because we refer to our TRUE homies as our "dawgs..."

I would have simply dialogued with the young man. Perhaps asked him if he didn't know it was a racial slur, what exactly did he think the word meant and take it from there.

Sorry so long.

I saw it.... Ayanna IS crazy.... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gifWell, better said, she is person who feels things VERY deeply. She's got a plethora of reasons to have issues -- primarily, her mom died last year...
~HOWEVER~
The "violence" (so-called) on the little Norweigan boy WAS unjustified and unmerited ... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif
Ayanna is a pretty intelligent chick -- and she knew he didn't know any better. She spent her entire Road Rules trip abroad, on a boat.... & I am sure she didn't have Tips & Tricks for Happy Race Relations Handook (vol.1) . She knows how different EACH culture on this globe is. Anyway, she used to throw stuff and act crazy when she was out at sea on Road Rules, so it's hard for people not to think she's a nut and be afraid of her (remember the voo-doo episode -- w/ the matches and powder? LOL http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif )...
I can understand MTV's standpoint -- cuz they asked ol' girl point blank if she would handle it differently another time aound -- she said "no"... out the door I say. Then she tried to make it their fault... "They're throwing me off... I am not LEAVING, I am kicked off..." She knew the rules.
But they didn't have to make an entire show about it. MTV has been contributing to the general public's negative conception that Blacks have issues with controlling themselves (one way or another). http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif Not all of us are in need of Anger Management classes. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif
PLUS ~~ We don't get the benefit of seeing the entire story... Remember, it's all edited. I guess the revolution (and all of the tiny ones in between) will not be televised after all....

On another note... I did like how Kamillah approached the situation... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif She pulled ol' boy to the side and told him to holla' at her if he needed some schooling on race relations!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif
LOL!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif
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The "N" word -----again!
 

Hopefully someone out there is an MTV Real World/ Road Rules fan like me. If so, did you happen to catch last night's episode? It was soley devoted to Ayanna's (the only African-American female on the RR team) being kicked off the show. Long story short, a white-male cast mate made a joke using the "N" word. Ayanna totally lost it and struck him. Granted I would have totally flipped. The "N" word is unacceptable however, neither is violence. In the end where I should have felt offended and sided with her, I found myself feeling compassionate towards the white male. One reason being, was that he has no knowledge of the level of offense African-Americans take with this word (he is Norweign. His exact words were "I hear you people call each other "Ni**er" all the time, how was I to know that it was an racial slur"
Dang y'all! How the heck is it that in 2001 there are still people (black and white) that don't know that using this word is totally unacceptable regardless of your race.
I once heard someone say that they can use it because they own their blackness. How ignorant is that argument.
I guess I said all this to pose the question what would you have done? I might have flipped on him and later calmly explained to him why I was offended. I would have never put my hands on him (unless he was making a direct statement towards me and one thing led to another, well you know) So get at me y'all! I'm curious to hear everyone's thoughts on this, especially the brothers who embrace the term.

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Ayanna was a little wild on her season - and the voodoo thing was a bit much. She's the second black female to be kicked off Road Rules for violence, Gladys being the first. Kameelah seems to be really educated though.. I know she just graduated from Stanford pre-med - and is also a woman of Alpha Kappa Alpha.

I saw it too (well about the last 10 minutes)

I was just wondering did it seem that the whole team was just upset about what the "sista" did and not what caused it?

My hubby and I felt that though violence is unacceptable
shouldn't that guy have to take some kinda multi cultural cousre or something

I agree with the fact that she should have talked to the man before hitting him, but what is NOT fair is the fact that she got kicked off. The Real World Seattle had a similar incident, where an Af. American man (cannot remember his name), slapped one of the roomies (a woman-mind you-because she called him a homosexual), but instead of the producers kicking him off of the show, they decided to let the roomies do a vote to see if they wanted him to remain (he was voted to stay)...

Why is it that Ayanna is always picked on when she stars on a season of Real World/Road Rules?? When they tried to accuse her of practicing voodoo, NOT ONE stood by her. How many of us sprinkle baby powder on the sheets to make them smell fresh? From time to time, I know that I do! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif How many of us light incense every now and then? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif
But when she accused Veronica of plagarism (and she had proof to back it up), of COURSE everyone stood up for Veronica. I think that they can't handle the fact that Ayanna is outspoken, and very direct. There were other ways she could have handled the situation than resorting to physical confrontation, but I see a sense of bias with the producers of these two shows.

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I didn't see this episode, but I did see the Semester at Sea with Ayanna. I think a lot of her behavior stems from the fact that her mother was battling cancer and then finally succumbed to the disease. I don't know. People grieve in different ways. And there is no time limit when you're dealing with loss. I think she needs some kind of therapy (at the very least) to let it all out.

Classy_Diva5: Steven was the name of the young man that was sent to anger management classes. It seemed to have done wonders for him.

As for Veronica on "RR/SAS" I think she should've gotten kicked off. She was not only a liar (she clearly plagiarized that paper) she was also a thief. Remember how she stole Apuaa's shirt and hid it in her closet? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif Then she tried to get Apuaa make up some lie about the whole situation. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif That Veronica is trouble. To add insult to injury, MTV then had the nerve to put her on its RR/RW Challenge show. How did her trailer mates live with her? Did they not watch her on SAS? Did they have their stuff on lockdown? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

Greetings laydiez...I haven't posted here before but I thought I would since I wrote an editorial about this very subject in my school newspaper which was printed today and should be online next week.

In any case, my whole beef with the show is that...it is true Ayanna has some emotional issues she needs to work on (losing a parent can be a real emotional rollercoaster http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif )and I do not condone her hitting Christian (the young white man from Norway)...BUT...the producers kicked her off not only because she would do the same thing again if the situation occured but they also had the nerve to ask her to appologize to him and they did not ask him to appologize to her. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif

Now...the arguement that "oh he didn't know any better" in my mind is a crock of B.S. simply because would we be this lenient if this young man was from a small town in the United States? I think not. I attend a small satellite campus and believe me I have met white people on this campus that have never ever in their lives met a person of color until they came to my school. Shocking but true. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif

So this sympathy that we give him is not really deserved. It is hard for me to believe that if he knew the word n*gger then he also had a vague notion about the conotation of those words. His foreigner status does not remove him from scrutiny.
The other issues that pissed me off about the show was that no one in the RR cast stuck up for her.

The Real World Cast especially Kameelah and Julie (the Mormon girl...go figure!) stood up for her. In fact, Laterrian was one of the main ones putting Ayanna down. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif

Now the violence, was completely uncalled for but if someone should have been kicked off and we're going to play the "lets protect people" game. Then how about kicking Ayanna off for violence, Laterrian for the whole "white ass" comment that started the mess, and Christian for using the n-word. All of these things could be considered offensive and warrent removal from the cast.

But...and this is my final thought...if you look back at the history of RW/RR (especially RW) you will note the interesting racial situations that are played out on the show. Notice that when there is a black person on the show they are in a few small categories: ignorant of blackness, pimp/playa, (too cool so they never show them: i.e. Mohammed from the San Francisco real world), "angry", "lets just all get along". Think about it.

Thanks for letting me share. Sorry it was so long. Peace http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/cool.gif

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I don't have cable so I haven't seen this show. But if I were in the situation described, I would have politely informed the Norwegian that using the 'N' word is inappropriate, even if he hears some African Americans use it. If he intended to be malicious, I still would not have struck him.

Why do we allow this word to have so much power over us? The 'N' word is just that. A word. Yes, I fully understand the history behind its use. Yes, I have been called a n*gger on more than one occasion. However, I am intelligent enough to realize that 'others' use this word to provoke an ugly response from us. When we stop providing everyone's entertainment, like this young lady did, there will no longer be a reason for 'others' to use it against us.

Maybe I'm not being sensitive enough again, but that's my $.02.



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I'm sorry, but I can't get all emotional/sympathetic for Ayanna or any other person of color who purposely goes on these shows for the publicity, then acts an ass/gets all new to the game, whether they feel their behavior is justified or not. There ARE better ways of dealing with perceived or real acts of racism; hitting a person on national televisoin is not one of them. I don't think losing one's mother to cancer can be used as an excuse.

Ayanna HAD to have understood the game; she has been on an MTV show before. Thus, she understands that these shows are heavily edited to fit the producers' desired plot lines (slutty guy/girl; troubled gay/lesbian; innocent do-gooder; angry black guy/girl, etc.). She also understood that she was playing the role of "fiery/angry black woman". So, just as some on this board are saying the Norwegian guy shouldn't receive any sympathy (he should have known better), IMO, Ayanna shouldn't either (cuz she CERTAINLY should know better). Hitting someone is not right, and Ayanna's behavior simply played into MTV's and the wider world's perception that blacks are emotional, volatile people who act on instinct and can't think rationally and long-term.

It's really sad how we as a people will coddle even the most inappropriate speech and behavior from one of our own, making excuses all the way, but have a freakin' coronary about others' inappropriate speech and behavior. We always use the same tired excuse "racism in this country gives us a right to act an ass," or something to that effect. Yes, I understand that the lingering effects of racism do pervade our existence and thus inform our actions, but the blatant sting of racism dominated our foreparents' every move/opportunity, and most of them didn't cut the fool like some of us feel free to do.

Right is right and being black doesn't always give us carte blanche to forget the good sense our foreparents gave us.

Sorry for the book yall!

EXACTLY!

I don't believe that MTV is out to portray blacks in a negative light because there have been many black cast members that haven't acted irrational-Kameelah, Cynthia, the girl from London, Heather B, etc. Yes, at times they might have gotten mad and said things, but how many of us and the white people on the show haven't?

Everybody on that show gets rilled up. MTV doesn't pick the happy, straight, calm, friendly, on-track, etc. people (no matter what race) because that's not interesting to the audience. I know that I wouldn't watch it if it were so and not many others would. MTV has never been the norm and never will-that's what makes it so popular.

Plain and simple, this girl was out of line. She was CRAZY then and still is CRAZY. If she is so emotional about whatever is going on in her life, then she shouldn't have went back on the show-considering all the drama she went through the first time. She should have used the time to get her life on track.

Unfornately we may need to occasionally school "others" about race relations. However first we need to start with ourselves. Calling another Black Man a Ni88a is not okay simply b/c you are Black. If you think in terms of a Ni88a, you'll always be a Ni88a. Nor is it acceptable for females to call each other Bit*hes and Hoes. But why should we be called anything but, when so many of us are acting like Ni88as, Bit*hes & Hoes.
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Amen!

I couldn't agree with you more. I think it's a shame that people do that..at some point I did to, but we must break all those cycles

Interesting to note that the Lieutenant Governor of California, Cruz Bustamente use this blasphemy at dinner put on by the Black State Capitol Worker's Union...

No, we don't own words to describe our worlds. However, as my old english professor would say, "Words are powerful, they are the symbols of ideas..."

VERY LONG POST, TAKE HEED!!!!!

Okay, now I've seen the show, now I feel warranted in voicing an opinion.


My take on Christian:

I don't believe that Christian is as innocent as he claims to be. As those of us who watch regularly know, this was not his first faux pas, but in my opinion, it was his least offensive.

I was a lot more OUTDONE when he told Ayanna and Laterrian that he "couldn't understand them sometimes, because they talk JIVE." and that sometimes he just, "says yes" even though he doesn't know what they're talking about. He must have access to somebody telling him something about black people to use the word JIVE, unless he's been wathing videos of THE MACK, or AIRPLANE 1, because who in the world still uses the word JIVE.

Then there was the time when he told Ayanna and Laterrian that he "must have some black in him", because he has big lips and a large nose. Now, he was told with love, respect and maturity that what he said was insulting. His response was to basically tell Laterrian that, "you know I don't mean it as an insult", so basically, quit tripping. What were Laterrian and Ayanna supposed to do, keep grinning until Christian stated making them sit on the back of that stupid bus. Or wait until he started getting off the bus late at night wearing a white sheet and carring a gasoline soaked cross, and some matches? Come on. IGNORANCE IS AS IGNORANCE DOES!!!!!

My question for Christian is this.... If you took a long vacation with your in-laws for the first time, and you kept putting your foot in your mouth, are you going to continue making yourself look like a jerk, or are you going to ask you spouse what is the best way to connect with your in-laws?

He had PLENTY of access to black people who were willing to assist him. HE NEVER ATTEMPTED TO GET AN INSIGHT. Christian spoke first, and dealt with cause/effect second.


My take on Ayanna:

I do not condone violence. I thought Ayanna was WAY OVER THE TOP in her reaction to the situation. There was absolutely no reason for her to put her hands on Christian. After all, she's not out at Ku Klux Klan rallies roughing up folks, so I don't agree with her methods at all.

However, Ayanna recently suffered a terrible loss. Speaking as a person who lost her father just nine short months ago, it's a devastating blow. Things that would be a 3 on a 10 point scale, suddenly become a 5545454 to the 11th power. I think christian really caught her off guard with his comment. The day before, she had opened herself up to him, and to hear him make that comment probably felt like somebody rpping the scab off of a sore that was just starting to heal.

My problem with Ayanna wasn't that she wouldn't apologize to Christian. Heck, who wants to apologize when they feel that they haven't done anything wrong? My problem is that she wouldn't OWN her behavior. She wanted to say "It's just me being real to myself. I couldn't sleep if I wasn't true to myself." That's bull and she knows it.

My question for Ayanna is this... If she could have a conversation with cancer, would she want cancer to tell her that cancer took her mother because that's what cancer does? Cancer was just being itself? It couldn't sleep at night if it wasn't covering, destroying, rotting and breaking -down the organs of humans (my father died from liver cancer)? Or would she want cancer to say yes, it took her mother, but maybe there was another way it could have been handled.


Okay, these are just my opinoins.


Miss. Mocha

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He must have access to somebody telling him something about black people to use the word JIVE, unless he's been wathing videos of THE MACK, or AIRPLANE 1, because who in the world still uses the word JIVE.

Sidebar: LMAO! That is too funny. You really took me back. I love that movie. Remember the part with the nuns talking jive and playing the guitar!?! ...The sick girl with the IV that got knocked out!?! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif

Whew! I gotta catch my breath. Thanks for the trip down memory lane! I gotta go rent that movie. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Hi everyone. I realize this topic is four years old, but it touches on a topic that my friends and I have discussed many a times. I do not want to offend anybody and if I do, please let me know. I sometimes have trouble wording things. Just a little background on me... I am white. My parents were never married, so I grew up in two very different neighborhoods which I think has helped me be a well rounded individual. One neighborhood was predominately white and in the other we were the only white family. The color of skin is not one of the first things I notice. However I do live in the south. I overheard someone say the N word one day when I was about 5 and when I went home I said something with that word in it. My mom smacked me across my face and I haven't said that word sense. Personally,the N word makes me cringe whenever I hear it. I think it makes people sound uneducated and direspectful. As someone said earlier, African-Americans call each other Ni..a and it is perfectly acceptable, however if someone outside of that race (with the exception of extremely close friends) says it, it is an extremely hurtful phrase that can cause fights and riots. Its kind of like girls calling each other sluts, hoes, whores, etc... it is okay for girls to call other girls that, but as soon as a boy calls a girl one of those names, a smackdown is in order. I have an 8 year old brother. He picks up on a lot of phrases he shouldn't...however in my opinion some of the phrases he picks up on shouldn't be said in his presence. The problem I have with groups being able to call members of their groups names without consequences is children pick up on the phrases and start using them. They see girls calling each other hoes and laughing it up, but the minute they say the phrase they get smacked and get into severe trouble. Every group has an adjective that is hurtful when used by people not in their group (and sometimes by people in their group)...African-Americans-Ni..a, White folks-Cracker, Gays- Fag...And I am as guilty as the next person for calling my girl friends sluts, hoes, and homewreckers.... but what I don't understand is why we have to use the words at all...why do we have to teach the next generation these spiteful words? Sorry my post got so long, and again it was not my intention to offend anyone and I am really sorry if I did. Thanks for any input...Elicia

It's very interesting that you brought this thread back to the top b/c the following article popped up in my inbox today. Since it is fairly long, then I will just quickly say that I can not condone the usage of the "N-Word" in any form from anyone. I have heard the arguments regarding the spelling of the word as well as those saying that we need to take ownership and change the meaning of the word. However, for myself and those around me, I feel it is a slap in the face to my ancestors to make light of a word carried so much pain and hurt for so many years.

Marie

A Hip Hop Clothing Store Called 'Nigger'

My name is David Sylvester and I recently completed a charitable bicycle
trip in Africa, riding over 7000 miles from Cairo, Egypt to Cape Town, South
Africa . The trip made me the first and only African American to cross two
continents on a bicycle. I have plenty of great and fascinating stories.
Many are funny, others bittersweet, some are poignant, but all are
entertaining. Surprisingly one story has stood out and if it was not for the
fact that I have a picture of it, many would never believe it. and it is for
that reason that I am sharing it with you.

While in Lilongwe, Malawi, I came across a store by the name of "Niggers"
---that's right " Niggers"! The other riders, who were all white, could not
wait to inform me of this to see my reaction. Initially, I thought that it
was a very bad joke but when the other riders were adamant about the
existence of the store, I had to see it for myself.

What I found was a store selling what the owner called 'hip hop' style
clothing . It was manned by two gentlemen --- one of them asleep! (Talk
about living up to or in this case down to a stereotype) I asked the guys
what was up with the store name. After hearing my obvious non - Malawian
accent and figuring out that I was from America, the man thumped his chest
proudly and said "P-Diddy New York City! we are the niggers!"

My first reaction was to laugh, because many things when isolated can be
very funny, but it quickly dawned on me that this was so not funny at all.
It was pathetic. I did these bicycle trips across the USA and through the
'Mother -Land' in honor of one of my good friends, mentors and fellow
African American, Kevin Bowser, who died on 9/11. Here I am, a black man
riding across the world on his bicycle in honor of another black man, riding
'home' and what do I see?? Some Africans calling themselves Niggers! They
were even so proud of it they put it on their store front to sell stuff.
When I relay the story to folks back home in Philadelphia, most of them
laugh too and rationalize it by saying 'well, we can say it to each other'
or 'there is a difference' or even 'they just spelled it wrong. It should
have been 'nigga's' or 'niggah's' Gee like that would make a difference.

The issue is not the spelling. I was wrong. We are wrong. There is no
justification for an infraction of this magnitude. The word and the
sentiment behind it is Flat out wrong! We have denigrated and degraded
ourselves to the point that our backwards mindset has spread like a cancer
and infected our source, our brothers, our sisters, our Mother Land. I have
traveled all over the world and have never seen a store by the name of "Jew
Devils", 'spic bastards' , 'muff divin''' dykes' or anything like that- Only
the store niggers!

I am to blame for this. Every time I said the word I condoned it, by not
correcting others or rationalizing it gave it respectability, by looking the
other way when others said 'hey nigga what's up' allowed others to see it
and ultimately that when I purchase CDs, DVDs, T-shirts and other stuff, I
enriched it. I now see the error in my ways and I am so so sorry black men
and women. The flame that we called entertainment, that was only to warm and
entertain us, now engulfs us and scorches our own self esteem. If a child
only knows to refer to men and women as niggers, bitches, pimps and hoes,
then what is he/she to grow up thinking of themselves and others as he/she
gets older?

This is no joke you can see my site
www.contribute2.org/<http://www.contribute2.org/> and read some more
stories. The bottom line is this I rode over 12000 miles on 2 continents
through 15 states and 13 countries and broke 2 bikes in the process to get
to a store in AFRICA called niggers. I am willing to step and admit my part
in the havoc that we have wrought on our mindset but I think that We all are
to blame.

I finish with 4 things:


if you don't like being called a nigger, bitch, faggot, dyke, spic, Jew dog,
wop, towel head or anything of that ilk- then THINK. THINK before you speak
those words, write those lyrics, support that rhetoric and most of all THINK
before you purchase! Purchasing is akin to compliance- I may like the beats
and rhythms of some songs but I can not support it any more. You rappers are
intelligent- find another word to describe your selves

Slaphappy
 

Interesting that that doesn't happenend that much these days... That's why the next generation won't learn the difference...

The "N" word
 

We need to actually realize the negative connation that this word has on our race. It was thrust upon us by slave masters....who wanted to demoralize us! why some use this word as a term of endearment is mystry to me. The good point is more and more educated mothers and fathers are teaching their children not to use this vulgar term so loosly. I know at times I act a fool on the board and kid around but some issues I take more seriously than others. Some need to do more history searching on the terms they use. History can repeat itself in different way. :eek: