LSU starts to crack down on greeks
 

Here is a link to an article about some recent happenings at LSU.

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/...azing001.shtml

I hope that these issues can be worked out for all the orgs. I hate to hear of anyone in trouble with the university.

Stacey

I've heard of some things going on amongst the BGLOs at LSU. It's utterly ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Hmm. I'll have to ask my cousins about it during Thanksgiving-conversation turned to Greek life last year, so it probably will this year...and they're both at LSU.

Is this Lamdba Chi as in LXA? The article was a little unclear on that.

Pretty sure it is LXA.

According to the article on the link, about half of LSU's fraternities are on suspension or probation.

Doesn't sound like a Greek Friendly aministration, does it?

I don't think it's the administration so much as the Greek culture there. At many schools, it's not out of the ordinary for half (or more) of the fraternities to be swamped in risk management violations. The only difference is that LSU seems to be legitimately cracking down on them instead of letting things slide as most administrations do, which will obviously help the Greek system get healthier in the long run.

The administration is actually extremely pro Greek. Each staff member in the Greek Affairs office is a GLO member. As sugar and spice observed, the administration is simply trying to crack down and make the Greek system at LSU better, therefore improving the overall image so that non-GLO's can finally see what we are really about.

Isn't JAM's son a member of Lambda Chi there?

DeltaAlum called me at my shop just befor I left the store to ask about seeing this. Thanks Tom!

justamoms son Associated with the Upsilon Chapter at LSU this fall.

I was very pleased to say the least, but now, I am very embarresed!:(

It sounds like that if the School is Pro Greek, then the problem lies with the Greek Organizations in the wake of so many Chapters being placed on probation.

If this action is true, then it is totally uncalled for, PERIOD!:mad:

justamom, my apologies to you for this happening.:( :o

Thanks. That's good to know. I strongly endorse that kind of situation -- it ends up being better for all of us in the end.

I just hate it when an administration takes a hard line because of anit-Greek feelings.

I know that this is going to sound funny, but I wish that my school would crack down. I cannot tell you how many times I have had to answer questions about hazing and how bad it gets on at this school sometimes. It really hurts the Greeks on this campus and the school does nothing, becuase it could care less. Until something heavy happens, which it is going to, then <i>all</i> greeks are going to get it at SF State.

Pi Kap, cant or wont the Greek Governing Boards do anything about what I am perceiving as detrimental?

If they wont and as you said, there is going to be a major situation there sometime soon!:(

Then, all Hell will break loose and each and everyone will pay for it!:(

My sentiments exactly, justamom. Please know that this is NOT what LXA should be or is about at all.

Isn't LSU where the hazing death at SAE occurred a few years back?

It's distressing to see this happening in a chapter that was recently so highly recognized at LSU. I hope the chapter can realign itself with the fraternity's core values and eliminate the hazing.

With nine fraternity chapters at LSU on varying kinds of probation, it does appear that -- as JustaMom and others have posted -- there's something substantially twisted in the campus's fraternity culture.

Sugar and spice's point -- that on many campuses lots of fraternities are "swamped" with risk management problems -- is well taken, though it doesn't bode well for Greek life in general. Hope LSU can lead in raising awareness and improving the situation.

On a completely cynical note, for those of us who believe that "Dilbert" is dead-on accurate about organizational life . . . maybe most of the members who had new members do their homework (as the Associated Press story reports) plan to go into management, where ordering others to do your work is SOP for those too dumb or too lazy to do it themselves.

don't slam LXA
 

Hey- I didn't want to slam on Lamba Chi. They are a great group of guys. I dated one in my college days. Honestly, I thought the comment that 9 chapters are currently on probation was interesting.

LSU greeks have always had issues on and off. Cheap booze and 18 year olds is always a volitle mixture!

It will be interesting how LSU's party culture is going to be contained. I'm just glad I got to enjoy it during the early 80's when it was in it's rowdy glory!

Stacey

here's a link to an article in the school paper

http://www.lsureveille.com/vnews/dis.../3fa8a9e5ecd9c

apparently, dg is under hazing investigations too. they haven't gotten too specific about this yet, but i was REALLY surprised. i've never heard of hazing going around in the sororities here at lsu!

lsu is definitely cracking down on greek violations. SAE was kicked off several years ago in a nationally publicized case, delta chi got kicked off last year, and DKE was suspended for 2 years...but i think that was by their national hq and not the school...a lot of groups are on "probation", but that's really just a warning and not anything major. of course, it's not good...but the groups are really trying to get their stuff together.

speaking of justamom, where HAS she been?!

Hello! Things are not as bleak as they seem. The LXs are on probation. They can't have alcohol in their house till 2005. To my son and many others, this is a reasonable punishment. I am PLEASED they made this decision. There are probably other social restrictions on them as well, but nothing that will keep them from functioning. AS FAR AS I KNOW!
At least, that's to THIS point in time. If anything more is discovered, who knows.
When I read the violations, most were so childish. A few-like having the pledges do their homework or alcohol in the house-bothered me more than drinking syrup. However, someone could vomit their socks off drinking syrup.

My son is more than pleased with his association. I am under the impression that the hazing did not involve the entire fraternity. Though he is "quiet" about some of the happenings, he was not hazed to the degree the article implies. Nothing short of expulsion could keep him from initiation. He loves LXA and looks forward to the day he will be able to call each young man his brother.

DG- I spoke to my daughter. It is not my place to say what all is involved however, SOME of the "hazing" SHE is aware of stems from a NI who was upset because they "made" them dress up when they wore their pledge pin-forced them to cross their legs when seated on the balcony-said they turned off the air conditioner (the actives were in the room too and the air just couldn't get it cooled) she also said this person complained they used UV lights on her. This one has her stumped. Her final comment was humorous...and unprintable!:p I'm sure Ames knows more than I do. Mine may not know everything since she
has so many outside activity.

Other Fraternities and sororities-yep lots of investigations going on. KA is in the limelight too. THEIR hazing incident is not public knowledge yet, so I will not discuss the allegation.

This is all on the heels of the Acacia and SN (non-fraternity function related) deaths. Plus the young man's, who was not, death. LSU would be derelict if they didn't show some action towards the student body in general and more specifically the Greeks.

My personal opinion is-They ALL better get their act together and realize that all it takes is one accident, one disgruntled member,
one too many reports and they are history...

Disciplinary Action Taken with Fraternities/Sororties in 2003

Violation and probation periods are listed below. Provided there are no further violations and all terms of the probation are met, an organization's probation will be lifted.

Phi Kappa Psi (alcohol)
2/13/2003 through 9/30/2003

Sigma Phi Epsilon (alcohol)
5/6/2003 through 5/5/2006

Lambda Chi Alpha (fighting, alcohol)
5/9/2003 through 5/8/2004

Delta Kappa Epsilon (repeated alcohol, assault, hazing)
Removed from campus until May 2005

Sigma Nu (alcohol, alcohol related fundraising/unregistered, fighting/vandalism, forging an event registration form)
5/7/2003 through 5/6/2004

Acacia (unregistered social event, harassment/vandalism of another fraternity)
5/20/2003 through 5/19/2004

Delta Chi (physically violent hazing)
Removed from campus until January 2005

Kappa Alpha (hazing, fighting, unregistered event)
8/22/2003 through 5/13/2004

Delta Sigma Theta (assault)
6/5/2003 through 6/6/2004

2002 Report
Disciplinary Action Taken with Fraternities/Sororties in 2002

Violation and probation periods are listed below. Provided there are no further violations and all terms of the probation are met, an organization's probation will be lifted.

Acacia (hazing)
3/15/2002 through 1/31/2003

Tau Kappa Epsilon (alcohol)
6/4/2002 through the end of theFall 2002 semester

Pi Kappa Alpha (alcohol) 11/16/2002 through 11/15/2003. Extended through May 2003.

Sigma Chi (hazing)
3/15/2002 through 1/31/2003

Phi Gamma Delta (hazing)
3/22/2002 through 3/33/2003

Pi Kappa Phi (illegal entry, hazing, alcohol)
10/18/2002 through 10/17/2003

It sounds like a school trying to make the whole system better -- as some have written above.

If the chapters involved take this seriously, this could be the best thing that could happen to them.

Tom and LXA: No reason to beat yourselves up over this. "Stuff Happens."

JAM, I'm sure, will keep us informed on the PROGRESS that the chapter is making!

This could turn into something really positive for the Greek System.

JAM, it was really good to hear from you on this issue! I'm glad to see that the school is actually doing something about this - there's so many schools in Wisconsin where completely blatant hazing goes on and the school just looks the other way.

very good to hear from you, JAM, and i agree with you that things here are not "bleak" for any of the fraternities and sororities!

LXA and DG, as well as KA, are all VERY strong chapters with lots of very outstanding members. in fact, a DG was just made homecoming queen! i've heard rumors about stuff that may or may not go in in KA Order, but even they have great reputations on campus. the "violations" and subsequent probations are really not as major as they might seem...it's just true that LSU is trying to make sure our greek life system is the cream of the crop :)

DeltaAlum, thanks for the Good Words about Shawn and myself!

As you well know from our discussions out side of GC, We all think alike and do care and worry.

I hope we personafy what Greek Life Truely should and can be!

But yet, when you get a bunch of oldsters together, I guess they dont think that we know anything!:(

JWOW, I LOVE YA SWEETY!:)

LXA at LSU, Upsilon Chapter in case no one has seen it has been sanctioned. They are placed on probation but not strictest probation.

Sometimes it is hard when so many Fraternitys/Soroitys are in Problems a a certain school that one would think, that they would not do a Stupid act such as this.

This puts us all, Alums of the International, Actives of The Chapter, Alums and Memebers of the Fraternity, The School, Members of All Greek Organizations, and everyone who is interested in bashing Greeks in a below total Animal House average of College students. Oh, let alone wht parents read and go WHAT, I am spending my money for this crap!:mad:

What is Sad, is that this comes on the heels of winning the Highest Award that the Un. has for a Greek Organization!:(