The Fix is on!!!
 

I am afraid that this race in Florida is being illegally handeled and sabotaged by the governor of Florida. It is a shame and Americans shoud not stand by idle and let this happen... I urge you all to pray for the Gore campaign and get the Devil out of the voting process.

Diva_56

I agree.

Have you heard all of the racist comments coming out over this. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif

We all need to pray because I really fear http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif that something is about to go down and it's not good.

Point of information: We all know that regardless of who wins, there is going to be fingerpointing and accusations flying all over.

East Coast Sunshine, what racist comments? I haven't heard anything.

Here goes another 'I heard' - Gore filed a law suit about the 1900+ ballots that were thrown out and the courts dismissed it ... no if, ands or buts ...
yall tell me if I am wrong, cause I am in a closed building and I should not be on the web so CNN is not a place I can surf all day long.

LadyAKA, I don't know about Gore, but I heard on the news today that some voters in Florida filed a lawsuit on the grounds that the ballots on which they voted were confusing. They claim that they thought they were voting for Gore, when actually their votes went to Buchanan (sp.). It had something to do with the way the ballots were set up. The judge has allowed the claim and said it will be handled promptly.

All I have to say on this topic is...COURPTION(SP) IN THE AIR...IF BUSH WINS IT WON'T BE BECAUSE HE WAS BEING FAIR....LET US PRAY GORE COMES OUT ON TOP

All is well in Florida. Floridians need to pay more attention to detail when making such an important decision as the president of the United States. It's not the governors fault. I'm glad, now the person who would be best for the country will become president.

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My sentiments exactly Soror AKAtude http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif

How can you say that all is well in Florida or for our country? "Best president for the country?" Do not get me wrong everyone has a right to their own opinion. I live in Texas and the only time you hear about George Bush prior to this election is something dealing with executions. As far as I am concerned he has not done anything so great for his own state. Back to the issue at hand, there is obviously a major problem. In the course of a day going to work, school, home,out, and the internet everything relating to the elections deals with Florida. Yes there is a problem and I pray that it will be resolved soon and correctly.
LadyAKA, last I heard there were 19,000 ballots thrown out... In my particular area unfortunately there were 250 marked ballots found at a local school on yesterday that will not be included.
Sorry for the long post.
I had to edit the post to avoid the direction this topic was going.

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Though I have made comments about this off and on since Tuesday I have come to the realization that there is nothing that any of us can do; I mean we can protest and write letters, e-mails and make phone calls but seriously Florida is severely messed up and anyone that thinks it is not, is also messed up (IMHO-in my honest opinion). And I know in the past there have been irregularities in voting and votes have been thrown out and even in other states during this election, things got messed up, but they had to know all eyes would be on Florida because it is jeb bush town. And as close as this race was proposed to be, we should have been ready for this, someone is always trying to mess up a good thing.

No matter the outcome, whoever wins, our nation will suffer now, everything is tainted (people, ideas, States, Congress, families are divided). We need to do it all over again, but that has never been heard of. We look like serious idiots to outside communist nations, we talk about democracy and can't get our own shit right. So like I said there is nothing left for us to do, except PRAY, and I am sorry that was not my first thought, I should not be saying all we can do is PRAY, that should have been the first thing we all did and then maybe we would not be in this predicament. Anyway, I will humble myself to the lord, get on my knees, PRAY and just wait. I can't even watch the TV any more, we keep getting special reports and breaking news leads....my stomach has not been good since Tuesday night. I can't take it!!! What is done in the he dark will come to light. Our nation will be stressed for a long while to come after this, it does not matter who is president now ....the next 4 years are going to be hell - the arguments are not going to end. And I feel very sorry for all of us.
As one of my Sorors stated, I can picture the mass exodus to Canada or some surrounding islands - The United States is about to lose it place in the ranks if we don't get a grip, and soon.


Lastly, I really don't understand why we don't have national standards on voting. What the hell is Florida and Chicago still doing using punch hole ballots, some states have computers, yet still others, namely my home town, has pull down/up levers ...what the hell is this mess. And we lead the Tech era....please

The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

Anyone who would want to go to another country, Bye. This is will continue to be the leading country on the planet, as long as Bush is leading it, whether or not a few ungrateful, unpatriotic, deadbeats choose to leave.

By the way, an execution is less tax money than keeping that person alive for 70 years in jail.

The problem in FL. is not with the ballots, but with the lack of attention to detail on the part of the voters. With such an important decision at hand. One would think they would take their time and do it correctly.

What about those 12,000 votes that got tossed? If it was all the voters fault, why do all those folks in Florida have such a strong case on the voter sabotage tip. hmmmm.... Is the weather in Canada nice at this time of year?... Unpatriotic my B-HIND. This country has had no and still don't have no love for me and those who share my background....and you have the nerve to speak on somebody being UNPATRIOTIC...

There seem to be some negative Mojo in the air. Opinions are welcomed but out right ignorance is not!

There was a decision made 2 to 1 this morning that 620,000+ votes will be manually counted in Florida. By the way, What is this!? Some of our people in Florida were given ballots that were already punched? And some people were given pencils instead of pens?

I'm sorry, but if my brother or sister were running for a position like this and I was the govenor, I would make every effort to make sure the voting process went on smoothly. And that is just common sense!

If I were Bush or Gore, I would not want to take office because, this is sooo ugly and you will always be questioned!

Mojo, Bush is an absolute moron. No if's ands or buts about it. If he gets into office this nation will quickly become the laughingstock of the rest of the world. That is all I have to say.

I am often amazed at what people will actually allow to come out of their mouths in this forum. I understand everyone has a right to their opinion but some need not speak before they think. In Florida there have been numerous allegations of wrongdoings that is no fault of the voter but those in charge. According to some of the voters in Palm Beach County, there were complaints that the ballots were confusing because of the positioning of canidates and this was BEFORE November 7th. In fact, here in Orange County, we had a ballot similar to the one they used before and it can be very confusing because the arrows are not exactly positioned directly in front of the canidate. The NAACP has been listening to testimonies all day today from various communities and some of these stories are astonishing to say the least. The most incredible was the finding of a voting box at a church in Hillsborough County. Kwesi Mfume sent investigators to the police precinct to confirm this allegation that a police officers offered as testimony. The investigators came back with confimation and a photograph of the locked box. They have yet to investigate the contents of the box. The people who gave their testimony reminded me of stories from the past when people were not allowed to vote using any means such as tests, Grandfather Clause, intimidations, etc. I take my right to vote very seriously. One reason is because my grandmother and great grandmother narrowly escaped injury or death along with other families who were forced to leave all that they owned behind simply because a Black man tried to exercise his right to vote. This happened in 1922 in the city of Ocoee, Florida. Therefore, I do not take any of these issues lightly. To put it bluntly: there is a huge problem in Florida. Many have been DENIED the right to vote which is a constitutional right. If you want more direct information about the issues surrounding this, you can watch C-SPAN.

Ania-I do agree with that last statement. I heard someone say two nights ago that we should throw Bush and Gore out of the race and have a new election with all new candidates.

It seems to me that Granny is the negative one. If you think Canada is the better choice, you should have left a long time ago. Don't cry take action and leave. If you don't like your life, change it.

32-This country a laughingstock. If you haven't noticed, it's been that way since the LewinskyGate affair. No pun intended.

By the way an EXECUTION is not more cost effective then keeping a person alive for 70 years, but either way who are we to say that a person should be put to death ...

and p.s. being rude does not make one right.



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Who's being rude, I'm talking the finance of prison versus death penalty.

I modified my post due to the direction that it was going. I was stating MY personal opinion on Bush. Mojo we all have our personal opinions! I pray, hope, and wait that things work out for the best.
Gore supporter all the way through.

"Always filled with happiness and peace! No one will ever still my joy."
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Man, did I call this or what?

You win. :D

This nation isn't the laughingstock of the world. I cringe when I think about what would have happened around 9/11 with Gore as President.

^^Dude. Go. Away.

We wouldn't be at war, and we wouldn't have injured Veterans held up in molded, rat infested motel rooms. (check out the Washington Post for more details):cool:

Hey neat, you actually read the paper one day and found something interesting. You might want to check back and see that officials are now acting on this information. Believe it or not, Bush doesn't know everything that goes on in the country. Its completely idiotic when people on here consistently blame him for anything that happens within the government. I think its great the Post reported on this, it brought attention to the subject and hopefully we'll see quick action to begin fixing the problem. That is a role of the press. If the media would spend more time doing things like this, more might get done. However, usually they spend time blaming things on the administration when the blame should be placed at different levels (Katrina).

As for war, we may or may not be in one. God knows what response Al Gore would have had to 9/11, if any. I'm sure Iraq would be a stable DICTATORSHIP if Gore was president, which would be a great improvement for their citizens...

As for Little, if you bash US leaders, I'll respond whenever I damn well please. If you want to start a separate forum titled something like "People who don't know anything about government or politics-Post here!" I'll be happy to seek my entertainment elsewhere.

^^Dude. Go Away.

Only a republican would be concerned with the system of another country when we have things at home that need our attention (all the while the well being of our soldiers is a vague after thought and the wishes of the citizens are overlooked).

I am not surprised.

Seriously, take a government class. Turn on the History Channel. Republicans are the only ones concerned with systems in other countries? You must be kidding me. I guess thats why Johnson did such an excellent job getting us out of Vietnam. Oh, and Clinton in Somalia. We should get our priorities straight and just focus on America...Wait, what about Darfur?

The wishes of the citizens are being overlooked? Why, because you voted out the evil Republicans and we're still in Iraq? Thankfully, we don't have people like you making decisions for us. Apparently you're unfamiliar with the NON BINDING resolution passed by the Democratic-controlled House. I guess that NON BINDING resolution shows just how serious the Democrats (your party) are at getting us out of Iraq, just like you asked them to.

Are you still here?

We need some Fratty Boy be Gone.

Dude. R. I. F. Go Away.


OK, I am done now.

Yes Soror, I think most rational people would agree that in this case I did.

Little, you sure seem intolerant of other people's viewpoints. You also display a complete lack of ability to defend your opinion, dude.

You'd be smart, if you knew what you were talking about...not in the mood to debate...you win.

I do know what I'm talking about, but thank you for your concession.

Not a complete lack of ability, just a complete lack of desire.

Why do you keep coming here anyway? Are there people here who give you the indication that they are interested in hearing your perspective? Isn't there someone in another forum that you can play with?

What on earth gave you the impression that I cared whether or not you wanted to hear my perspective?

It is really important to you to have the last word, isn't it?

The smartest things in the whole post. You're right, Bush doesn't know anything that goes on in this country. So, tell Bush Binladen if he wants to save the people in IRAQ so badly, take his ish and move there. We could use someone interested in DOMESTIC issues. Oh, Bush could take some of Tony Blair's balls and get OUR troops out of Iraq too. :cool:

Did you major in some foreign policy related field? Man, closing up shop in Iraq would do wonders for that region, huh. Domestic issues, like the booming economy? Things like that? Oh right, we only attribute things to Bush if they're negative.

I love how in a few short years, the "save everybody" left has suddenly become isolationist. I predict we'd pull out of Iraq, elect a new (GOP) president, and suddenly the left would be wondering why we're not helping people in Africa. So lets say we send some troops there for humanitarian efforts, but given the region some of those troops aren't appreciated. A few get killed, and all the sudden liberals are bitching and crying about it.

We could win the war in Iraq next week if people in this country had the stomach for it, but they don't. Everything is a noble cause until it costs us or some other country something. If the left wants to be isolationists, hell yes, lets do it. I've got a pretty strong feeling that the shelf life on that would be pretty short, however.