Rush at Western Illinois University
 

How did the chapters at Western Illinois do during fall 03 recruitment??

I heard from a Chi-O that we only had 77 make it through to Pref Night... how sad:( I'm very upset for the wonderful ladies of our Greek system.

What are the numbers usually like there? I think we would be dancing in the streets over 77 LOL.

33 - she means 77 total PNMs at ALL pref parties combined! They started the week with about 180 PNMs but a bunch dropped right before pref.

Quota was set for 18 with 6 chapters. 77 girls attended prefs. You do the math! :rolleyes:

180 to 77 does suck, but considering we've had years where we had to cancel rush cause no one showed up (!) if we get double digit pledge classes, it's miraculous! :)

Ah ha! I see... :eek:

I heard the same thing. From what I understand, Sigma Sigma Sigma, Delta Zeta, and Phi Sigma Sigma all made quota of 18, while Alpha Sigma Tau, Chi Omega and Sigma Kappa did not.

What is going on at WIU? Something needs to change with whomever is administating Greek Life...

What's up with Greek life there?? I'm thinking of transfering and just wondered if upperclassmen were welcomed, because that is certainly not the case here...

As a member of a sorority at WIU, I feel like the general sentiment towards upperclassmen as PNMs is relatively unwelcoming. We don't like to accept upperclassmen as new members in our house unless it is an extraordinary circumstance. Most of the time we only accept freshmen. The greek system at WIU is pretty pathetic right now. I feel like we are wasting our money on a system that is quickly going down the tubes. Having quota set at 18 new girls is not very encouraging. I think PNMs drop so frequently because the see how weak the system is, and they don't want anything to do with it. It's hard to talk girls into something that isn't as great as it once was or is at other schools. There is a definite problem at Western regarding the greek community, and it needs to be fixed!

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but when the Greek system is in as dire of straits as it sounds here, groups are usually ecstatic for any quality members they can get, and that includes juniors or even seniors. Why would sororities turn upperclassmen away when they could possibly help the chapter?? Maybe part of the problem is too much youth and not enough experience.

I'm sure your PNM's and New Members would feel really welcome after they read this. :confused:

I rushed at WIU as a soph. and I never felt unwelcome....in fact in my pledge class there was only 1 freshman. Alot of women at WIU rush as Soph/Jrs.

Yes, the Greek system at WIU could use some help, but it's not totally pathtic. For the size and location of WIU, I think it's fine.


And thanks DZHBrown for reading my mind. Hopefully it won't discourage women from finding their home here at WIU.

I am also a student at WIU and I believe the reasons for such a low recruitment turnout is because the girls are worried about the financial obligations, or because they believe they will be hazed.
I do agree that the greek system at WIU is not as strong as it was before and an improvement needs to be made

Every chapter at WIU is represented somewhere else in the state. Is there a way the chapters at EIU and ISU and U of I could help out?

Oh, that's kind of sad... but like they said before it doesn't make a whole lot of sense... do you know the reasoning behind this??

After posting what I said earlier this week, I did not plan on being attacked by all of you! I think I am entitled to my opinion, and I doubt the rest of you know how Sigma works. With that in mind, I'd keep your comments about our rush to yourselves! We can accept whomever we want into our house, and we can exclude whomever we want also. Sigma is a very prestigious house at WIU, and we are selective. I'm sorry if you other houses on campus can't afford to be as picky. :o

WOW! I really hope no PNMs from your school are reading this, because I'd certainly be discouraged from rush based on your attitude. You yourself said there are problems, and sisters of another sorority from your school gave their opinions on the situation. I think a big issue in your system is Panhellenic unity, judging from your attitude. :p

Ummmm... oh my gosh. Big pat on the back for you!!!:eek: :rolleyes: :confused: :o :(

Please, please, please enlighten me on "how Sigma works". You know, I have Sigma friends and they've never bothered to tell me how much better they are than me before. I'm curious.

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No one has criticized your sorority whatsoever. People were merely discussing Panhellenic and rush issues. You're the one who brought "how Sigma works" into it. And you made some very negative comments about Greek life in general, too.

What happend to the way you felt about WIU Sigma back in July? :confused:
here's a link to the thread this was said in

Wow....I can't believe how embarrassing this is to hear about this website from somone on campus. After all we did to try and keep you from deactivating from our house? Now you just go and be a complete snob on greekchat in front of everybody? You are trashing our house's name! You are making us sound horrible! We should have just let you go! I don't know why you think it's okay to tell people that we don't like to accept upperclassmen! That is just bad PR! The greek system at WIU is weak enough right now as is without a little prissy b**** like you going around venting your feelings publicly on a national chat forum! You should be ashamed! I know Sigma is ashamed in you!:eek:

whoa... i'm just going to quickly step away from this one

wow sorry didn't mean to cause such drama... I just wanted to know about Western's rush!

sigmasweetie,

When you used "we" I did not realize you were referring to your sorority exclusively - I thought you meant the entire system was reluctant to accept anything other than freshmen. I was not questioning any decisions that one particular sorority makes.

Had I known what you really meant, I would have been a lot less nice. :rolleyes:

I am not shallow, but there is some validity to Sigma Sweetie's argument, though she may not have the intelligence to convey her message with more tact. I know plenty of sophs that pledged top six sorortities (sorry, but everyone knows whom the top six are at Texas, it is no secret) and rush is much more difficult for them. Though, they do pledge, they have much more in common with the actives than the pledges, therefore, do not cultivate very strong bonds with their pledge classes. However, each person and each situation is unique, and therefore not safe to assume any outcome.

phishphan at ut,

Your name was playing tricks on me. I thought you were a Pi Phi named Shannon. :) You are however a phan of Phish.

I don't think it should be a negative that older pledges might not be super close to their pledge class - especially nowadays when being in college only 4 years is the exception rather than the norm.

It was not my intention to convey that being excluded (too strong of a word) from their pledge class was a negative,but simply that people have grown since their freshman year and normally have different priorities. Everyone has their own experience in the greek system, and takes away from it a unique perspective. For instance, for myself, I did not exclude myself from members of other fraternities simply because I wore different letters. I hung out with people I liked, not just the people I was encouraged to like. Some people just get too caught up in the whole thing, which I feel sorry for.

Quick, where's the popcorn- I see a catfight coming on!

Please refrain from airing Tri Sigma dirty laundry on a very public board. Your words hold more power than you know. During this time of Fall recruitment, where potential new members may be reading these boards, your words have darkened their image of our lovely sisterhood. If you have words to say, please take them off the board and handle them in your chapter meetings. This is both very un-Sigma like behavior and completely uncalled for. If this continues, your chapter's Alumnae Advisory Board or your Collegiate Coordinator may be contacted.

Okay, I know this is a serious thread, but did this make anyone else laugh?

YES!

So much un-necessary drama!!! Dirty laundry should stay in the hamper in your room and not be disscussed so publicly!! All of us have issues one way or another at some point but that doesn't mean you have to tell the whole world about it and slander your organization!

where have i heard that before... sorority life!!

sigmasweetie had better take off her pledge bracelet... ;)

Seriously... dirty laundry does not belong in a public forum.

*snarf*
That rocked.

I am laughing so hard!! The library clerk is on the other side of the room and I know she wonders what the HELL is soooo funny!

What she said! :D Anyone wanna start taking side bets? Where are the drinks!
making sure my nails...I mean claws are in fighting shape!

Ahem...keep things on track, okay?

/mod hat coming off now.


Thanks,

EEEEEEEEEK! :eek: on the Un-Sigma like behavior. This thread is just scary!

This whold thread doesn't even surprise me! I'm in a house at Western Illinois (where these sigmas are from) and their behavior on this forum is typical. They think they are so much better than everyone else. They walk around campus like they own the place, and they are not even that great! None of my friends like them, and the guys who do like them only like them for shady reasons. They are not classy girls, and I think their actions are very hilarious! Haha Sigmas! Just wait till your advisory board hears about this!:eek:

Your reply is no better than the postings to which you refer. Attacks on individuals or chapters will not be tolerated in this or any other forum on Greekchat.

I am closing this thread.