Hierarchy on GC?
 

In reference to the Damasa and Decadence fight.




Recently I've noticed that there seems to be a hierarchy on GC.

This is what I see as do many others:

If certain people don't like you and/or have a conflict of interest with you, your posts are either deleted or someone ends up being banned. Why do certain people get away with murder, so to speak, while others have their posts deleted? I'm sure that if a moderator gets out of hand John puts them in check. But I'm wondering why their posts rarely get deleted and a few of them appear to have free reign when is comes to insults?

There are also a few things I'd like to point out. I remember when UFpike was around and he always got into fights on GC with damasa, kddani (apparently he still fights with her), Hootie, KDatUTC and a few others. I find it ironic that he was banned as UFpikePC98 around the same time those who he fought with became moderators. If you go back and check the time frame those mentioned above became mods you will see that UFpikePC98 was banned shortly after. UFpike's banning was a must, he was bad. A question though, what about future people and their posts? In a few posts, which I can pull up, certain people threaten others with the possibility of being banned..........................However, it has been stated time and time again that ONLY John has the authority to ban. On the other hand I catch the stinch that many others have a say in what happens and how certain situations are dealt with. I realize that it's probably because moderators vote on certain situations but should some moderators actually be moderators at all? I'm also wondering if anyone else sees a decline in the amount of GC'ers who post because of the way forums such as chit-chat are being ran and how favortisim appears to a must within certain crowds of GC? And do any of you realize that message boards go stagnant because of actions like those that have been happening recently? Take note that this post is NOT directed to moderators alone, there are others out there in GC land that get away with a lot of B.S.

Zeta Ace has done a superb job refereeing the chit chat forum (cashmoney tips the hat to you lady) but she can't do everything. Now chit chat, under my impression, is supposed to be a forum where you can talk about almost anything and are supposedly allowed to express your opinion without being flamed in return. Yet more and more I am seeing how people get flamed over and over again, sometimes by the same individual/s, and nothing happens to certain people. In many cases the flamatory posts aren't even deleted. I'll venture to guess that 1/2 of the cheap shots taken on GC go unnoticed by many who could care less. On the otherhand some who are flamed don't report the posts for whatever reason and just let things die out. At the same time when certain individuals come back at those who come down on them rduely, their posts get deleted and are not even given a reason as to why it was deleted.

This post is NOT a flamatory post to moderators, don't turn it into one. I've been having serious doubts about GC lately. I see it turning into one of those boards where if you're not in favor with certain people or you just don't see eye to eye with certain people, there are some who will make things really bad for you on here. That in itself eventually turns into not stop fighting which will usually end in either you leaving the board or being kicked off.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Anyone else feel the same?


CashMoney

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Re: Hierarchy on GC?
 

Is this not apart of life in ways that extend beyond GC? How do you handle those situations? We all know folks on the job who get away with MURDER - goof off, don't work, barely come into work, etc. and yet they are still employed. :o


Plus, GC is privately owned, so what can you REALLY do...

I'm the viceroy of Greek Chat. Bow down before me.

yah it's always been like this. i just LOL at the mods because they think they are so special online cuz they can edit/delete and cast a vote to ban me and IRL they are silly and goofy.

teehee good times for all!

p.s. john has checked me. so i cannot be mean anymore

Re: Re: Hierarchy on GC?
 

What a reality check! Good post.

Thats true, honeykiss. But those who do things such as those you mentioned, they don't stay employed for long. And is it not a public message board? Anyone can join, right? There's no password inorder for you to get on the site. All you have to do is have a valid email account and follow that link.

I am the queen of GC. Everyone bows to my will. That is all you need to know.

and to resurrect an oldie but goodie...

thank you, drive through.

yah im gonna love all the "i am the soandso of gc, please worship me"

silly people.

Madam, I challenged you to a duel to settle this power struggle once and for all. Tommorow, high noon, by the church tower.

Some posters are really bad and are ultimately banned. If people don't complain to a moderator about a thread or a poster and if a moderator doesn't see it, it will remain. I think that the moderators do a good job. Blatantly offensive threads and posts are deleted quickly. Questionable threads are edited. For the most part, GC is a fun place to visit, read, and post. :)

OK...super soakers at 10 paces. be sure to wear your favorite hat.

man, I'm gonna kick your ass into next Tuesday. :p

I am the Empress of GC land. :) I have always wanted to be a Empress.

True, but remember because this is a privately-owned site, the 1st Amendment flies right out of the window.

We are at the mercy, so to speak of the mods and John.

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On a side note, if you feel like something posted or a poster is totally out of line, use the "report this post to the moderator" button or email John. You will get a response or results.

mmm mmm cory's the hottie of gc mmmm i'd bow down for him anyday mmmmmmmmm

Tickets are now on sale. Front-row seats are still available, but hurry - they're going fast!

As an added bonus, the winner gets to take on Empress Cream.

:p

explain to me why someone who registered today knows what happened a year ago?

As some of our lawyer members have pointed out in the past, there really isn't a First Amendment issue here in the first place since it only applies to a government abridgement of free speech.

GC isn't the government.

:(

it isn't?? I've been living my life with GC as one of the end all be alls, and I'm sure so have a lot of other people. I thought what we agreed on in GC overturns anything the government throws at us.

I know DeltAlum. My point was that this really isn't a place that you can "say whatever you want" and not be moderated because of the 1st Amendment. This site and its moderators are free to edit or delete as according to what they deem is offensive (or others who have pm'd/emailed them).

Now this happens to be very interesting to see the views of someone who registered today, but they know what happend on GC way back when. I feel it's a reincarnation of someone, but that's ok.

For the record, I'm not taking it personally, because I think this post is semi-hilarous. I have had posts deleted by other mods in the past, I've had posts edited by other mods in the past. I'm sure that I will have posts deleted or edited in the future.

I have never once threatend to ban someone, I couldn't even if I wanted to and furthermore I"m not even a mod for Chit-Chat so I have no say as to what the mods do in there. That's up to them.

I tend to not hold things back and honestly I've had more praise come of it than I have had negativity.

Anyway cashmoney, why don't you tell us who you really are? We don't need to hide here ;)

I think Blaine should be banned.

He's what we like to call an "instigator."

I post under another name. I sure as well wouldn't post a topic like this one under my ordinary name.

That's where you have your difference, some people, including myself, will post anything under their own username...i.e. not making a new one up for special topics. Whether it's good or bad, yadda yadda.

Anyway, I wanted to bring this back, needs more :

http://www.drivenbyboredom.com/bling/dumbasses1.jpg

I have been a Moderator since 2/19/01...far longer than UFPike was around. I'd also like to mention that I never "fought" with UFPike. I may have replied against what he had to say, but a lot of other people do the same so I don't classify that as fighting.

In regaurds to MY quote, I wrote "play nice, or else" because Billy is a friend and I didn't apprecaite the slam on him that he has no friends.

Moderators are just that...they MODERATE the forums because John alone cannot do so. It is to OUR discretion what is appropriete and what is not. OFTEN we will have a discussion in our Moderator Forum about issues before an action is taken. Yet, in certain forums it is still up to the Moderator that runs that forum as to what action needs to be taken. As a Moderator of the Chi Omega forum I can lock, delete, combine and move threads from that forum alone. I cannot ban anyone, nor can I do those above things in the Chit Chat forum (for example).

John is the ONLY person on here who can ban people, so if you have a problem with it you have to talk to John. We don't VOTE either...that's just rediculous. Sorry, but I have too many things to do than to sit around voting people off the internet. We will simply bring problems or concerns about a post, John will research it and then take action or not. Without going into too much detail I will say this...when UFPike was around he was banned, then he came back under another name. If YOU recall, John did NOT ban him right away. There was a little bit of an uproar (not just with the Moderators - but regular GC Folks) as to why he could be banned and then let back.

Further more, I'd like to add that we, as Moderators, don't always delete things. You see, there is a button at the bottom of every post that allows people to "REPORT THIS POST TO A MODERATOR" and so it is thru that we learn about situations.

I feel bad if you personally feel that this is not a fun environment.

Hope that clears the air.

And I don't know why you feel the need to hide under another name if you feel so strongly about this. :rolleyes:

GC's not public. Sure, anyone can join, but by joining you MUST AGREE to the GC TERMS OF SERVICE. If you don't abide by them, you're out. Spamming and inflammatory posts are best bets to get banned from this.

If GC were public, it wouldn't have moderators and administrators checking the site often. It'd be a free for all.

interesting, but if this were the case then why would you start other, less controversial threads under a pseudonym as well?

lol
 

I've had my fair share of scandalous affairs on GC.

-remember our forbidden rendevous, Billy?-

Maybe CashMoney is Sh8er or whatever the name was.

I'm sure you all remember her.

Anyways, I wouldn't worry about the Moderators. Don't put yourself into the position to be banned and you wont be banned. It's like...what that one girl on the reunion of 'For Love or Money' said...."Rob never disrespected me because I never gave him the chance" Or something like that.

Anyways, I think Damasa should be king of GC.
Hootie can be his queen.
I'll be his mistress.

hey asamad, it's all about this pic

http://www.ricecop.com/ricepics/lord_of_the_blings.jpg

Re: lol
 

LMAO!

The fundemental issue here isn't whether or not people are obeying the terms of service, it's about how some people get away with breaking the rules while others can't. And no, Hootie, you weren't a moderator when UFpike came into the scene under his first screen name. OTW-I have no problem whether or not people get banned or have their posts deleted for breaking rules. But rules SHOULD apply to everyone. And you're wrong about it being public. All public boards that I have been on do have moderators, there are rules to abide by. Being a public message board does not mean a free for all, as you put it, but instead a board anyone can join. And hootie, the famous " or else" threat was not made in your fourm. It was made in chit chat, a forum of which you have no say so. By making a comment like that you easily imply to others that you have a say as to whether or not something negative ( ex: banning) can happen to anyone.

Blaine, thanks for not taking it personally. I'm not coming down on you, I just used you as an example. Some people just think it's ironic that you and UFpike fought all the time and he was banned after you became a moderator, some of us know about the votes that take place. I'm sure you know I'm not pro-ufpike, it's just easy for me to see how it could happen to anyone who crosses an elitest on GC.

Because I didn't feel like logging out. Besides, I'm not a post count whore.

Oh, I won't lie, I did fight with him all the time, but on my part, I pretty much kept it clean. I found him very annoying and very condescending to the female members of GC. The fact is that UF pike was on his way out far before I became a mod...far before. I do know that most people had no problem with that, at least those that I've talked to.

Well I'm sorry you feel that way but a) it's not a threat and b) people around here know me and know that I am not so anal to call for banning on an individual that is speaking their mind. As a matter of fact I'm not even calling for the banning of you.

I guess since you seem to have it all thought out, perhaps you could make some suggestions in a list form that will enlighten us as to what should be done?

For instance if there is a person on here who has BEEN on here for a very long time, and they say something that goes against guidelines should they be banned? I personally think that's a HUGE step. That's why threads get locked instead!

As my grandma always said, "if you don't like it, get the heck out!". Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head and saying, "you must be a member of GC". If you don't like the way things are run, speak with John, and if that doesn't work, well then maybe GC isn't for you.

Man, don't folks have better things to do with their time!

Sorry for the thread hijack, but Blaine....I love you even MORE now. That picture totally made my day hahaha. :D

Re: Re: lol
 

Ladies, ladies...he's already my big poppa!

Re: Re: Re: lol
 

It's all good...I've got someone else in mind anyways :p
But Blaine can be King any day!

BLAHAHAHAHAH, where did you get this pic? I spit water everywhere!