What is Total for your GLO's?
 

I am currently advising a Chapter that does not have a Total or Quota system in place at their school. This is allowing some Chapters to become massive while others continually shrink. I am trying to find out the pro’s and con’s of Total/ Quota systems and ideas on how to set one up. I am also trying to find out what the norm for Total is.

Name of the School:
Approx. Student population:
Number of GLO’s:
Total:

:D Any input would be appreciated. :D

Name of the School: University of Arizona
Approx. Student population: 35,000
Number of GLO’s: 12 NPC
Total: 130

ETA: No other group is subject to a total system.

My alma mater....

Middle Tennessee State University
20,000 students
7 NPC sororities, 13 IFC fraternities, 8 NPHC organizations, 1 local sorority
NPC total is 80, but I don't know what the other totals are.
7-9% of campus is Greek


My grad school....
Vanderbilt University
6300 students
10 NPC sororities, 1 Latin sorority, 14 IFC fraternities, 1 Latin fraternity, 6 NPHC organizations
I don't what total is, but the average sorority is 171 members and the average fraternity is 70 members.
42% of campus is Greek

Name of the School: Auburn University
Approx. Student population: approx 23,000
Number of GLO’s: 16 NPC sororities
Total: 191

Name of the School: San Fran State U.
Approx. Student population: approx 23,000
Number of GLO’s: 35 GLO's 3 NPC sororities, 3 IFC Fraternities
Total: Total for NPC sororities is 45.

Name of the School: University of Texas Dallas
Approx. Student population: 7800
Number of GLO’s: 2 NPC
Total: 50

Both groups are close to equal in size.

Name of the School: University of Michigan-Flint
Approx. Student population: 6500
Number of GLO’s: 2 NPC, 1 IFC, 1 local fraternity, 1 local sorority, 3 NPHC
Total: I believe that total is 30 or 35

I am not sure of this year's numbers but I think these were last year's. sherbertlemons may have the figures from this year.

Name of school: University of Central Florida
Student population: 35,000
Number of GLO's: 10 NPC
9 NPHC
19 IFC
3 DGC
NPC Total: I think it's 130 but I'm not positive

Northern Arizona University
School Population: is around 13,000.
Number of GLO's:We have 7 NPC,
12 IFC,
1 NHPC (recognized by University, but is inactive)
2 Latin Sororities
1 Latin Frat.

Size of a sorority is about 40 memebers give or take a few.(I'm not really that sure since mine is a small group).

Size of a Fraternity is about the same as the sororities.

NO HOUSES ON CAMPUS. DX is the only frat with a house(OFF Campus). :)

ZTAngel,

What's a DGC ???????? I'm new to the whole Greek system so I don't know all the little initials or lingo.

Diversified Greek Council. Lambda Theta Alpha, Mu Sigma Upsilon, and Sigma Lambda Gamma are a part of it.

Name of the School: Millersville University of Pennsylvania
Approx. Student population: 7,800
Number of GLO’s: 6 NPC, 6 IFC 2 local sororities, 1 local fraternity, 7 NPHC
Total: 45

I think total is set only for NPC sororities and the 2 locals. Only about 5% of the school is greek, so all but one sorority is way under total.

MIT:

Student population is about 5,000 undergrad.
GLOs: 5 NPC, 25 IFC, 3 NPHC, 6 independent living groups (see below)
NPC total: 80
NPC quota: Historically has been around 30. This past year they went to deferred sorority recruitment, and quota was (I think) 21.

(Independent living groups are sort of like local fraternities. One is all-female, the others are coed. They have their own governing council equivalent to IFC and Panhel, and their own rush, which happens in the fall at the same time as fraternity rush.)

Hmmm. That number for total is way off from what I've been told. My understanding was that total was 105, but that we had grown past that number ages ago. (The average NPC chapter size at UCF is 151.)

Maybe I'm misinformed, though.

Texas Tech University
 

Name of the School: Texas Tech University
Student population: Approx. 29,000
Number of GLOs: 11 NPC sororities
2003 Quota: 52 + additions
Total: 165

Edited enrollment numbers.

Name of the School: Lock Haven Univ. of PA
Approx. Student population: approx. 4,500 students
Number of GLO’s: 4 NPC sororities (Zeta Phi Beta has a colony here, and other NPHC sororities are trying to establish here.) 6 fraternities. (Lambda Chi Alpha was kicked off my campus in 2000.)
Total: 40

About 3% of the student population is Greek.

Name of the School: CSU Stanislaus
Approx. Student population: approx. 7800
Number of GLO’s: 2 NPC, 2 IFC, 2 local fraternities, 6 local sororities, 2 music based GLO's
Total: 35 for the NPC and no one else has a total (yet the NPCs are both only 1 away from total and all the other sororities on campus have an average number of 10 members)

Name of the School: Valparaiso University (NW Indiana)
Approximate Student Population: 3500 undergraduates
Number of GLO's: 7 NPC, 10 IFC, and other service/music/academics organizations that also use Greek Letters
Total: 53 for NPC, I don't believe there is a total for any of the IFC organizations or the other orgs, either

** I've heard about 1/3 of the campus is Greek (that could be off, however....paging ValpoKD! :) )

Name of Current School: Eastern Kentucky University
Approx. Student Population: 19000
# of GLOs: NPC = 8
Chapter Totals: 70 (most are close, but few make and keep total)


Name of Former School: University of Kentucky
Approximately 45000 students
# of NPC GLO's : 13 plus CERES and Phi Sigma Rho
Chapter Totals=When I was there it was set at 150, but has since been increased with increasing recruitment quotas.

Univ. of Toronto
campus pop.- 60,000
sororities- 7 (NPC)
chapter total- 45
frats- 17
only 1 sorority is VERY close to total (actually they are probably at it by now thru COB/COR).

University of Georgia
Students: about 33,000
Chapters: NPC-18, IFC-25 (i think)
npc total: i want to say that we're not really using that system anymore. I know most of our chapters her are a little over 200 people. We've had a resurgence in numbers the last 5 or so years due to increasing #s of girls going though recruitment. I think only about 20% of the school is greek though.

Georgetown College
 

Georgetown College (Private)
about 1500
4 NPC, 5 IFC, 1 Local Brotherhood
100 is total for NPC, quota is around 28 to 32

The pro of total is that a new group or a small group has a fighting chance with the older, more established groups. For example, my chapter is only 4 years old and we are the second in size after fall COB. If we didn't have total, then all the ladies would go one way for the most part (due to age, because all the groups have good reputations) and the rest of us would be struggling in size.

The whole idea is that all the groups should be about the same size and not have to struggle for numbers. So as you can see I am a pro total person. Could someone tell me the cons?

Thank you, GtownGirl98 your explanation helped a lot. I am trying to encourage one of the chapters that I am currently advising to either become contact the NPC to set up a council at their college or to set up a total/ quota system through their local Greek Council and you reply has come the closest to their situation.

Mercer University
Students: approx 3000 undergrad
4 NPC, 8 IFC, and 5 NPHC (AKA comes back to campus in spring I thnk)
NPC total is currently at 75, with all chapters at or above total.
I don't know total for IFC, but their sizes (with new members) range from about 25-about 60 (I think)
Quota for NPC:
Fall 01-36
Fall 02- 27
Fall 03-26
I don't know the percentage of greeks on campus, but it is decent. There is a lot of support for Greek Life.

Lawrence University
1300 students
3 NPC (KKG, KAQ, DG), 5 NIC (SFE, FKT, BQP, FDQ, DTD), plus SAI & FMA
NPC Quota: 10
NPC Total: 50

Currently nobody's at total, nor has anyone been for about seven years. The biggest NPC is at 40 and the smallest is at 16.

Undergrad at Iowa State:

NPC chapters: 13 + 1 other (Phi Beta Chi); NIC chapters: 27; NPHC chapters: 7
Total student population: 23,000
NPC total: 92 (has been for years)
NIC total: none set--chapters range from 90+ to 20
Quota (2003): 20

There are probably 8-9 chapters that are at total or are very close, 3-2 that are under by 10-12 and 1-2 that are under 65 members. We've recently lost one sorority and are on the verge of losing another fraternity. Recruitment numbers have steadily been declining since I graduated, which has quite a few people worried. The increase in off-campus and apartment living combined with budget cuts and changing administration attitudes is seriously affecting the Greek Community.

Name of the School:The University of Mississippi, OLE MISS
Approx. Student population: 12, 000, undergrad, grad, law school, MBA, etc
Number of GLO’s: NPC-9
Total: 150 but I think we are raising it since all of the houses have between 190-220 members. Quota this year was 86. Check out other threads if you are wondering why we don't ask a new sorority on campus....

Re: What is Total for your GLO's?
 

Alma Mater:
Name of the School: Western Carolina University
Approx. Student population: 6,700
Number of GLO’s: 6 NPC, 12 frats and 3 NPHC
Total: 50 or 55 I think

These numbers have recently changed though; the school now has over 7,000 students and one less sorority and 5 less fraternities. The sorority that left did so because they were constantly under total....they would linger around 20 sisters (or even less). The frats that left did because they got kicked out by their nationals or campus administration - it didn't have anything to do with numbers.

The chapter I'm advising:
Name of the School: Wingate University
Approx. Student population: 1,500
Number of GLO’s: 3 NPC, not sure how many frats or NPHC
Total: I think 30, but I'm not sure if they have a total system in place

Name of the school: Roanoke College
Approx. student population: 1900
Number of GLO's: 4 NPC (Alpha Sigma Alpha, Chi Omega, Delta
Gamma, and Phi Mu), 3 IFC (Kappa Alpha,
Pi Kappa Alpha, and Sigma Chi).
Total: 75 for NPC. Quota for formal rush is usually 12-15. The
campus is 24% greek.

Since i see this as way too much of a problem on Northern Arizona University campus I thought I would post on this thread... The numbers stated here before are mostly right... except for one key thing was left out NPC total is 90... currently only 2 sororities are there... the other sororities range around 40 to 50 or less... This has been a problem for a long time, unfortunately the numbers do not seem to ever change. In turn the smaller groups continue to be hurt more and more. The head of greek life though has "justified" the total to everyone multiple times over. I think this turned more into me whinning then anything else so I will stop now...

Here's some more info for you:

Name of the School: Stetson University
Approx. Student population: 2000-2500
Number of GLO’s: 6 sororities, 7 fraternities
Total: for the sororities it's 60, I'm not sure what it is for the fraternities but it's close to that number, but not more I don't think.

Name of the School: University of North Texas
Approximate Student Population: 32000
Number of GLO's: 6 NPC, 7 IFC, + NPHC & MCGLOs
NPC Total: 75

ETA: Our school is a MAJOR commuter school, and has an anti-greek sentiment to a certain extent (I believe this is largely because of the way the school newspaper portrays greeks, but that's an entirely different post!). Our Panhellenic Council is hoping that recruitment numbers will begin to increase because we are all excited about the new Sorority Row that will be finished being built by this August just in time for recruitment! :)

Name of School: Jacksonville State University
Approximate Number of Students: 9,000
Number of NPC's: 5
Total: 65

I don't have percentages or anything, but I can say that Greek life and other student organizations are not very popular here. We have a very apathetic campus.

I thought there were 13 NPC sororities, and then I thought maybe I can't count. So I listed all of em: Kappa Kappa Gamma, Alpha Chi Omega, Kappa Alpha Theta, Pi Beta Phi, Delta Delta Delta, Delta Zeta, Gamma Phi Beta, Alpha Delta Pi, Sigma Kappa, Alpha Omicron Pi, Chi Omega, Kappa Delta, Alpha Gamma Delta

And the current Greek Adviser is both an ISU and Greek alumna. I agree that the increase in other housing options, budget cuts and the admin attitude isn't really helping. The number of women going through formal is dropping drastically, I have the numbers at home, but it's been something like a 20% decline in the past 2 -3 years. Hopefully the Greek Alumni Alliance that has been established will be able to help in some way. BTW, the VP of the organization is a Kappa alum!

Name of School: College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, VA)
Student Population: 5,000
Percent of students in Greek system: around 25%
NPC sororities: 10
NIC fraternities: between 13-15 (that's a whole other conversation right there)
Sorority House Total: 95
Quota (2003): 23

8 of the sororities hover right around 95 - only five members separate the largest from the eighth largest. The other two sororites have about 60 or 70 girls - their numbers fluctuate more, because they COB large classes on a regular basis, while the rest usually only have spots to COB one or two.

I had no idea that total was so wildly different from the actual membership within the organizations at most schools. We've been arguing recently over whether or not to raise total - the four consistently largest sororities want to, the two smaller sororities don't want to, and the rest of the sororities recognize that they could easily fall into either category after either a couple good years or a couple bad years. So instead, we make up new formulas for setting quotas and release figures every year. Because it wasn't complicated enough. :rolleyes:

Name of the School: Hillsdale College
Approx. Student population: 1,200-ish
Number of GLO’s:
- Four NPC groups (will drop to three next year)
- Three IFC fraternities
(we're a little school!)

Total: Well, for some reason, we call it "cap", but it's 80 for the girls.... I don't believe the guys have a total, but perhaps they do. Although we are losing one of our houses at the end of this year, they are not raising cap. We and another group are very near cap, and house #3 is not far behind.

You are correct. I mistyped. I'm a little out of the loop on campus affairs now that I'm 100 miles away, I heard from someone--who I should know better than to hold as accountable--that the GA wasn't Greek :rolleyes: but since I entered that info last fall I've heard she's doing a great job. When I was on Panhel the number of girls going through recruitment was just over 400, it's declined anywhere from 40-50 girls per year since then. Is it Chelon? I know she's been really involved in campus and Greek affairs lately.

Name of the School: The Richard Stockton College of New Jersey

Approx. Student population: 6,883 full- and part-time students

Number of GLO’s: between 18-22
NPC- 5:
National Fraternities (there is no IFC on campus)- 6; there is 7 if you count an org who got kicked off awhile ago, but still manage to have healthy numbers)
Minority/NPHC: 9, or 10, or 8. Honestly, we lose and gain them like nothing.

Total: no one has total besides NPC, we are at 55. i'm gonna estimate the frats have between 25-35 people; all the minority/nphc have 5 or less (and only phi beta sigma is at 5)

Sometimes I feel like I'm outta the loop and I'm on the AB for my house and only live in WDM. :) I think she (GA) has been doing a lot better job, and I think part of the problem might have been the need for more support, plus I think this might be her first job as GA Coordinator (though I'm not sure), whereas Brian T. had been in charge of how many others? I remember those numbers going thru a few years ago. Hopefully things will turn around in the fall. It is Chelon and I think she's been so proactive about things, it's great.
BTW, I think I read somewhere that you advise at Iowa now, just curious but how many women typically go thru formal there?

University of New Orleans
Commuter College with like 15,000 maybe more
NPC groups: 4
Quota: 34