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thesweetestone 11-18-2003 02:55 PM

Michael Jackson's ranch seached by Police!
 
Top Stories - AP

Police Search Michael Jackson's Ranch
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LOS OLIVOS, Calif. - Investigators conducting a criminal probe swarmed Michael Jackson (news)'s Neverland Ranch on Tuesday, a sheriff's spokesman said. The purpose of the search was not disclosed.


Authorities from the Santa Barbara County sheriff's and district attorney's offices served a warrant about 8:30 a.m. as part of an "ongoing criminal investigation," Sgt. Chris Pappas said in a recorded statement on a media information line.


The district attorney's office had no comment, said legal secretary Debbie Popp.


It was not known whether Jackson or his children were at the Santa Ynez Valley property, which has its own zoo and amusement park with bumper cars, a merry-go-round and Ferris wheel.


Nearly 10 years have passed since the 45-year-old singing superstar faced a child-molestation investigation in a case that never resulted in criminal charges.


The singer who had international hits with the albums "Thriller" (1982), "Bad" (1987) and "Dangerous" (1991), saw his career begin to collapse in 1993 amid allegations he molested a boy. Jackson maintained his innocence, and charges were never filed. He reportedly paid a multimillion-dollar settlement.


Jackson is also connected to Hollywood private eye Anthony Pellicano, who has begun serving federal prison time for possessing illegal explosives, and is being investigated about whether he secretly taped conversations of celebrities and their lawyers.


Pellicano, 59, reportedly worked for Jackson while the singer was under investigation for child molestation in the early 1990s.


As the raid was under way, Court TV reported that the warrant was tied to allegations brought by a 12-year-old boy. That could not immediately be confirmed by The Associated Press.


Jackson's spokesman, Stuart Backerman, did not answer his cell phone and did not immediately return messages Tuesday.


In a television documentary broadcast on ABC earlier this year, Jackson said he had slept in a bed with many children. "When you say bed you're thinking sexual," the singer said. "It's not sexual, we're going to sleep. I tuck them in. ... It's very charming, it's very sweet."


The search came on the same day Epic Records released "Number Ones," a greatest hits collection featuring Jackson's new single, "One More Chance." On Nov. 26, CBS is scheduled to air a Jackson special consisting mainly of old concert footage.


Jackson has three children, and caused an international uproar last year when he displayed his baby, Prince Michael II, to fans by dangling him briefly from a fourth-floor balcony in Germany, where he had gone to accept an award.


Jackson called the incident a "terrible mistake," and Berlin authorities said the actions were not punishable.


Not much is known about Prince Michael II, whose mother has not been identified. The singer's 6-year-old son, Prince Michael I, and 5-year-old daughter, Paris, were born during his marriage to Debbie Rowe, his plastic surgeon's nurse, which ended in 1999.


He was also married to Lisa Marie Presley (news), Elvis's daughter, between 1994 and 1996.


Jackson routinely keeps the children's heads covered with cloth while escorting them in public — and he usually sports a surgical mask himself when out and about. He has said he wants to protect them from the public eye.

ZTAngel 11-18-2003 03:06 PM

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/eek2.gif

Honeykiss1974 11-18-2003 03:18 PM

I just heard this on my way in from lunch. :eek:

breathesgelatin 11-18-2003 04:20 PM

Michael Jackson has developed into a humongo freak...

Should this post be in another forum?

AlphaGam1019 11-18-2003 04:21 PM

yeah move it to entertainnnnnnnnment

no doubt some small boy is missing somewhere :P

ZTAngel 11-19-2003 10:48 AM

Here's an update:


Police Reportedly Have Warrant for Michael Jackson
Reuters to My Yahoo!
By Dan Whitcomb

LOS OLIVOS, Calif. (Reuters) - Police armed with a search warrant remained at Michael Jackson (news)'s Neverland Ranch in central California into Tuesday night, and a broadcast report early on Wednesday said officers also carried an arrest warrant for the pop superstar.

"The Jacksons' family attorney has confirmed that the Santa Barbara County Sheriff has issued an arrest warrant for Michael Jackson," NBC Television reported.

Police said without elaboration that they served "a search warrant as part of an ongoing criminal investigation."

Cable channel Court TV, which broke the story, quoted sources saying there had been a new allegation of sexual abuse brought by a 12-year-old boy against the King of Pop.

In 1994, Jackson reached a multimillion dollar out of court settlement with a 14-year-old boy who accused him of sexual molestation. No criminal charges were brought and Jackson denied any wrongdoing.

"We've seen this before; our response is 'Here we go again;' Michael has 24-hour-a-day supervision with him for the specific reason to protect him from these claims," family attorney Brian Oxman told NBC.

A news conference was scheduled for 11 a.m. PST in Santa Barbara.

Jackson, 45, was not at his ranch. His spokesman said he had been in Las Vegas for three weeks shooting a pop video.

"We cannot comment on law enforcement's investigation because we do not yet know what it is about. Michael will, as always, cooperate fully with authorities in any investigation even as it is conducted, yet again, while he is not home," said spokesman Stuart Backerman in a statement.

Jackson lashed out at the "rogues' gallery of hucksters and inside sources" who dominated the airwaves on Tuesday speculating on the investigation.

"These characters always seem to surface with a dreadful allegation just as another project, an album, a video, is being released," Jackson said in the statement.

The search warrant was executed on the day that a new greatest hits collection was released, featuring Jackson's latest single, "One More Chance."

Sheriff's deputies and officials from the Santa Barbara District Attorney's office activated the search warrant on Tuesday morning and stayed at the ranch into the night. Jackson has theme-park rides and a zoo there, which he occasionally throws open to local children.

The syndicated TV show Celebrity Justice said the search was prompted by revelations made by a 12-year-old Los Angeles boy in therapy sessions.

Celebrity Justice said the therapist felt compelled to report the information to authorities under a California law requiring health care professionals who "know or reasonably suspect" child abuse to disclose such suspicions.

Tuesday's search warrant follows a tumultuous year for Jackson, whose talents as an entertainer have been eclipsed by his bizarre personal life.

In February, he revealed in a British television documentary that he sometimes shared his Neverland bedroom with young boys. A 12-year-old cancer survivor called Gavin, spoke of his affection for Jackson and of enjoying sleepovers with the pop star at Neverland.

Jackson later complained that the documentary maker had violated his trust, adding in a statement that he had "never, and would never, treat a child inappropriately or expose them to any harm and totally refutes any suggestions to the contrary."

In November last year, Jackson stunned fans in Berlin by dangling his barefoot baby from a hotel balcony. In June, he settled a $12 million breach of contract lawsuit by his former top advisor, avoiding a trial that threatened to expose details of his financial empire.

swissmiss04 11-19-2003 11:42 AM

Not to be cynical, but this kid's parents KNEW that Michael had a history of questionable relationships w/ children. Yet they still let him go spend the night at Neverland? Looks like they were looking for trouble (not to mention $40 million like the last case). Not to say he didn't do it. But common sense dictates you keep your kids way the hell away from folks like him. I don't care if he's famous or not.

Kevin 11-19-2003 01:02 PM

And now there is an arrest warrant out for him...

Rudey 11-19-2003 01:32 PM

CRAP
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
And now there is an arrest warrant out for him...
This is pure crap people!!! He's not guilty. He never did anything the first time. The kid made a bunch of lies and when they stripped Michael down they didn't see what the kid said existed there. He had to pay just because the damage was done and was going to get worse if it got dragged out even if he won.

People need to leave him alone. He is the king of pop. On top of that think about what you'll do by the time you're 25 and what he did. Will you ever even compare? I know I won't. He is a good guy.

Why don't people just concentrate on Kobe and R Kelly? R Kelly who makes videos of child porn. R Kelly who marries girls that are incredibly underage and divorces them shortly after???

-Rudey
--And if the parents think he's a risk then don't send him there. This is BS!

33girl 11-19-2003 01:37 PM

Re: CRAP
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
--And if the parents think he's a risk then don't send him there. This is BS!
Shoot, there are parents out there who would lock their kids in a pirahna tank if they could get $32.98 out of the deal. Let alone all the accoutrements MJ provides.

smiley21 11-19-2003 01:53 PM

i actually feel sorry for michael. i wonder what things would be like if he never had the allegations and he never had any surgeries. that is a nice thought cause he would be insanely popular and well liked. more so than now.

Rudey 11-19-2003 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smiley21
i actually feel sorry for michael. i wonder what things would be like if he never had the allegations and he never had any surgeries. that is a nice thought cause he would be insanely popular and well liked. more so than now.
But people are mean and they have to rip on this guy. He is the king of pop and i support this monarchy.

In fact he is on the top 5 list of American brands most easily recognized. Anywhere else in the world and they'd be nicer.

-Rudey

wreckingcrew 11-19-2003 03:10 PM

I point more to the greedy family that settled out of court 10 years ago.

By doing that they subjected God knows how many more children to the King of Pedophilia.

Lock him up.

Kitso
KS 361

texas*princess 11-19-2003 03:29 PM

there is a warrant out for his arrest! :o

Rudey 11-19-2003 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
I point more to the greedy family that settled out of court 10 years ago.

By doing that they subjected God knows how many more children to the King of Pedophilia.

Lock him up.

Kitso
KS 361

Dude you don't even know that. That child was a liar. What he said did not exist. And then if he was molested why did he retract even when he got money? The king of pop will always be here.

-Rudey
--Don't hate.

Sistermadly 11-19-2003 03:53 PM

He's been asked to surrender to police!

Sistermadly 11-19-2003 03:59 PM

Re: CRAP
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Why don't people just concentrate on Kobe and R Kelly?
You have a point there, regarding R Kelly. I was sickened that he was nominated for an American Music Award. It was a slap in the face for child molestation victims everywhere.

Kevin 11-19-2003 04:01 PM

Re: Re: CRAP
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly
You have a point there, regarding R Kelly. I was sickened that he was nominated for an American Music Award. It was a slap in the face for child molestation victims everywhere.
What's worse is that Americans continue to give Kelly their vote of confidence by continuing to buy his music. They're directly supporting his lifestyle by giving him their money.

wreckingcrew 11-19-2003 04:04 PM

Re: Re: Re: CRAP
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
What's worse is that Americans continue to give Kelly their vote of confidence by continuing to buy his music. They're directly supporting his lifestyle by giving him their money.
careful there kt,

some of the more vocal members of GC will fly in here saying it's not fair to "CENSOR" R. Kelly.

Kitso
KS 361 times the rest of us know that there's a difference between a boycott(at least in this case, a boycott on buying music) and censoring

Sistermadly 11-19-2003 04:04 PM

Too true, ktsnake.

Rudey 11-19-2003 04:06 PM

Re: Re: CRAP
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly
You have a point there, regarding R Kelly. I was sickened that he was nominated for an American Music Award. It was a slap in the face for child molestation victims everywhere.
I can't imagine anything worse. There was even a NYTimes article on this. It wasn't even that critical of this guy. This isn't like Michael Jackson. It's been confirmed. He has videos. He married Aaliyah when she barely had a figure.

If they find evidence on Michael then I'll feel bad. But until then I'll support him.

-Rudey
--And don't people see that R Kelly's songs probably are referring to little girls?

texas*princess 11-19-2003 04:14 PM

:confused: what's going on with R. Kelly?

33girl 11-19-2003 04:18 PM

He put his key in the wroooooong ignition.

Steeltrap 11-19-2003 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
He put his key in the wroooooong ignition.
CTFU. CTFU. CTFU.
ROFLOL.
:D

texas*princess 11-19-2003 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
He put his key in the wroooooong ignition.
:eek: oh no! :o

ZTAngel 11-19-2003 04:26 PM

Kinda gross knowing Bump n' Grind was written for a 13-year-old. http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/puke.gif

Sistermadly 11-19-2003 04:46 PM

BWAHAHAHAH @ 33girl.... :D

breathesgelatin 11-19-2003 06:02 PM

The R Kelly lowdown:

He has been under investigation for a while.

First off, he married Aaliyah back in the day. It was only for like a few days, or a week, or something but at that point she was like 14.

Then there is a video that has surfaced of him having sex with a 13 year old girl. It is kinky and disgusting from what I understand. There have been other accusations as well.

He's nasty. :mad:

decadence 11-19-2003 06:05 PM

Absence of any evidence so far as I know
 
Regarding the early 1990s unfortunate allegations, everyone should read this GQ magazine article - from some years ago. Well written from a prestigious magazine:
http://bluemasklover.i8.com/Michael/GQarticle.html

(same article also on other sites just search for +"michael jackson" +GQ in Yahoo to find if that link causes problems).

I currently believe Michael is eccentric, possesses star quality, is the product of an upbringing difficult for any child and, is NOT a child molester.

ThetaGrrl 11-19-2003 06:10 PM

Re: Re: Re: CRAP
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
What's worse is that Americans continue to give Kelly their vote of confidence by continuing to buy his music. They're directly supporting his lifestyle by giving him their money.
so, everyone should download his music!

*take it like that, R. Kelly and the RIAA*

MuAZD 11-19-2003 08:27 PM

My thoughts on the Michael Jackson case (Note:I'm not saying that he's guilty.)

He has stated that he sleeps in the same bed with young children that are unrelated to him. Why would he, after being accused of sexual molestation previously, continue to do this sort of thing? Doesn't he realize that most people think this conduct is unacceptable and that concerns would be raised yet again? And what kind of parent would allow their child to sleep in the same bed alone with an adult male, let alone someone who has been accused of sexual molestation? (eventhough he was never charged)

Granted, he is an amazing artist, but man this guy is off his rocker.

MereMere21 11-20-2003 04:41 PM

He just surrendered to the police

AlphaGam1019 11-20-2003 05:07 PM

Jermaine Jackson just said F*CK on CNN

"I am SICK AND F*CKING TIRED OF PEOPLE SAYING THESE THINGS ABOUT MY FAMILY!" -Jermaine Jackson on CNN

heh

1savvydiva 11-20-2003 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaGam1019
Jermaine Jackson just said F*CK on CNN

"I am SICK AND F*CKING TIRED OF PEOPLE SAYING THESE THINGS ABOUT MY FAMILY!" -Jermaine Jackson on CNN

heh

LMAO!!!! :D

MuAZD 11-20-2003 11:05 PM

MJs mugshot
 
http://www.sbsheriff.org/jpg/pio/11200301.jpg

(cowering away from the scary wooden man):eek:

bethany1982 11-21-2003 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MuAZD
My thoughts on the Michael Jackson case (Note:I'm not saying that he's guilty.)

He has stated that he sleeps in the same bed with young children that are unrelated to him. Why would he, after being accused of sexual molestation previously, continue to do this sort of thing? Doesn't he realize that most people think this conduct is unacceptable and that concerns would be raised yet again? And what kind of parent would allow their child to sleep in the same bed alone with an adult male, let alone someone who has been accused of sexual molestation? (eventhough he was never charged)

Granted, he is an amazing artist, but man this guy is off his rocker.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Is he really so naive as to think that he can sleep with kids who are not related to him and not have anyone say anything about it. At this point, I feel sorry for him and I really hope he is not guilty. He is either naive, sick, or stupid, or possibly a combination of the three.

valkyrie 11-21-2003 06:02 AM

Wow with the Kobe Bryant and R Kelly talk. I know Kobe hasn't been convicted of anything and I'm pretty sure R Kelly hasn't either. So much for innocent until proven guilty...

Yeah, I guess I'll always be a defense attorney at heart... ;)

breathesgelatin 11-21-2003 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
Wow with the Kobe Bryant and R Kelly talk. I know Kobe hasn't been convicted of anything and I'm pretty sure R Kelly hasn't either. So much for innocent until proven guilty...

Yeah, I guess I'll always be a defense attorney at heart... ;)

Well, there is a video of R Kelly having sex with teenage girls that NUMEROUS people have seen. Also a wedding license for him and Aaliyah that lies about her age.

That's enough for me. He's pretty certifiably a creep, if not a convicted criminal. :)

I doubt Kobe will be convicted. R Kelly might be because there is a video.

In general, I think the justice system is pretty corrupt when it comes to celebrities/rich people. Not on purpose but it just works out that way.

Here's hoping they get Michael.

dzrose93 11-21-2003 11:40 AM

The only thing that shocked me about this Michael Jackson thing is that it didn't happen sooner.

The man is a certifiable freak, and I honestly don't see how any parents would let their child near him. "Never never go to Neverland Ranch"... that would be my motto as a parent.

I hope they throw the book at him (of course that might snap off what's left of his nose).

33girl 11-21-2003 11:48 AM

OK, I can't get past the fact that Michael is 5'11" and weighs 120 pounds!!!!! He has to look like C. Montgomery Burns when he gets naked.


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