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CutiePie2000 08-27-2003 03:53 PM

NPC Women: has your sorority ever, in history, initiated a man?
 
Hi Ladies,
Now before you go, "Uh, CutiePie2000, are you crazy? Sororities are for WOMEN", please hear me out.

I know that in some special circumstances, a man has been initiated into historically female GLOS. For example, as you know, I am a member of Delta Gamma, and Delta Gamma has had one male initiate, that being George Banta (who also was a Phi Delta Theta).

Sidebar: I know that Dr. Charles Richardson (a Kappa Sigma), though he was a male, helped start the founding of Chi Omega, although I am not sure if he was an initiate of Chi Omega himself.

Sidebar #2: What about that Professor Coddington? Since he had a hand in Alpha Phi, Gamma Phi Beta and Alpha Gamma Delta, did any of these sororities initate him? I am thinking "no".


So, I'm just wondering if the other NPC groups have similar stories to tell? Please chime in....

greeklawgirl 08-27-2003 04:11 PM

Interesting Topic!
 
As far as I know, Alpha Gamma Delta has not had a male initiate. However, Dr. Wellesley Coddington is affectionately called the "father" of Alpha Gamma Delta because he had the initial idea of creating a new sorority at Syracuse, and he presented the idea to Marguerite Shepard. He also provided us guidance with ritual, administration, extension, etc.

Dr. Coddy was a member of the Eklektos Society (also called Phi Nu Theta).

MoxieGrrl 08-27-2003 04:27 PM

I have never heard of this before.....interesting....

GeekyPenguin 08-27-2003 04:30 PM

To the best of my knowledge, Gamma Phi Beta has never done this. I speculate that if we would have, it would have been Charles Cobb, Charles Moss, Dr. Smalley (who coined the word sorority), Dr. Coddington, or Dr. Haven (father of one of our founders who helped with founding).

The1calledTKE 08-27-2003 04:35 PM

J. Miller Leake was initated in Tri Sigma I believe. A member of Kappa Sigma at Randolph-Macon Men's College, he wrote the Sorority's initiation ritual, helped revise the Constitution and assisted in writing the lyrics to Stately and Royal.

The1calledTKE 08-27-2003 04:39 PM

Wasn't Dr. Potter Benton intiated into DZ? I know he was made grand patron.

AOIIalum 08-27-2003 04:58 PM

To my knowledge, no man has ever been initiated into Alpha Omicron Pi.

Tom Earp 08-27-2003 05:36 PM

Cant Remember where but I am with ZNTKE711 on this one!

I remembr reading that there were 3, maybe four different Soroitys who have males Initiated into their Orgs!

Of course, this was very way back in the Soroitys History!

It may have been very well, when My Chapter Helped a Local start a Soroity on campus who could have gone PM but shot themselves in the foot so to speak and said Hell no we are bigger!:( DAH, NO longer there!:confused:

OUlioness01 08-27-2003 05:44 PM

to the best of my knowledge Phi Mu has never initiated a man, although we have extended the invitation to men to become honorary members around the time we were founded (most notably Robert E. Lee, T.J. "Stonewall" Jackson, Jefferson Davis, and Dr. O.L. Smith)

OleMissGlitter 08-27-2003 05:44 PM

As far as I can remember from reading AOII's Celebrate the Century book, no man has ever been intiated into AOII. However, many many years ago they use to have IIOA's, which were husbands and fathers of AOIIs who helped out and attended events such as alumni events and rush events.

AchtungBaby80 08-27-2003 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zntke711
Wasn't Dr. Potter Benton intiated into DZ? I know he was made grand patron.
That's what I was getting ready to say, but I'm not totally sure since I lost my "DZ and You" book. :(

aephi alum 08-27-2003 06:20 PM

As far as I'm aware, no man has ever been initiated into AEPhi.

sugar and spice 08-27-2003 06:56 PM

As far as I know, Tri Delta has never initiated a man.

PhiDeltUCI 08-27-2003 07:29 PM

Looking at my manual. Dr. Guy Potter Benton(a Phi Delt) was initiated into Delta Zeta.

Beryana 08-27-2003 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OleMissGlitter
As far as I can remember from reading AOII's Celebrate the Century book, no man has ever been intiated into AOII. However, many many years ago they use to have IIOA's, which were husbands and fathers of AOIIs who helped out and attended events such as alumni events and rush events.
Actually there are still IIOA's. AOIISilver's husband is one among others. Any close male relative or an AOII can be a IIOA - they used to have a 'ritual' as well but I don't think it is used anymore (I was reading it while working on the archives last year - It was a blast!). Technically my brother is a IIOA - and he wears the shirt I gave him even.

Sarah

sueali 08-27-2003 09:31 PM

Sigma Kappa has never initiated a man nor did a man help with our founding.

breathesgelatin 08-27-2003 11:58 PM

As far as official male Pi Beta Phi initiates--no...

However, one time at chapter during either policy reading (or maybe it was just a random letter from nationals) we got a warning about initiating men into the chapter. Evidently, at one time there was an issue with chapters choosing sweethearts and initiating them... they were called "Arrowmen"... LOL... now we have an ongoing joke; we call our groupies "Arrowmen".

lifesaver 08-28-2003 02:56 AM

Sort of related, well not really.

I can rememebr a consultant coming to visit our chapter and asking him what his most bizarre 'on the road' story was and he told me about visiting a chapter in North Texas. He told us of going downstais in the main room to observe ritual. Just as they were getting ready to start, one of the brothers brings down the housemom and sits her down. The consultant was all WTF?? And their explination was that, "Shes always watched it."

That chapter is now closed for about 4,212 reasons.

Techinally. she wasnt ever a member, just observed the rit. She did not particpate in oaths and such things. It doesnt bother me too much. I of course, would prefer that it never happend but I have to be realistic that with over 225,000 initiates a g/f, sister, mother, wife or whatever had to stumble across some info. It doesnt cheapen my expeience at all. Because as we all know, reading or watching the ceremony is dramatically different from experiencing it.

I dont think there have ever to my knowledge been any official female initiates. I'd be kinda wierd. Think of being at your rit, all decked out, ready to go and their being peeps of the opposite sex there. Its wierd. For me, its such a 'guy' time, I couldnt imagine a girl there.

[/quasi-related hijak]

(PS: as I type this, Piano Man (Our Chapter Song) comes on. Wierd and random.)

pinkyphimu 08-28-2003 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OUlioness01
to the best of my knowledge Phi Mu has never initiated a man, although we have extended the invitation to men to become honorary members around the time we were founded (most notably Robert E. Lee, T.J. "Stonewall" Jackson, Jefferson Davis, and Dr. O.L. Smith)
according to the history book, no man was ever initiated into phi mu. it explained that it was customary in that time period to offer honorary membership to men. they received a pin, but were not initiated thru ritual. there was a period during which there were lots of men being offered this honor, so it was discontinued. i will have to check the date tho.


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