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GoldnBlue2004 08-26-2003 10:19 AM

How do you all feel about stepping?
 
I know most of the black chapters or those that are of HBCSUs that have Alpha Phi Omega step and party hop, stroll, walk, or whatever you want to call it or probate/coming out shows. I wanted to know how does everyone feel about stepping as a service organization. I think that stepping is a great thing because it is service to your organization or maybe to your school by the fact that you are representing your frat. How do you feel. Get at me on this one!

#18 S.O.T. APO 08-26-2003 12:57 PM

Some chapters do it, some don't at the discretion of the members. We don't because we are trying to be different. The only time that you may see zeta phi step is in the pledges "Death March" aka coming out show.

Senusret I 08-26-2003 01:10 PM

It's part of our history, so yeah, we should do it if we want.

However, it should be noted that at most HBCU's, APO has had long periods of inactivity, so you are more likely to have to "justify" why you step since your chapter may not have been around for some years.

Stepping is extra.....if you have time to step, you better be winning awards at all your conventions.

bro_strawter 08-26-2003 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
It's part of our history, so yeah, we should do it if we want.

However, it should be noted that at most HBCU's, APO has had long periods of inactivity, so you are more likely to have to "justify" why you step since your chapter may not have been around for some years.

Stepping is extra.....if you have time to step, you better be winning awards at all your conventions.

I guess...My chapter steps. As a matter of fact, Psi Phi won a step show this summer.

Bro. Jones 09-02-2003 04:16 AM

yeah... our chapter manages to remain active in service... social in fellowship... and steppin' in shows.

I hate when some chapters and organizations tend to focus on stepping more than anything... but as far as heritage is concerned, stepping shouldnt be totally excluded. If there is a way an organization can balance service, ideals/principles, AND stepping then I am all for it. If not, then there needs to be a "reboot" and some emphasis should be put on the basics of the fraternity/sorority.

just my $0.25.

Hyper2 09-03-2003 12:16 AM

As far as stepping goes, I think that it is a good way to promote your organzation or chapter at certain events or functions. In the sense that we are not a social organization it is not common for members of APO to step, but since a lot of the HBCU chapters do then it should be a very exciting thing to see. I'm all for it when the time comes!!!!

Hyper2 09-03-2003 12:25 AM

Who is to say that is does or doesn't?

Dionysus 09-03-2003 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hyper2
Who is to say that is does or doesn't?
Ummmm....me.

Hyper2 09-03-2003 12:31 AM

No...who are you to place rule on each chapter?

Bro. Jones 09-03-2003 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Stepping does not belong in Alpha Phi Omega.
please elaborate for me. :confused:

GoldnBlue2004 09-03-2003 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Stepping does not belong in Alpha Phi Omega.
What do you mean by this comment? Could you elaborate please? It is a part of representing your organization and that goes for any organization.

Senusret I 09-03-2003 08:24 AM

I'd like to share a brief story.

Past National President Gerald Schroeder is a Brother of my chapter, and if anyone is familiar with his administration, diversity was one of his major themes. Well, when he was in office, several Brothers wanted to see stepping outlawed in APO. According to Jerry, people who didn't understand stepping associated it with black chapters, and therefore, hazing.

Now, understand that hazing was an extremely big problem at HBCU chapters in the 1980's, and several chapters were suspended during this time.

Anyway, so people misunderstood stepping (and probate shows) and thought that stepping was something that was forced on pledges.

Jerry, even though he pledged at Georgetown (where there were few black brothers and no stepping) , was determined to allow each chapter to decide what was right for themselves. In the spirit of diversity, Jerry refused to entertain the issue of banning stepping in APO.

The ironic thing is now, years after his administration, Brothers from his home chapter have been known to step and stroll.

Anyway, my point is that many things do not belong in Alpha Phi Omega...hazing...violence....skaters (lol)....but stepping is one of those traditions that should be left up to each chapter.

GoldnBlue2004 09-03-2003 10:48 AM

Thanks for the historical lesson. One of us needs to take notes.

sweete81 09-04-2003 12:00 PM

How about...
 
Are you even a brother Dionysus?!?!?!? Marinate on that question because if you are not, then your opinion does not matter then!!!

NEWS @ 9
9-ZP-03 AI

naraht 09-07-2003 05:05 AM

Stepping & National Fraternity
 
Just thought I'd chime in on stepping.

There is no policy at the National level on stepping. Some board members don't have much of a clue what it is when the join the board, but the Regional Directors from the regions that have chapters that step(III,IV & VII) do, and let them know.

There was a demonstration of Stepping at the 1994 convention in Dallas as one of the official seminars and it was *packed*, 100 to 120 people in a room designed for about 60-70 to sit.

Chapters show fellowship in a lot of ways, I've seen chapters put a lot of effort into ongoing fellowship activities that make even less sense.

However, on a non-historically black campus, a chapter that steps may be viewed as participating heavily in black culture and thus being less open to non-blacks. YMMV. Also, someone who stepped for two different organizations would cause confusion, but the NPHC greeks don't deal with simultaneous membership with APO that well anyway. One cause?, maybe.

If only NHPC greeks stepped, there could be some element of "wanna-bes", but at most HBCUs I've seen, Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma (Band Honoraries) step along with most other non-academic Greek Letter Organizations.

Its a balance; as was said earlier, if that is all the chapter does, then a serious recheck of priotities is needed, but that is true for any fellowship activity.

YiLFS
Randy Finder
National History & Archives Committee.

Secretluv 10-08-2003 09:39 PM

Chapter Variations...
 
Ok, I have an honest question to ask regarding the variations in chapters.

My chapter is in the process of being rechartered... therefore we are a petioning group. I attend a predominately White institution (PWI). There are currently 15 petitioners going through the process of "petitioning group" and out of that 4 are students of color (including myself). Because we just began this journey last spring we are still new to the campus. We have active historically Black frats/sororities but we don't really get much flack from them...

My question to those of you who attend HBCUs...

Because APO chapters at HBCUs have different traditions than those of PWI ... how do you treat or feel about brothers that are students of color but didn't experience the process the same way that you may have?

~Secretluv~

naraht 10-09-2003 09:43 PM

Well as a white dude brother, can't speak directly to that, but it depends on the brother at the HBCU. But I can tell you that there is a black brother on the National Board who initated at University of Virginia...

YiLFS
Randy

#18 S.O.T. APO 10-23-2003 08:45 PM

Being a brother at an HBCU and a person of color, personally, i dont care what process you went through, as long as you pledged into the same fraternity as me, I will always show you fraternity/brotherly love. There are things to learn from all types of processes and other chapters not just HBCU's.

EGDeepher 10-23-2003 11:37 PM

Honestly I've never heard of steppong in APO. My chapter, Theta Alpha does not do it. We're an engineering school and I don't think we could pull off looking good while we step.

But I think to each chapter it's own. If it's your tradition, go for it!

Tuff Stuff 12-05-2003 06:44 PM

I think stepping is a choice that each chapter chooses to make. Just because we are service and not social doesn't mean we can't step. I actually love the idea and I am trying to get my chapter, Nu Theta, to start a party walk and eventually we will step. (I hope) I don't attend an HBCU school so the amount of blacks in my organization is very lacking. Right now we have a total of 2 including myself. I think things like adding a party walk or step or whatever might draw other blacks attention.

Alpha Phi Omega
Nu theta

Attractive#7 12-15-2003 03:28 PM

Stepping
 
Stepping is a decision that each chapter has to make for themselves. We step in stepshow's, our come out show, etc.


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