non-university student in unversity frat?
 

i know a boy who is enrolled at a local community college but a new member to an LSU fraternity. he tried to explain to me that his fraternity's charter was regional and not only affiliated with the university and that a lot of fraternities can have members who don't attend their school. i guess this explanation makes sense, but i still don't think it's logical. is not the school responsible for the member in some ways even if he is not a student? do they realize they are liable for such? also, what about academics? the reason this new member isn't attending LSU is because he couldn't get in...is a semester or two of partying with the boys really going to improve his GPA enough to allow him admission to the univeristy, if that is even his goal? i guess i just think this is a pretty bad idea and was wondering if this is a common practice and if any of you have thoughts on the matter.

NPHC fraternities do have citywide chapters that can encompass people from several schools, but I didn't think that was the case with the chapter at LSU.

Is this a social, service, professional, what kind of fraternity?

Wellyou also cant say that "partying with the boys" was his goal..I mean i guess you could say that..and that may be..but ther goes the stereotype :D

Anyways..maybe he wants to build character...

I think that some NIC fraternities allow this; I know for a fact that NPC sororities don't. Can anyone verify if their fraternity allows this?

A non-matriculate can only be initiated into Sigma Nu if the High Council (the national governing body) votes to accept them. This doesn't happen often (although I've had an application I wrote for someone approved).

I've heard of other fraternities doing this though.

it's a social

hah, i didn't mean to perpetuate the stereotype, but this is guy i know and have known for a few years and building character is NOT his goal ;) he is a GREAT guy, don't get me wrong, but i would say that he definitely fits into the stereotype. didn't mean to offend, though, sorry :D

Since my greek system has two intertwined universities, many of the chapters that are based at either school will have a couple members that go to the other. Most NAIC fraternities that i've spoken with regarding this are laissez-faire when it concerns smaller chapters, but if it's feasible to have two chapters, they would be more stringent. With your case involving a very large greek system, the fraternity advisors probably don't care if the odd non-student trickles in, as long as there isn't a manufactured rush at another institution.

Maybe it's different from fraternity to fraternity, or school to school, but I know at FSU last year one fraternity got in trouble for having a pledge that went to Tallahassee Community College and not FSU - I think they were put on probation? I'm not sure though.

This just made me smile. I can imagine a rushee coming up to a house saying, "Hey, I'm looking for some character."

:D

NO, it is not a IFC/NIC Fraternity!:mad:

While some may be going to unlikely Colleges, it aint like this!:rolleyes:

It aint a Frat!!!!! :mad:

If you can not spell Fraternity then do not post! It is Fraternity!

Get it? This grates many of us a bunch, get it!:o :mad:

Beta Theta Pi rules in its constitution state that

"Any regularly enrolled male student, graduate or undergraduate of a college/university for which there is an established chapter or colony of Beta Theta Pi mayb become a member of the Fraternity..."

So in the case of this young man he would not be able to join going to another college.

Any male non-student may be initiated by a chapter, so long as he has been deemed worhty by his efforts for and continued interest in a chapter of Beta Theta Pi provided (1) he meets the qualifications set out in the Constitution of Beta Theta Pi and (2) his qualifications have been presented to the District Chief, who approves the request and notifies the Administrative Secretary.

Second! I am tired to hear even people in GC keep using the term "frat" instead of "fraternity". It is offensive for some people, so be careful where you use the term, and the GC is definetely NOT a place to use it.

Just my .02 cent ;)

it may be an NIC fraternity. I know that our Rutgers' chapter has brothers from the surrounding community and junior colleges. They worked it out with the schools and our National HQ. There's nothing wrong with this unless your school or HQ says there is.

At WKU the community college is considered WKU- they can live on campus and all, therefore they can rush at the fraternities and sororities on campus.
So yes, it can happen, if the community college is a part of the university.

I don't understand this at all. I always thought that you have to attend the school the chapter is in to join. I see that there are some exceptions made, but I still don't get it.

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um, sorry? it's just an abbreviation. i used it in the subject heading to keep it SHORT. i obviously wasn't trying to offend anyone, so there is no point in getting irate. a nice, polite "please do not use that term" would have sufficed. sometimes all of this greek PC-ness in GC land can be too much to remember when i'm just typing up a quick post!

Once upon a time, SIUE used to allow chapters to have members that attended the local community colleges (provided it was allowed by their national hq), until we had a risk management "incident" committed by one of these community college members. The university couldn't discipline him, the community college refused to since the fraternity wasn't theirs, and it turned into a rather nasty situation (the very first year I started working here too!) Since then, it is a strict requirement that membership is limited to enrolled SIUE students.

at WKU since the community college is WKU then it is different. You can take classes at both, and pay one tuition. When you register for classes there you choose from the class roster, which is for both campuses and the campus in Glasgow... so it isn't really a seperate school, just another part of the school.

By and large you need to be a dually registered student at a school to join the chapters at that school.

But there may be exceptions with certain organizations.

I know my Fraternity once had the concept of Extension Membership. This allowed a chapter to induct no more then 5 students from local schools who didn't have chapters into their chapter. The intent was to help 'jump start' chapters. Those Brothers could then start chapters at their school and do so as Brothers, rather then non-Brothers. But we removed that membership class recently (done by those who never used it and didn't see its usefulness).

in the case of the guy i know, he is not dually enrolled and the two schools (a city community college and the university) have nothing to do with one another. i guess what i gather from the perspectives i've seen here is that is IS allowed at some schools or by some chapters - but there seems to be no general IFC rule about it. overall, it must be up to the national office of each GLO...? ah well, whatever, the more the merrier! :D