The Official Anti-Bush thread
 

Here hippies.

Post away about whatever your little bleeding hearts desire about our president.

That way, i don't have to stumble on your liberal propaganda while i'm surfing GC.

Kitso
KS 361 times i will never post on this thread again.

yes i am def anti bush.

not GB, the other type yo.

SIGNED

But we still have to stumble across your conservative propaganda.


Sigh.

Hey ya expatrioted Texasan, you anit south of the Red Riber no more eh!:rolleyes:

Ya a South Dak--friggin-ota Dude Now!

Did Ya Get My Message???? EH?:)

I like bush, especially the, never mind. Not going to that sexual conatation.

I don't. It needs to be shaved.

I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE POSTER

Hippies, War Mongers, Peace Freaks, Baby Killers, Hawks, Doves -- Geez, am I back in the sixties?

If it's OK to post in favor of something or someone, then it should be OK to post negatively as well.

As an open forum, I'm OK with almost any kind of post -- except personal attacks -- but could we dial back the name calling?

I've said that I wasn't real happy with either choice in the last election -- and I don't think President Bush (and administration) is doing a real good job on a lot of things -- but anyone who would call me a hippy probably needs to have his/her prescriptions checked.

Well, I do need a haircut this week.

But that's ok because they run the country and John Ashcroft said they could.

471 times I wonder what's wrong with the water in Texas

isn't there a song called "lost in the 60's"?

Just to clarify, when i use the word hippie to describe liberals, i'm using it in a tounge-in-cheek manner.

Sort of like when you call your best friend a dick, ass, or when a girl calls her friend a biatch :D

I figure that most of GC knows that i'm not out to make enemies so i use the hippie comment as a term of endearment. Y'all are all my hippie liberal buddies.

except zntke.

BTW GP, most of these posts of mine lately have come since i've been in SD, so maybe the water in Texas is what keeps us conservatives "compassionate" :p

Kitso
KS 361 times y'all can call me a mean-spirited war mongerer and i'll just laugh it off

Here's what I don't get:

Why, all the sudden, have we had an outpouring of Clinton apologists?

The man is not considered a remarkable president, according to anything I've read - even ignoring his arrogance with regard to perjury etc.

I'm going to have to agree with a non-traditional school of thought and posit for you all that the legacy of a president should have little to do with the economic stability of the country DURING his presidency. Economic fluctuations are largely cyclical (yep, oversimplification, i realize), and the long-term effects often are seen years later.

Guess what . . . it's starting to be years later.

So when we talk about Clinton's presidency . . . what do we talk about? Unparalleled lows in unemployment? Increases in standard of living? Decreasing crime rates?

All patterns whose roots may not be planted in any of Clinton's decisions.

In fact - there might be absolutely no reason to exalt any president for these actions. Clinton was an amazingly charismatic man, a great speechwriter and a fantastic pitchman, that, I think, is certain.

Just like the few before him, however, I do NOT think he was a remarkable president. I'm not a presidential scholar, by any means, but I find it difficult to understand this sudden outpouring of pro-Bill sentiment.

Does he really just look that good by comparison to the current conservative platform?

I like Bush, trimmed one of course.

I don't like the name calling or hostility in some of the other threads regarding politics. It's nice to see young people (under 25) so passionate about politics, but the tone of some of the posts is disturbing. I wonder what some of you are doing with this passion besides posting on greekchat. I strongly encourage you, liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican, to get involved. Register to vote, show up at the polls, and not just for the Presidential election. Many of these candidates got their start at the local, regional, county, or city level, so vote at every election. Encourage you friends to do so, also. Volunteer for candidates or causes that you support. Your vote is your voice and will help determine the future leaders of our great nation.

Absolutely. It's my anthem.

I've been lost in the 60's for years. Maybe that's why I'm so touchy about "name calling." I admit it. I hated to hear the various factions calling each other everything but human beings during that era. It's an impediment to communications. But, that's my problem.

Good points above by Cream.

I hope that the "passionate" folks Cream talks about (I've noticed that, too, by the way), feel as they do for good reasons -- not simply to meet the definition of "liberal" or "conservative." Or even worse, because "their family has always been..."

The ideals of this republic, as I understand them, include friendly debate on any and/or all issues.

Finally, if there is one thing I've learned, it is that very few people have all the right answers -- and in fact, almost no problem has a perfect solution.

As I've said before, the older I get, the less sure I am of anything. There are always shades of gray.

I'd be happy to provide us with our first anti-Bush news of the day:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/19/opinion/19FRI2.html

I saw this one coming ever since he signed that law making fetuses (sp?) eligible for healthcare

not starting an pro life pro choice thread here - I have a bad feeling though that this is the first step to banning abortion completely. Its not going to stop the "baby killing" if a woman wants to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy that much, she'll do it - Mexico and Canada aren't that far away and to a woman who is desperate, anything will do.

Instead of babies dying - we will reverse the problem and have women dying from sepsis or blood loss from improper closet abortions.

That article mentions DPhiE alumna Senator Barbara Boxer.

I'm anti-bush too, I'm strictly dickly. :cool:

wow, wasnt that saying used 7436462 years ago back when people were still monkeys?

What answer would sastify you? :cool:

It's important to point out in terms of this discussion that the link was to an editorial -- not a news story.

Which doesn't mean it isn't right, but it is not offered by the Times as Fact -- rather as Opinion.

Having said that, one of my problems with this President is that he and his administration have been deceptive about a number of things.

Not that this is directly about Bush, but I thought my liberal GC friends would want to hear about it...
I saw a bumper stick a while back. It had an American flag with little white doves as the stars and it said "Peace is Patriotic". I loved it!!! Wish I could find it somewhere!

Odd.

From the title, I thought this thread was about depilation ;)

Ouch!

I think the reason people are nostalgic for Clinton is that things were in general pretty good back then, save for his sexual escapades in the O.O. I will say that his foreign policy was much better than some of his predecessors and certainly better than the current regime. Wow did I just say regime? It does sort of feel like a mass conspiracy of sorts is lurking out there, but at least it only has to last a year and 4 months.

True - historians I have read or heard speak put Clinton at middle of the road, at best. The only citation that comes to mind is Robert Dallek, a top Presidential historian who I have taken lectures with, and Dallek places Clinton in the lower/bottom half of Presidents.

Actually, your thought isn't so non-traditional; a great deal many more scholars are looking at the economic impacts of presidents after their administrations. It's more widely accepted now to say that, yes, even if a President was in office for good economic times, they were not necessarily of his own doing.

I think people have to draw the line between a good President and a good politician. Clinton is a damn good politician - his public speaking is excellent, he works crowds well, and he fits the TV generation to a T. Does this mean he was a good President? Not necessarily.

I don't know - I was a Clinton supporter at first, but as time has gone on and I've read more in history, I wouldn't repeat that statement.

How did I forget about this thread?

I will bump it with this

http://home.comcast.net/~andryeevna/...ushforpres.jpg