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Police arrest fraternity president

If you are an officer of a chapter, you maybe criminally liable for your chapter's action.

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Police arrest fraternity president
By Domingo Ramirez Jr.
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

DENTON - Michael Ramsey began the night of Oct. 11 in a Sigma Alpha Epsilon ritual called Big Brother Night, in which he and other pledges were instructed to consume a keg of beer in an hour.

Ramsey, 18, wound up unconscious near a trash can on Oak Street, wearing pink panties and a Denton Ryan High School Raider drill team outfit.

The episode, outlined in the affidavits released Wednesday by University of North Texas police, led to arrest warrants issued Monday for six members of the fraternity. All are accused of providing alcohol to a minor on Oct. 11.

The fraternity chapter's president, Korey Joe Stamp, 21, walked into the UNT police station about 6 a.m. Wednesday. Stamp, of Carrollton, was in the Denton County Jail on Wednesday on suspicion of furnishing alcohol to a minor, a Class A misdemeanor.

Stamp was expected to be released on $500 bail about 10 p.m. Tuesday.

The other five fraternity members, who also were officers in the fraternity, are expected to surrender, university police said.

The incident prompted the university and the national fraternity to suspend the UNT chapter.

Ramsey, of Grapevine, could not be reached Wednesday for comment.

The affidavits gave this account of the case:

Ramsey and other pledges were told to arrive at the fraternity house about 9 a.m. Oct. 11. The pledges were divided into groups and escorted to the home of a fraternity member, where they were ordered to drink.

Hours later, Ramsey was taken to the apartment of an unidentified woman after he became "very intoxicated." At the apartment, he was made to put on the panties and the drill team outfit.

UNT police Sgt. Laurie Crain found Ramsey unconscious about 1 a.m. Oct. 12 in the 1700 block of Oak Street.

Ramsey was taken to Denton Community Hospital, where he was treated and released.

Ramsey told UNT police that he could not remember how he ended up near the trash can. His blood alcohol level was 0.291. The legal limit in Texas is 0.08.

After being treated at the Denton hospital, Ramsey was arrested on suspicion of public intoxication.

Stamp and the other five fraternity members told police that they were aware that alcohol was made available to pledges and that the pledges were under the legal age, according to the affidavits.

If convicted, each of the six faces a maximum of one year in jail and a $4,000 fine.

No additional charges are expected, said Deputy Chief Ed Reynolds of the UNT police.

The students are also under administrative investigation by the university, UNT police said. University officials said they could not discuss their investigation.

Generally, any student found to have violated conduct policies could receive a written warning or be expelled.

Sigma Alpha Epsilon is the sixth UNT fraternity suspended in connection with drinking or hazing incidents since April 2000.

The others are Alpha Phi Alpha, Sigma Lambda Beta, Lambda Chi Alpha, the Kappa Alpha Order and Theta Chi, university officials said.

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moe_ron got that to!!!

Just should go to show, times are getting very tuff on things that are done in fun and can turn dangerous.

Risk Management it is a Prime Thing For ALL Greek Orgs!

Use Head, that is why it is there!:)

Chapter officers, advisors, (inter)national officers, even parents have been sued or charged.

Wake up!

Breaking the law isn't worth it.

Now, My Question, with all of the Crap that is going down, When Do They Learn?????:confused:

I know, that I/We have been preaching this for years not only as a International Fraterntiy but one on a Local Campus, " DO NOT DO THIS"!

Then as bad as I hate to admit it, One of our Best Chapters did this!:(

It has been on GC and I am embarreshed about it along with more than one!:(

Which part of breaking the law Delta Alum? Underage people get alcohol in conjunction with fraternity/sorority events as a matter of routine.

In fact underage people get alcohol all the time.

What was really idiotic here is the context. Having pledges ordered to drink until a container is gone or they are intoxicated beyon recognition.

And then not to have some mechanism in place to take care of people is really stupid.

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Chapter officers, advisors, (inter)national officers, even parents have been sued or charged.

Wake up!

Breaking the law isn't worth it.

Any part.

It is illegal to provide alcoholic beverages to people under the age of twenty-one.

If you do that, you've broken the law.

If you break the law, you can get arrested.

If, heaven forbid, one of those folks you've supplied alcohol to is hurt or killed, you can not only get arrested, you can get sued.

I'm not going to take that chance. Why would anyone else who understands the possible outcome?

That it's has happened that way for years doesn't matter. Times have changed.

That's not good, but it's a fact.

Breaking the law by having the chapter provide booze to under-age drinkers, what happened next compounded the issue. All in all these guys took a stupid idea and managed to make it worse.

1. Ordering pledges to drink is hazing which equals assault under the law in some states (and all of Canada).

2. They provided the booze as a chapter, to the under-age drinkers; which not only again was illegal, but then made the chapter legally liable.

3. Dumping the pledges in a state of extreme intoxication shows a reckless disregard for the pledge's safety and health; legal violation number three.

I don't know why people just can't play by the rules. I wasn't hazed when I was a pledge and I am not going to haze anyone esle. Chapters are being shut down every where and it's a discgrace. There are so many people who don't approve of sororities and fraternities and now we give them a reason too. :(

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Originally posted by Zetagymnast
I don't know why people just can't play by the rules. I wasn't hazed when I was a pledge and I am not going to haze anyone esle. Chapters are being shut down every where and it's a discgrace. There are so many people who don't approve of sororities and fraternities and now we give them a reason too. :(

I personally hope that within the next 10 years stuff like this stops. However, I know that's not the case. College kids will always do stupid things.

What may be able to be changed is our organizations' tendencies to ritualize this type of behavior.

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Originally posted by ktsnake
I personally hope that within the next 10 years stuff like this stops.

I sincerely hope that we have ten years to spare. To the many fraternities who have found it necessary to mutually self-insure, the money pool won't last that long at this rate.

Without the option for liability insurance, they will fold.

College "KIDs" Kids being the defenitive word is more truth than some may realize.

We try to look at them as Young Adults, but consider, this is the first time away from parental control.

Hey, I am a Young Adult, I can now make my own decisions! Do they make the right ones?:confused:

We on GC have seen so many things happen and they will persist in happening.:( Can I say The Nature of The Beast!

Yep, DA, it could be the demise of Greeks as We Know Them!:eek:

Re: Re: Re: hazing

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I sincerely hope that we have ten years to spare. To the many fraternities who have found it necessary to mutually self-insure, the money pool won't last that long at this rate.

Without the option for liability insurance, they will fold.

What do you mean by mutually self-insure? As in all the members of the FIPG? How badly do other groups get screwed if one fraternity can't control its chapters?

-Rudey

The pool of dollars provided by the members of the group is much smaller than the assets of an insurance company. That pool is accessed when a claim is brought against any member. A relative few large settlements against members could bankrupt the consortium and, conceivably, the weaker members as well.

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
The pool of dollars provided by the members of the group is much smaller than the assets of an insurance company. That pool is accessed when a claim is brought against any member. A relative few large settlements against members could bankrupt the consortium and, conceivably, the weaker members as well.

I guess I'm not completely clear on this because there's something I don't completely understand. Are you saying that FIPG is a communal bank pool and that if there's 10 million in there and ABC does something bad to get sued for 10 million then the pool is gone and the other fraternities lose their insurance? Or are you saying that fraternities getting sued can lead to a higher rate for other fraternities by insurance companies just like there was a spike after 9/11?

-Rudey

All the insurance deals are different, but I assume that they are buying liability insurance with a high deductible (like $10 mil).

If some claimant gets over $10 mil, the fraternal group pays their $10 mil, and hopes the addl. liability ins. kicks in with the rest.

Aside from the seriousness of the issue, and it is very much so, does anyone else find it even mildly amusing that he was in pink panties and a drill team outfit?

I respectfully refuse to answer.

The Greeks at my school have be banned due to hazing and other out of control activites. We have been trying so hard to become an organization on our campus but the school is not working with us. They want us to drop our greek letters. That's crazy. They are putting so many restrictions on us. It's not even our fault, we don't haze and we are being punished because other greeks on our campus do.

When will they learn.

can someone please tell me how to get my letters in my signature

funny but not haha funny

I go to UNT and if you want to here a funny story you should have heard what was said about the incident when campus rumor started spreading. Thank god the story broke in the paper because it was getting to the point of SAE's being Devil Worshipers(just kidding) and the pledge "soiled himself" and that there were actually sororities hazing the pledges........funny but not haha. I knew some guys that were going to dress up in a dress with blackeyes and booze all over them for halloween with SAE letters on the front, but I think that some people might have taken that the wrong way..........

Anyways, I think that house that SAE's were in is cursed. Theta Chi lived there and they got kicked off for stupid things and now SAE. It would be only natural to think that ATO will but the house since this is their first year on our campus and it would be a good opportunity for them and if they do get the house and do someyhing stupid, then it will be offical, That house is cursed

In ZAX,
Chopper1283

Bro, if that is the Case,

"Burning Down the House"!

Revenge o The Nerds!h:D

At least the COPS just came in and confiscated all of the Shit in Animal House!:D

Welcome to GC it is a Hoot!:cool: