WMD's Found in Kuwait?
 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99011,00.html

WMD Could Be?
There's a report out of Kuwait that -- if verified -- would mean there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq after all. The Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah, says authorities there foiled a plot to smuggle $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq into Europe. The report says suspects have been taken into custody, and the weapons themselves will be handed over to the FBI. However, the report does not say when that will take place, nor does it say exactly when or how the plot was foiled.

So, possible Iraqi WMDs are found in Kuwait. If this is verified, what do some of you anti-Bush types think about that?

Will that justify the war in your eyes? I mean, it stands to reason that if this is found to be true, there quite possibly could have been a lot more weapons smuggled out that we haven't found.

If verified, I feel mine and others unwavering support of W and his war are justified.

Kitso
KS 361

The only thing I could say would be......

How CONVENIENT :rolleyes:

It would definately help out my opinion if this is proven to be true. I will never be a proponant of war, but it brings the situation into a new light. I'm not a Bush hater, just not crazy about his policies (like I've said before, loved him as Gov here)

I will just go ahead and throw this out there - I think its a little suspicious that these long lost WMD's turn up in US friendly Kuwait territory.

Lol lets see if its true or not first there has been many cases where they supposenly found some and it turned out not to be.

what if they turned up in US friendly Mexico? or US "friendly" France?

Not trying to start something, but just because they were found in Kuwait to me doesn't imply wrongdoing. If anything it shows the Kuwaities(that what you call them?) willingness to help US efforts.

I'll wait and see if this story is verified, but what i was more looking for was a response from the anti-Bush crowd as to whether the finding of WMD's even this late in game, are enough to make them admit they were wrong in opposing the war.

Kitso
KS 361

Re: WMD's Found in Kuwait?
 

Nope.

Even with the war aside, Bush has done other things that I do not agree with.

Fox News.

Enough said.

Actually, Fox News is not the main source on this report. It's the Kuwaiti Al-Sissyah, as well as the Indian paper, the Hindustan Times.

Fox, i believed, merely picked it up and carried it because it knew that the more liberal news publications wouldn't

Kitso
KS 361

I've always been pretty confident that they would either find the WMD's there or evidence of a plot that had them smuggled outside Iraq.

It doesn't take a genius to see what happened... Weapons inspectors left.. Tons upon tons of WMD's failed to be accounted for -- stuff we knew existed. What, do you think Saddam just destroyed it and neglected to document it? I for one don't think he'd be that stupid.

agree-nod-agree-

I was originally against the war- but after seeing the people and hearing from my best friend when he got back- the people over there are so happy that America came over to help them. With or without WMD I was behind the effort to free a nation from a dictator like Saddam. Just being a human I want others to have freedoms that they didn't. Talk to the troops that have come home and I am sure they can tell you, we needed to do something, with the way those people were "living" over there before, it was no real life of value.
I just hope that we can help them get their government started s that they can continue to have a better life.

WAIT A MINUTE.
Why would IRAQI WMDs be in KUWait, a country they invaded???

I smell something fishy, and its not Laura Bush.

Why this made me chuckle, I don't know.... :p

Funniest quote of the week. I give you 5000 points.

well if they found WMD's in Mexico that wouldn't be very believable(sp?) now would it? ;)


like I already said, I'm anti-war. No one would be "wrong" for opposing the war. Besides, Bush has done other things I don't agree with. Liked him as Gov - he should have quit when he was ahead.

Good thread AggieSigmaNu361, but Iraq could have attacked U.S. territory and some would still hate Bush.

just like how some people will hate Clinton forever no matter what

there will never be a president that 100% of the country would like and agree on

The Green M&M. Everyone loves him.

which is why we need to elect Kitso and Arya to come in and run this country oligarchy-like.

Arya for the left-leaners, and Kitso for the right leaners.

It'll be perfect :p

Kitso
KS 361

AHMMM!! You mean "HER", :phttp://global.mms.com/us/fungames/do...ads_header.gif

Wow! Our first woman president!:D

I'd vote for a two-person presidency :D hell I would vote for the green M&M at this point

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It's A Trap

Here's a related article...
 

Kuwait Foils WMD's Being Smuggled Out of Iraq"

Posted by Wade Eyerly
Saturday, October 04, 2003


An article published Wednesday in the Indian newspaper, Hindustan Times, is reporting that the Kuwaiti government has stopped a smuggled shipment of $60 million dollars worth of CHEMICAL weapons and BIOLOGICAL warheads from IRAQ to an un-named European country. Why has no one picked up on this?

In a world so preoccupied with discovering the alleged WMD's that served as a major justification for the war in Iraq, it seems that Rush Limbaugh's comments that the media may have been giving too much credit to a very talented quarterback because he is black have taken over the media.

We have finally found what we've been looking for…some of the very evidence that will vindicate the President George W. Bush from the international and media flogging that he's been taking over the last few months, but…what is on your local news station? A conservative talk show host's verbal flap? Hmmm…So, which side of the fence did you say the media was on?

Kuwaiti operatives had been tailing a number of Iraqis since they entered the nation, but kept their distance, and kept a watchful eye on them--before arresting them. The Associated Press reports that the warheads and weapons will be handed over to the FBI at a news conference whose time is yet to be determined.

Let the vilification of George W. Bush cease. Not only did Saddam have weapons, but they are being smuggled out of country. That could mean only a few things. Those moving the weapons are terrorists, who reportedly ''may have connections inside Kuwait,'' and who continue to advance their plots. That particular plot has just been foiled, all hail be to George W. Bush's anti-terrorism measures, and the international processes now in place for that. Or, the ring is closing around Saddam and it has become clear that he will soon be caught, and he ordered that the weapons be moved from country to avoid their ''discovery'' in a new Iraqi democracy, from which we can believe that the establishment of an Iraqi democracy and the eminent capture of Saddam are not only necessary and justified, but also for the greater good. Hail George W. Bush's willingness to make a decision, and to take action when many in the world doubted the necessity of removing Saddam.

The fact is, Saddam was a terrorist. He was a terrorist with legitimization, because he had positioned himself as the leader of a nation. In doing so, he killed many of his own people. No one is out there saying he's a hero, but many people don't seem to recognize his threat. Hitler was the same, Stalin another--men who reigned by terror, killed whimsically, and who the world would, in fact, have been better off without. How many times have we looked back at the world and thought, what would have happened if Hitler was killed in his youth? How many people could we have back? We will never know how many lives were saved by the actions taken on the day our forces entered Iraq? We can be thankful we'll never know. George W. Bush, you saved lives, limited a threat, and took action when that is what was needed. You are exactly what America needed, and what we want in a president. Keep up the good work.

And of course, after the FBI is through, we could create a monument to decisiveness and leadership, the George W. Bush Monument, and display the weapons that we've come up with. You know, give Jacques Chirac something new to tour on his next visit, with his wife, the one that keeps saying how much she hopes Hillary Clinton becomes president.

http://www.chronwatch.com/featured/c...y.asp?aid=4498

Interesting (at least to me) point.

So what if Iraq had WMD? Israel has them. So does Cananda. So do we. If Iraq is wrong and support throwing out Saddam, because he's a mean dictator, then why not do the same thing in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. That's totally hypocritcal. We can at least act like Ladies and Gentleman, and agree to play by the same set of rules, and not change them like whiney little kids when the game starts to not go our way.

Also, on a side note, Bush fell off a scooter the other day. I have no confidence in him at all anymore. This is worse than that pretzel thing.

Well.. I don't see Israel giving WMD's to groups like Al Qaeda that want to use them on US civilian targets. I believe the Government had reason to believe that Saddamm would.

I thought Bush said there was no known link between Saddam and Bin Laden?

Back to Kitso's question though - I'm taking this latest report as a verification Saddam did have WMD, but to be honest, my biggest problem with Bush's presidency is that he is putting other country's needs above the United States. We still have millions in poverty, we still have one of the highest unemployment rates in history, our roads are falling apart, people are still starving, and our budget defecit worsens by the day. Bush is building a highway in Afghanistan, and re-building Iraq.

also, does anyone know why isn't there more news coverage about this? All I've heard the past two days has been about the California recall. You would think this would be front page stuff.

On another note - I did hear that Turkey would be sending peace-keeping troops to Iraq.

You bring up an interesting question about the lack of media coverage on this story. Perhaps it does not fit their agenda. U.S. Chief Weapons Inspector David Kay was interviewed recently and said that most media outlets are not presenting the whole story. Who knows why...

Horrible analogy because it never happened and as of right now "the threat" of it to take place was never really there. Now if these "so-called WMDs" are real and we find out they did come from Iraq it could be a little different.

It's also very hard to judge what people would feel if we were attacked like that.


Take 9/11 for example, I think that most, if not all of America backed Bush. I say this because our country was attacked an 1,000s of people died. IT had nothing to do with the Democrats or Republicans. It had nothing to do with a Democratic president or a Republican president. It had only to do with America and how the people came together to grieve and support eachother during such a terrible time.

In any event, that's what this great country is about - not having to agree with a president for any reason, you can like him for the sake of not even liking him if you so desire.

The key word here is "SOME." No matter what this President does, some will always hate him. The analogy is fine, and your opinion is respected.

Like I said, it's a bad analogy because it didn't happen. And if it did happen **EDITED** we wouldn't know the extent of a future attack on our country as of right now, therefore we wouldn't be able to measure the support our country would hold for the president at that certain time in the future.

There is no key word in my post ;)

This is no argument and I respect your opinion also.

LOL...

I think that if it's legitimate, we'd be seeing more coverage on it. It would definitely trump the California recall results. Most major news networks would be rushing to print it so that they don't look like idiots after taking everything Bush said at face value at the beginning of the war.

If none of the other major news networks pick this up within a couple days, there's a reason for that, and it's probably that they either don't believe it's important (not likely) or they don't believe it's true.

I agree with that. I would guess (I say that because I obviously have no inside information from CIA, DIA or any other IA), two things:

1) If the networks had credible information from more than one non-political source, they would be all over it.

2) If there is credible information, it isn't being shared with the networks by whomever.

This strikes me as a pure political reaction to falling job ratings.

I actually hope they do find WMD's. It will make me feel a whole lot better about the war, the casualties and the effect on the economy.

Anyone catch Condoleeza Rice's speach about WMD's today? There is concrete evidence at this point that Saddam was concealing programs as well as dual use facilities. They were definitely in breach of the UN resolutions they had agreed to.

This is a paraphrased quote: "If this information had come to light the UN Security Council would have had to authorize the same course of action taken by the US and its allies."

Sure, on one hand it's political spin. On the other, there is quite a bit of substance here.

Ya know, prove it and I'll applaud. (see my last post).

Prior to the war, Colin Powell (a man I greatly admire) went before the UN with "proof" which was later refuted.

The chief inspector said last week that there was no evidence of WMD's or of any connection between Sadam and bin Laden.

I'd like some straight talk and some proof. And I'd like to have it verified or disproven by someone or some organization that is not beholden to either political party.

I agree, DeltAlum. We've seen allegations of "proof" that turned out to be fake way too many times in this investigation for me to believe it just like that. In fact, that is probably the biggest reason why the media is holding off on this story. They've been fooled too many times to just believe whatever the administration says on this subject.

There's only so many times you can cry wolf before people start to ignore you.

First, because she happened to state that there was concrete evidence doesn't make it fact.

Second, you say there is a lot of substance here, where is it? You didn't give us any substance or concrete evidence here. ;)

Oh, I'd love to point you all to a great article which exposes 10 lies the Bush Admin used to get you to support the war. (Rice is quoted as saying the only use of aluminum really is for producing uranium centrifuges. She did say this in a speech that was televised and quess what, it wasn't true=lies!!)

Ten Lies

Thank you Damasa for posting that.

I would like to point out that Clinton lied once and was impeached. Bush lies 10 times that we know of, but its OK. At least when Clinton boinked his intern no one died.

LMBO!!!!! :D :D
Too funny!

Clinton only lied once? When the WMD are found most of the 10 items on that list are out the window. If the Dems, thought they could go after Bush, they would.

Your assuming they will find something. If they haven't now I doubt they ever will unless Bush gets desperate, sneaks over some chemical weapons from the US and says it belongs to the Iraqis.