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IheartAphi 11-19-2003 07:30 PM

Fraternity bashes Sorority
 
I am a senior at NCSU in North Carolina and Joined Alpha Phi my sophomore year, the same year we closed. On our school website a total jerk moron posted the following:

You can't, here's why...

A new sorority cannot be formed until all the other sororities have reached capacity, that is part of the reason the sorority rush is done the way it is. If you know anything about sorority rush, it is full of insane rules and regulations, these are so that no sorority will look better than any other, and shitty ones will have just as good a chance of getting girls. There are only 6 sororities on campus becuase no one ever wanted to join Phi Mu, 'cause it sucked. Since Phi Mu had shit membership, and the school wouldn't allow a new sorority until all the current ones were equal, it was stuck. Finally, that fucking phat farm was destroyed, and this allowed room for the new sorority on campus. So unless all of the current sororities reach capacity at 120 members (about), there will not be room for a new one.

While he is grossly wrong about the expansion process, he totally bashed my group in the cruelest and callous way. He couldnt even get the sororitys name right (Alpha Phi). Its really sad, because my dad is in the same fraternity as this guy and I am friends with a good bit his older brothers (we are all graduating).

Does this junk ever stop? Why must greek organizations hold such negative views about each other. While he is ignorant and elitest, it still hurts to have people call something you love "fat farm" like we are a bunch of animals. Also, not that it matters, most of the groups on campus have around the same amount of larger girls, but only one group gets the stigma

PhiPsiRuss 11-19-2003 07:45 PM

I would let your dad know, and have him write a dispassionate and thoughtful letter of concern to his fraternity's HQ.

breathesgelatin 11-19-2003 08:14 PM

I can't believe he would say something like that.

You say he posted that on the website? You mean the NCSU website?? :eek: Maybe you could get it taken off whatever board he posted that on?

Good luck from a fellow Carolina girl! :)

KappaTarzan 11-19-2003 08:21 PM

ohhhhh if your dad is a member of the same greek org as him DEFINITELY have him write a letter to them! that would be the best thing.. and people are stupid. they say stupid things. sorry :(

KillarneyRose 11-19-2003 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I would let your dad know, and have him write a dispassionate and thoughtful letter of concern to his fraternity's HQ.
Absolutely!

PhiPsiRuss 11-19-2003 08:31 PM

..almost forgot
 
If your dad does write a letter (and he should), address it directly to the Executive Director and FedEx it. The $20 to overnight the letter will get it on the ED's desk and emphasize just how important this is to your dad.

sigtau305 11-19-2003 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I would let your dad know, and have him write a dispassionate and thoughtful letter of concern to his fraternity's HQ.
definately.

bethany1982 11-19-2003 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I would let your dad know, and have him write a dispassionate and thoughtful letter of concern to his fraternity's HQ.
PLEASE do this!

sigep533 11-19-2003 10:08 PM

You people act like people dont have nick names and thoughts of each other all the time...
I can't understand..I mean its good its always happy and cheery on this board but greek life isnt always..

I mean yay it shouldnt have been said, but you can't do much about it.

Tom Earp 11-19-2003 10:09 PM

Many times, there is no reason for stupidity!:(

But, it will always reach out and try to grasp you.

Have your Father email the Chapter. State what a dumb ass one of his so called Brothers has become.

PhiPsiRuss 11-19-2003 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by sigep533
I mean yay it shouldnt have been said, but you can't do much about it.
I have to disagree, and strongly at that. By getting the HQ to contact the chapter president, and do so forcefully, that chapter will bear down strongly on the member who disgraced his fraternity. The only way that this won't happen is if it is a disfuntional chapter, in which case the fraternity may be looking for any excuse to intercede.

The text of the post of this sophmoric fraternity member speaks volumes, and it will disgrace any lucid member of that fraternity who reads it.

33girl 11-19-2003 10:19 PM

If I read the original post correctly, this is posted on an official school website. By leaving it up the school could be in trouble regarding libel, especially from Phi Mu, who is completely innocent in all of this.

definitely let the school and the fraternity know.

GeekyPenguin 11-19-2003 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sigep533
You people act like people dont have nick names and thoughts of each other all the time...
I can't understand..I mean its good its always happy and cheery on this board but greek life isnt always..

I mean yay it shouldnt have been said, but you can't do much about it.

Yeah, we all talk trash. But it shouldn't be done where it's visible to an outside community. If you can't keep your hatred within your chapter, at least keep it within the Greek community.

Here's why that's such a bad idea:

Say one of the Alpha Phi alums from NCSU was wealthy, which happens, since as Greeks we're going to make more money. :p She decides "Hey, even though my chapter is closed, I had a great time at NCSU and I'm going to donate some money back to the Biology department for a new lab." She goes to the website and sees that in the forums. Is she going to donate any money now? Probably not.

It's not all that far-fetched. I can tell you for a fact that my school of initiation will not get one red cent from me because of the behavior of people in their alumni office. I can't imagine what something like this would make me do.

hoosier 11-19-2003 10:46 PM

Before you act, verify.
 
Before you act, verify.

Unless you know that Mr. AAA actually posted it, and unless you know that he belongs to XYZ GLO at NCSU, you should probably forget it.

Anonymous postings on www forums - and in this case even getting the name of the sorority wrong - aren't a reliable source.

And congratulations to the NCSU for getting an NCAA Soccer Tournament bid. I think my son's team knocked them out in OT sudden death last time they got a bid.

DGMarie 11-20-2003 12:26 AM

You know, maybe it's just a vibe, but when I read that comment my first thought was that it was written by a woman, not a man.

PhiPsiRuss 11-20-2003 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DGMarie
You know, maybe it's just a vibe, but when I read that comment my first thought was that it was written by a woman, not a man.
Maybe it was written by a metrosexual man?;)

WhiteDaisy128 11-20-2003 12:44 AM

It was written on a non-university web site. It is on a VERY popular message board however. There are over 11000 web site members from the campus community. However, the web site is NOT moderated for the most part - having this post removed would be very very hard. The whole point of the board is a free-speech outlet for the campus community. You have to register a user name and the user that made this comment is well known on the boards. It's like a little community...just like on here...but even more so because many people know each other in person as well.

33girl 11-20-2003 11:27 AM

is this on Daily Jolt? if you have to register a name they should have a moderator to get rid of things like this.

another school had probs with anti-greek postings, slurs etc so they really cracked down.

WhiteDaisy128 11-20-2003 11:41 AM

It's not the jolt...it IS a NCSU community web page, but the university has nothing to do with it. It was a spawn of a senior engineering project that grew to enormous numbers. There are moderators, but their job is not to take things down when people get mad...it's to take things down that are absolutely disgusting (think: pornographic images are okay, but like real life severed head bodies aren't - usually). They are really big on the free speach thing - "it's just the internet" - they don't think people really get their feelings hurt. There are some real jerks on the boards...such as this guy.

butterfly2001nc 11-20-2003 11:46 AM

I'm an alumni of NCSU and a member of this message board also. I actually saw this post and you have to realize that most of the people don't know alot about the greek system. even if they are in greek orgs as well they get their info all screwed up! a lot of people on the site in general bash the greek community...i think it's the whole sterotype of greeks in general b/c the Greek System at NCSU is fabulous at least to me it is. I worked in the GL office my last 2yrs. at State and the Greeks that met through that were all very nice, get a crazy during PA Recruitment but that's to be expected with as much as they all do.

In general, it was disrespectful what he said and all and shows that he does not even know about the GC in which he is apart of.

The post more than likely won't be removed or anything since it is unmoderated and all like CJ said.

We just have to hope that everyone is as ignorant and try to rise about it all.

IheartAphi 11-20-2003 02:34 PM

It could actually get removed, I lived with the guy who runs the website's future sister in law and his fiancee was my RA. However, its not that big of a deal to ask them to do it though.
The guy is dumb and just needs a serious lesson on etiquette and how to present your chapter in the best manner. I actually think he is the President this year.
I know my President would seriously have a talk to anyone that said anything nasty about other groups.

He is registered on the site and also has Fraternity photos up and of himself. You can also check the IP address of the posts.

DeltAlum 11-20-2003 04:51 PM

Which is all the more reason to have your dad write a letter to his Nationals. I certainly would in this case. There's no excuse for this kind of bashing. Really bad news.

While I agree that his letter should be somewhat dispassionate, I'd be sure that the executive staff of the fraternity knows that he is not happy with this.

It really does make the chapter and thus the fraternity look real bad.

oceanphi01 11-21-2003 10:48 AM

You should definitely have your dad write that letter, if for nothing more than to show that particular chapter their shortcomings in membership. Who would want to portray their beloved organization as complete chauvanistic jerks?

ChaosDST 11-21-2003 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by breathesgelatin
I can't believe he would say something like that.

You say he posted that on the website? You mean the NCSU website?? :eek: Maybe you could get it taken off whatever board he posted that on?

Good luck from a fellow Carolina girl! :)


Trust me when I say that there are A LOT worse things on this NCSU student message board. I am shocked and appalled on the regular.

ChaosDST 11-21-2003 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russellwarshay
I would let your dad know, and have him write a dispassionate and thoughtful letter of concern to his fraternity's HQ.
I say "get over it."

Are you going to call in the "National Guard" everytime someone has something negative to say?

I'm sure there are other battles that need such reinforcement, this isn't one of them.

ChaosDST 11-21-2003 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
If I read the original post correctly, this is posted on an official school website. By leaving it up the school could be in trouble regarding libel, especially from Phi Mu, who is completely innocent in all of this.

definitely let the school and the fraternity know.

This is on our message board.

Students post all sorts of crap about all sorts of THINGS and PEOPLE (offensive things about professors and departments at the University). If the school is going to start censoring this board, they should've done so A LONG time ago for other topics.

If the school is going to censor EVERYTHING on that board...fine (there goes freedom of speech, too, though). But, to make this particular incident of such importance that it sparks censorship of this board...that is ridiculous.

I don't really see why the original poster gave the specifics regarding the school's name, either.


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