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docetboy 10-08-2003 01:10 AM

Davis Recalled, Arnold Wins Election
 
Gray Davis has been recalled as the Governor of the State of California and has given his concession speech to Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Arnold has won the election by a landslide, and will take office when the election is officially certified, possibly in 28 days.

Current Election results (46% of precints reporting):
YES on Recall: 55%
NO on Recall: 45%

On the field of candidates to replace him:
Schwarzenegger (R): 49%
Bustamante (D): 31%
McClintock (R): 13%
Camejo (G): 2%
Huffington (I): 1%
All others: Less than 1%
IN NINTH PLACE: GARY COLEMAN

On Proposition 54, Racial Privacy Initiative:
YES 43%
NO 56%

On Proposition 53, earmarking 3% of budget to fix state's roads, bridges, and sewage plants:
YES 35%
NO 65%

chideltjen 10-08-2003 01:19 AM

*sings* it's the end of the world as we know it... */sings*

sorry... tho i can't say much cuz i didn't vote. but still... someone is gonna find reason to recall this election and this is gonna go on forever and ever.

docetboy 10-08-2003 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chideltjen
*sings* it's the end of the world as we know it... */sings*

sorry... tho i can't say much cuz i didn't vote. but still... someone is gonna find reason to recall this election and this is gonna go on forever and ever.

In his concession speech, Davis responded to calls of "Recall Arnold" with this (not expressly quoted): This is what the whole circus was about, remember? No recall. Lets put this circus behind us and get this state back on track. I will offer my full support to the transition of office to Schwarzenegger.

Imthachamp 10-08-2003 01:22 AM

eh i didnt get a chance to vote...

i woulda voted for arnold though

honeychile 10-08-2003 01:27 AM

*shakes head*

If we learned anything from the craziness of 2000, you'd think we would have learned that no election is over with only 33% of the precincts reporting.

docetboy 10-08-2003 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
*shakes head*

If we learned anything from the craziness of 2000, you'd think we would have learned that no election is over with only 33% of the precincts reporting.

33% is an awfully large number. You can predict winners with 3% reporting if it is not a close race, and this obviously is not a close race in either department.

Kevin 10-08-2003 01:32 AM

Yup. The margins in those elections were never more than a few thousand. In these cases it's hundreds of thousands.

Hootie 10-08-2003 01:38 AM

First California...Next The White House.... j/k ;)

Unregistered- 10-08-2003 01:38 AM

Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?
 
I think I woulda voted for Gary Coleman.

At least we have peace of mind knowing that Arnie could never be President of the United States!

juniorgrrl 10-08-2003 01:42 AM

Dee Snyder is a republican. I just find that odd.

I guess he and Alice Cooper have a private club of socially conservative shock-rockers.

Uberroth should have stayed in. With a name that has "uber" in it, that's just asking for success

Peaches-n-Cream 10-08-2003 01:43 AM

Re: Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
I think I woulda voted for Gary Coleman.

At least we have peace of mind knowing that Arnie could never be President of the United States!

I was thinking the same thing about the Presidency.

AlphaSigOU 10-08-2003 01:56 AM

Unless they put out an amendment to the Constitution... there's a bill in Congress calling for an amendment to allow foreign-born US citizens to be eligible for the presidency if they have lived in the US at least 20 years.

docetboy 10-08-2003 02:12 AM

http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/re...1007224918.gif

Explanation: "Yes" and "No" are each identified with a color/pattern combination (see legend).
The color/pattern combination in each county indicates whether the majority of voters in that county voted "Yes" or "No".

The number in each county indicates the percentage by which the majority of voters voted "Yes" or "No" in that county.
http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov/Returns/recall/mapN4.htm

bethany1982 10-08-2003 02:18 AM

California wins!

docetboy 10-08-2003 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bethany1982
California wins!
LOL!!!! :)

phikappapsiman 10-08-2003 02:52 AM

Congratulations Arnold...however...

WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM???

If Governor Arnold repeals the car tax fee, as he said he would, where is he going to come up with the funds to balance the budget? Also, if he is so pro-education, as he says he is, is he going to reduce the fee hikes for the UC and CSU school systems?

And remember, he is dealing with a Democratic state House and Senate, and if Californians think that the last budget impasse was bad, just wait until Arnold tries to pass a new budget!

And isn't it ironic that Gray Davis signed into law allowing undocumented residents (I really hate the term "illegal aliens") the ability to get driver's licenses, and most Hispanics voted to recall him! Way to know your voter base Gray!

But of course the Bay Area counties are the only ones in the state to vote against the recall-not only are we not able to put a championship pro football or baseball team on the field, we also vote to keep Gray! I think that it was still the shock of both the A's and Giants losing!!!
:D

Optimist Prime 10-08-2003 03:02 AM

For real, do not get rid of car tax. They did this to Virginia and the next govenor had to cut everything else. If you don't like tax, cut the food tax. Everybody needs to eat. Not everybody has three + fancy cars to drive around.

no car tax=no higher education. California, please don't make the same mistake as Virginia.

lifesaver 10-08-2003 04:25 AM

Did anyone else want to slaf the crap out of that woman standing behind Arnold during his victory speech? She had the dark hair and kept waving into the camera? You could only see about 6 peopel when they were close in, and she was one of them. She serioulsy couldnt be a Shriver. They have more class than that. If anyone is used to being on tv its the kennedy/shriver clan.

I just think its so tacky when peeps wave into the camera. Its ususally the same people who stop celebs and ask for autographs. I dont need a sig to prove I have met soemone. My word is good enough. Message to them: I give you a dollar. Go buy some class.

LeslieAGD 10-08-2003 06:50 AM

What is the world coming to? :p

mmcat 10-08-2003 07:48 AM

now the real work starts...
good luck arnold and california.

Thrillhouse 10-08-2003 08:12 AM

I think it was pretty much known from day one that Arnold would win it. I'm glad this circus is over.

honeychile 10-08-2003 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by docetboy
33% is an awfully large number. You can predict winners with 3% reporting if it is not a close race, and this obviously is not a close race in either department.
My first response is "that's what they said about Florida."

You can predict a winner with 3% of the vote, however, it's just that - a prediction.

I was deeply involved in politics for quite awhile, and would give you my bona fides if you doubt that. I sincerely believe that one of the biggest electionproblems we face is the exit poll and the broadcast of "who won" before everyone has voted. If I ever get back into politics, it will be to fight for a law to ban exit polls and to somehow restrict the broadcast of national election news (or have a uniform voting time). The East Coast often ends up somewhat disenfranchising the West Coast.

I'm really not out to argue this point now, mostly because it was only a state-wide poll, and not a national one. I did want to clarify my earlier post, however.

docetboy 10-08-2003 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
My first response is "that's what they said about Florida."

You can predict a winner with 3% of the vote, however, it's just that - a prediction.

I was deeply involved in politics for quite awhile, and would give you my bona fides if you doubt that. I sincerely believe that one of the biggest electionproblems we face is the exit poll and the broadcast of "who won" before everyone has voted. If I ever get back into politics, it will be to fight for a law to ban exit polls and to somehow restrict the broadcast of national election news (or have a uniform voting time). The East Coast often ends up somewhat disenfranchising the West Coast.

I'm really not out to argue this point now, mostly because it was only a state-wide poll, and not a national one. I did want to clarify my earlier post, however.

I would have to agree with you on this point. In 2000, the network news were predicting winners in the presidential race in Florida before the polls closed in the panhandle of the state. This caused some people ready to go to the polls to decide to stay home thinking the election was over already. As we know, it wasn't. Same thing broadcasting winners of the east coast states hours before the west coast closed up shop.

aephi alum 10-08-2003 09:05 AM

http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...governator.jpg

Things are going to be interesting in "Kaleefornyuh" for a while to come...

MereMere21 10-08-2003 10:45 AM

I hope all the pro-Arnold voters realize that he actually can't change time and save their a**es.

No seriously, only in America. I haven't really followed Arnold's campaign. I stopped watching after he told one of his opponets "I have a part for you in Terminator 4 HAHAHA".

docetboy 10-08-2003 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MereMere21
I hope all the pro-Arnold voters realize that he actually can't change time and save their a**es.

No seriously, only in America. I haven't really followed Arnold's campaign. I stopped watching after he told one of his opponets "I have a part for you in Terminator 4 HAHAHA".

That line was classic :)

It will be very interesting to see if Arnold can turn around Sacramento's 'politics as usual.' He is a great person to try as he is fresh, and on the issues, leans both ways (favors the gay movement, etc.)

bethany1982 10-08-2003 10:58 AM

The new Governor may not be able to stop time, but he can begin the process of starving the tax hungry, regulation heavy monster that has been devouring this state and running off business for the past few years. With over 60% of CA voters voting Republican in this election, perhaps the other major party will get the message that Californians have had enough of their partisan games.

docetboy 10-08-2003 11:22 AM

Election Results with 98.1% of precints reporting:


7th Place: Larry Flint (D) - (15,012)
8th Place: Gary Coleman (I) - (12,443)
10th Place: Mary Cook (I) - (better known as Mary Cary :)) (9,717)
John J. "Jack" Hickey (L): 1,460
Last Place: Todd Richard Lewis (I): 171

wreckingcrew 10-08-2003 11:32 AM

wow,

so i guess from those numbers we can deduce that there are a total of 9,717 porn stars or strippers in CA.

Well, that number seems a little low, maybe they're the only 9700 porn starts and strippers that are smart enough to vote. The other 361,000 will be showing up sometime in February, after they come down of their latest coke binge.

Kitso
KS 361 times i'd like to have seen alec baldwin's face last night :D

texas*princess 10-08-2003 11:42 AM

wow, i'm speechless!

Sistermadly 10-08-2003 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chideltjen
*sings* it's the end of the world as we know it... */sings*

Or better yet:
*sings* "California uber-alles, California uber-alles"

Gimme a budget and watch me hack it !
Gimme a beat and I'll show you how to jack it !
I give the rich a giant tax loophole
I leave the poor living in a poophole
At time when AIDS is in a crisis
I cut health care and I raise prices
Sales tax, snack tax, excise tax
Information attack with a newspaper tax
Hit the pocket books of working families
Increase tuition at the universities
Some day I'll command all o' you
Even your kids are gonna pray to me in school...

Sistermadly 10-08-2003 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hootie
First California...Next The White House.... j/k ;)
'

Thank GOD this isn't possible!

aephi alum 10-08-2003 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly
'

Thank GOD this isn't possible!

You haven't seen "Demolition Man" then? ;)

There's a line in that movie (which is set a few decades from now) about the "Schwarzenegger Presidential Library." In the movie, the Constitution had been amended to allow foreign-born citizens to run for President because of Ahhhnold's popularity as a politician.

And so it begins... :eek:

Sistermadly 10-08-2003 12:09 PM

AEPhi Alum, you're going to make me toss my oatmeal. ;)

damasa 10-08-2003 12:12 PM

OH but come on now people, it's only going to take Arnold a month or two to audit the books!

Where will the money come from?

I don't really feel that Arnold is going to do any good for the state of California.

MereMere21 10-08-2003 12:14 PM

well look at it this way - California can know use Minnesota's old bumper stickers that say "our governer can beat up your governer"

:D

angelic1 10-08-2003 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
For real, do not get rid of car tax. They did this to Virginia and the next govenor had to cut everything else. If you don't like tax, cut the food tax. Everybody needs to eat. Not everybody has three + fancy cars to drive around.

no car tax=no higher education. California, please don't make the same mistake as Virginia.

I just started laughing when I heard that he wanted to do this.. its obvious he hasnt been doing his research to see what happened in VA. When Gilmore was trying to get elected with the slogan "no car tax" I thought people were fools for voting for him. People now see the mistakes and why taxes are neccessary and why CA only needs more at this point.

DeltAlum 10-08-2003 12:42 PM

It generally takes many years (literally) to ratify a Constitutional Amendment, because, unless I remember my civics classes incorrectly, a large majority of the states (3/4?) also have to ratify it.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong on that -- it's been a long time since high school for me.

Arnold will probably be too old to run for President before that can happen.

One thing I simply can't understand is how educated people can look at a state or nation that is already in a budget crisis and deficit spending, and expect to solve it by bringing in LESS money through tax cuts.

I know that the extra discretionary income is supposed to be spent and that bolsters the economy. On paper, that sounds good, but in reality a major tax cut's impact on the average family is in the hundreds of dollars a year. Personally, I'd rather have the government keep the money to spend on schools, roads and healthcare, etc.

How do you feel about rapidly rising tuition and fees because of less federal and state aid?

damasa 10-08-2003 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum


How do you feel about rapidly rising tuition and fees because of less federal and state aid?

And that's what is going to happen next. They did it to the students in Wisconsin and our state budget crisis isn't comparable to California's.

Education will be next, how do all you students in Cali feel about that?

bethany1982 10-08-2003 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by damasa
And that's what is going to happen next. They did it to the students in Wisconsin and our state budget crisis isn't comparable to California's.

Education will be next, how do all you students in Cali feel about that?

The Democrats have already cut education and raised the fees for higher education in recent months, after promising not to touch either in the last election. At the same time, they have proposed giving certain illegal aliens a free ride in CA Community Colleges. Raise rates for some and cut programs for others, but give a free ride to illegals. Only in California. CA has gone from a 30 billion dollar surplus to at least a 10 billion dollar deficit in the past 5 years and it seems the majority of CA voters are ready for a change in management.


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