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moe.ron 10-04-2003 06:02 AM

Roy from "Sigfried & Roy" Attack by Tiger
 
Tiger attacks Vegas magician during "Siegfried & Roy" show
The Associated Press
LAS VEGAS

A tiger attacked magician Roy Horn during a Friday night performance of "Siegfried & Roy" at The Mirage hotel-casino, authorities said.

Firefighters were called about 8:45 p.m. and found Roy had been "attacked at the throat" by a tiger during a performance, said Clark County Fire spokesman Bob Leinbach.

He was taken to University Medical Center. "He's at the hospital alive. What his status is now, I don't know," Leinbach said.

AlphaSigOU 10-04-2003 08:01 AM

He's in critical but stable condition at UMC (University Medical Center) in Vegas. Shows cancelled until further notice.

valkyrie 10-04-2003 11:49 AM

I don't mean to sound rude, but DUH. If I were a tiger I'd attack one of those guys too.

moe.ron 10-04-2003 11:54 AM

I've read that he was slapping the tiger around before the tiger attacked. let see, slapping tiger = tiger attack. Common sense.

bethany1982 10-04-2003 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
I don't mean to sound rude, but DUH. If I were a tiger I'd attack one of those guys too.
LOL! I was thinking the same thing.

adpishan 10-04-2003 03:37 PM

As of the morning news (7:00a.m.)

Roy was disciplining the tiger (taping him on the nose with the microphone and saying NO!) for not performing when the tiger turned on him and bit him in the neck and drug him off-stage. He is in stable, but critical condition.

If I can after work, I will update what is on the news here in Las Vegas.

shultzz 10-04-2003 04:07 PM

He was probably trying to hump the beast.

DeltAlum 10-04-2003 04:10 PM

Those two guys have become almost cliches -- but I saw the show several years ago, and it's pretty entertaining.

On the other hand, there's no way I'd get into a cage with wild animals on a daily basis.

Edited to correct typo.

CatStarESP4 10-04-2003 07:55 PM

I read about the attack in Yahoo. I read that he is in critical condition.

What was he thinking in hitting the tiger! Did he know that it is still a wild animal? I wonder if he had disciplined tigers like this before or this was the first time.


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Optimist Prime 10-04-2003 08:03 PM

Is anyone really surprised? It was a matter of time.

valkyrie 10-04-2003 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
Is anyone really surprised? It was a matter of time.
Exactly. I find it sad that in this day and age, anyone thinks it's appropriate to use wild animals for entertainment.

cash78mere 10-04-2003 08:58 PM

i don't believe in circuses or the nonsense that siegfried and roy do.

while it is unfortunate that he got hurt, what did he expect? this is a wild tiger that is forced to spend his life taking orders, performing in loud and bright conditions and not allowed to live his life.

wild animals should never be allowed as entertainment.

i'm still on the fence about zoos---if an animal is too hurt to ever be released to the wild, then i don't see a problem with keeping it at a zoo or sanctuary, but to take wild animals from the wild and bring them to captivity is just wrong

Rudey 10-04-2003 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cash78mere
i don't believe in circuses or the nonsense that siegfried and roy do.

while it is unfortunate that he got hurt, what did he expect? this is a wild tiger that is forced to spend his life taking orders, performing in loud and bright conditions and not allowed to live his life.

wild animals should never be allowed as entertainment.

i'm still on the fence about zoos---if an animal is too hurt to ever be released to the wild, then i don't see a problem with keeping it at a zoo or sanctuary, but to take wild animals from the wild and bring them to captivity is just wrong

I sense a scary animal activist here people.

-Rudey
--Light anyone wearing a fur coat on fire lately lady? Yeah like 10 minutes ago. Yeah.

DeltaSigStan 10-04-2003 09:09 PM

Ok, fair enough. Let's make a deal, okay?

Solve EVERY human problem. End poverty, end hunger, end war, end murder, end rape. End every single problem that plights us.

Then maybe I'll care about animals......

Senusret I 10-04-2003 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Ok, fair enough. Let's make a deal, okay?

Solve EVERY human problem. End poverty, end hunger, end war, end murder, end rape. End every single problem that plights us.

Then maybe I'll care about animals......

On THAT I strongly agree!!!!!!!!

cash78mere 10-04-2003 09:22 PM

you never stop judging, do you? you always make it try to be funny, but usually it just sounds dumb.

i am not a "scary animal activist" of any kind. i care about animals and think of their welfare. and yes, i probably would throw red paint on a fur wearer if i knew i wouldn't go to jail, which i would, which is why i don't do it.

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
I sense a scary animal activist here people.

-Rudey
--Light anyone wearing a fur coat on fire lately lady? Yeah like 10 minutes ago. Yeah.


Rudey 10-04-2003 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cash78mere
you never stop judging, do you? you always make it try to be funny, but usually it just sounds dumb.

i am not a "scary animal activist" of any kind. i care about animals and think of their welfare. and yes, i probably would throw red paint on a fur wearer if i knew i wouldn't go to jail, which i would, which is why i don't do it.

If you take the stick out of your bum maybe you'll enjoy life more.

-Rudey
--Who knew she'd flip. She needs some loving. Everyone send hugs her way. Awwwwwwwwww. :D

valkyrie 10-04-2003 09:33 PM

Haha, Rudey, I am a scary animal activist, and I still think you're funny.

mmcat 10-04-2003 11:22 PM

animals...are still animals.
something clicked on that tiger.
who knows?

smiley21 10-05-2003 08:44 AM

it is good to know i am not alone in my reaction to this news. when i first heard about it from a customer at work, i could not stop laughing. i thought 'well he had it coming.' i felt guilty for acting rude but i couldnt help it. for a long time, i thought those two characters werent human.

midwesterngirl 10-05-2003 09:41 AM

It really was just a matter of time before one of their many animals got pissed off and retaliated.I was more surprised to find out that Roy was 59 years old than that he was mauled.

moe.ron 10-05-2003 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by midwesterngirl
It really was just a matter of time before one of their many animals got pissed off and retaliated.I was more surprised to find out that Roy was 59 years old than that he was mauled.
yeah, no kidding. I would have never though Roy is 59 yrs old.

Munchkin03 10-05-2003 11:15 AM

As terrible as it sounds, it was only a matter of time before something like this happened. No matter how long you own a tiger, no matter how familiar you are with it and it with you, it can always go to its natural instincts.

I mean, I hope he's okay. But it's not surprising at all.

DeltAlum 10-05-2003 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arya
yeah, no kidding. I would have never though Roy is 59 yrs old.
The wonders of plastic surgery and hair color. I saw them well over twenty years ago, and they had been around for quite a while then.

I still have no idea how they made a full size elephant disappear. Maybe it was magic.

Dionysus 10-05-2003 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Ok, fair enough. Let's make a deal, okay?

Solve EVERY human problem. End poverty, end hunger, end war, end murder, end rape. End every single problem that plights us.

Then maybe I'll care about animals......

Amen!

I wish an animal activist would throw red paint on GRANDMOTHER'S mink coat! She may be near 70 but she can still open up a can of whoop A$$! :eek:

Honeykiss1974 10-05-2003 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Amen!

I wish an animal activist would throw red paint on GRANDMOTHER'S mink coat! She may be near 70 but she can still open up a can of whoop A$$! :eek:

*LOL* picturing McDonald's McGriddle commercial with the grandma whooping up on the ninjas

She wouldn't be the only one. You can yell all you want, but when you move into the relm of damage, then it on!:mad: :mad:

Virtual Violet 10-05-2003 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by midwesterngirl
It really was just a matter of time before one of their many animals got pissed off and retaliated.I was more surprised to find out that Roy was 59 years old than that he was mauled.

Yeah, they are both senior citizens. Siegfried was perfroming as a magician in his early 20's in 1959 or the early 60's. You do the math.

Aside from the "obvious" plastic surgery, I would defy any other 60 year old man to run around in tights and wrestle with 700 pound lions and tigers.

All in all, the attack is a shame. I saw the show about 3 years ago, and it was great. The tigers are beautiful, and it was amazing the tricks they got them to do. I didn't see them hitting the tigers, they used verbal commands, so who knows what happened this time.

The unfortunate thing is that Siegfried and Roy are advocates of saving the big cat population, particualarly the tigers. Apparently there are less than 1000 tigers in the wild today due to poaching. They are supposedly working to reintroduce more tigers into the wild. The fact tigers are facing extinction is truly a shame, because I think they are some of the most beautiful creatures in the wild.

CC1GC 10-05-2003 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Virtual Violet

The unfortunate thing is that Siegfried and Roy are advocates of saving the big cat population, particualarly the tigers. Apparently there are less than 1000 tigers in the wild today due to poaching. They are supposedly working to reintroduce more tigers into the wild. The fact tigers are facing extinction is truly a shame, because I think they are some of the most beautiful creatures in the wild.

You touched upon an excellent point.

I think many of these animal rights activists who are adversive to caged animals in zoos aren't thinking clearly. These animals are not treated badly, they do not live under dangerous or uncomfortable conditions and probably have a higher level of emotional fulfillment than any of their wild counterparts. And this is not stating the obvious, that the information produced from being studied is best applied to ensure the animal will be around for a long time. So what's gonna happen if a wild animal, let's say tigers, do go extinct in the wild and there aren't any left in captivity to ensure the species' survival....anyone?

KSig RC 10-05-2003 01:07 PM

God, this is the funniest thread in weeks.

Anyone want to explain why we talk like humans aren't animals?

DeltaSigStan 10-05-2003 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CC1GC
You touched upon an excellent point.

I think many of these animal rights activists who are adversive to caged animals in zoos aren't thinking clearly. These animals are not treated badly, they do not live under dangerous or uncomfortable conditions and probably have a higher level of emotional fulfillment than any of their wild counterparts. And this is not stating the obvious, that the information produced from being studied is best applied to ensure the animal will be around for a long time. So what's gonna happen if a wild animal, let's say tigers, do go extinct in the wild and there aren't any left in captivity to ensure the species' survival....anyone?

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A lot of these animals live better than these people whose life goal is to protest or boycott SOMETHING.

Dionysus 10-05-2003 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSig RC
God, this is the funniest thread in weeks.

Anyone want to explain why we talk like humans aren't animals?

Buckle up kidos! Controversy is on the way!

breathesgelatin 10-05-2003 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CC1GC
You touched upon an excellent point.

I think many of these animal rights activists who are adversive to caged animals in zoos aren't thinking clearly. These animals are not treated badly, they do not live under dangerous or uncomfortable conditions and probably have a higher level of emotional fulfillment than any of their wild counterparts. And this is not stating the obvious, that the information produced from being studied is best applied to ensure the animal will be around for a long time. So what's gonna happen if a wild animal, let's say tigers, do go extinct in the wild and there aren't any left in captivity to ensure the species' survival....anyone?

I consider myself a borderline animal rights activist... I think more animal rights activists support zoos than you think. Personally I love most zoos--ie the North Carolina zoo (in my home state) is one of my favorite places. Acres of natural habitat, etc. I do have a problem with zoos that cage animals in concrete and iron cells that are tiny and unstimulating. Most legit zoos are moving towards the natural habitat model, but there are still mom and pop operations that are safe neither for animals or humans. At any rate, extreme types of protest are not the best way to go, methinks.

/sermon

CC1GC 10-05-2003 10:23 PM

Hey cutie, called logic. I think you need to take a break from saving the whales and read Lil'G's thread about wildlife.

Here it is

DeltaSigStan 10-27-2003 08:52 PM

BUMP

Did you know PETA is PRAISING the tiger for mauling Roy? God you people need to get your heads out of your asses.

AlphaSigOU 10-27-2003 09:57 PM

Extremist PETA activists should be put up against the wall and shot pour encourager les autres.

(Pour encourager les autres: "in order to encourage the others" in French. Its origin is from Voltaire's Candide:

"Dans ce pay-ci, il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres." (In this country it is good to kill an admiral from time to time, to encourage the others.)

The phrase is generally used when the punishment for some offense is entirely disproportionate to the gravity of the offense.)

It's one thing to promote vegetarianism and denounce animal cruelty. (You can take my Big Mac when you can pry it off my cold, dead fingers! ;) ) It's another thing to resort to guerrilla tactics to get your point across.

My two cents' worth (before taxes take 'em all away!).


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