GreekChat bug?
 

Is it just me or does the Subscribe to Threads feature only half work for everyone else too?

(The threads subscription feature is the one which emails you when there is a new post within a thread you've posted in or subscribed to)

In the user control panel, I click on "View All Subscribed Threads" but it sure as heck doesn't list them all for me.
And, when I (although I am supposedly subscribed to threads that have been posted to very recently) click on to change the menu to show threads from 'the beginning' or 30 days etc, I still get the notice "There have been no new posts in the last (e.g) 1000 days to your subscribed threads."

I see that the message at the bottom of every GreekChat.com page reads "Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.2.9" and the latest software version is 2.3.2, but I don't know if it's that or just that the forum is not set up properly?

John any comments? If you exist? Does anyone else have problems?

Well, RSVP anyone, thanks. :)

Re: GreekChat bug?
 

If the board isn't up to date yet, than it's not up to date. John does a great job with this site and I don't think you have any reason to question that. We are all lucky to even have this site because of John. I'm sure it will be updated when he has time, I mean he does have a life like the rest of us. I'm sure he doesn't live for the GC.

:confused: Er yeah calm down. Well the feature still doesn't work for me, maybe I'm not using it right. Hence my asking other people if they experienced the same difficulties. I don't know if it works for you since you didn't actually comment on what I was asking about. If it is a problem with the site I don't actually think bringing up the matter makes me Satan's hellchild. If it's brought up it can be looked at and dealt with, should he wish, in his own good time. If it's not brought up then he won't know about it, nor could be expected to. Perhaps you hope any problems will come to him in a dream. :rolleyes: The better the whole thing runs, the greater the amount of people benefit.

Re: GreekChat bug?
 

I have the same thing happen, too....makes it difficult to check if you delete the emails and have to wait until later to check the boards.

I don't use that feature - just the emails, and I get them like clockwork!

I doubt that all the bugs are out of of 2.3.2, and we know this version of vBulletin is working great, so I say we stick with it! :D

I don't use that feature - just the emails, and I get them like clockwork!

Umm yep, emails. That'd be the feature. Well, the half I can get to work ;). I'd still like to know what threads I'm subscribed to. I'm sure we've all got a 'new post to thread' email relating to an old, old thread. It'd be useful to know what threads we're subscribed to. Plus it'd be a great way of keeping track of threads interesting to you if you could list all your subscribed threads (which is how the feature should work).

I doubt that all the bugs are out of of 2.3.2, and we know this version of vBulletin is working great, so I say we stick with it!

The point was that it may not be working great. Not having a support contract with Jelsoft who make vBbulletin I have no way of confirming if it works only half properly (that feature) due to a bug in the earlier version of their software OR if it is a bug but it's still present in their latest version OR it's not a bug but just that a couple of settings on this forum haven't been configured properly. Which, given that there are a lot of options in that software that can be set is one of the most possible causes!
:confused: Confusing that there seems to be a prevailing opinion "If it ain't broke then don't fix it"; it er does seem to be not working properly. I doubt the software is set up so precariously that trying to fix one problem would mean the entire forum went down like a house of cards! I think looking into it would be useful myself :).

MYSTERY SOLVED
 

CONFIRMED:
It is a bug with that version of vBulletin. I looked on the web. :)
It is a bug and there is a fix that can be applied - so that the feature works. Or, in the latest vBulletin software version, the fix is already built in.

This following resource forum is used/run by the developers of vBulletin (the software that GreekChat runs on): http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showt...threadid=46356
They (developers) confirmed feature doesn't work properly due to a BUG. The bug is entirely fixed in the next version of vBulletin (to the one used here) so that it just works properly without a board administrator having to do anything else. **OR**, if someone (who runs a forum) prefers to use the old vBulletin version (with that bug) then that thread I just put there links to the details telling them how to fix it so it does work as it should within their current (superseded) version. The info on how to fix it was posted by the official development team of the forum software. So either way - whether someone doesn't want to change their software version or not - it is "easy" for them to have the subscribe threads feature working properly.

I'll leave this thread here and bump it occasionally in the hope 'John' sees it.

- Richard. :D

If you have an issue that you want to address with John, email or PM him. He rarely reads through all the threads. Like Brandon said, John is a busy guy and doesn't spend his life here on GC. Also,what you're requesting may be a much bigger deal that it appears to "fix", and to do that would likely require GC to be down for some period of time. Being that it's rush season, you may have MANY Gcers after your head if the site has to be shut down for any period of time :) They are addicts!

No one's flaming you.

Most of us on this board have the utmost reverance for John because he provides this wonderful site for FREE with no pop ups, and only the occasionally very small ad from Greek 101.
Also, you getting in what i read as small "jabs" in on John (i.e. questioning his existence, complaining that he doesn't ever get back to you, saying that it's "not worth" it to contact himetc.) is not any way to get him to do something for you. As I mentioned the other night, if you want something to get done for you, you need to be as nice as possible, etc. That's just human nature. Heck, if you halfway insulted me, I wouldn't exactly be in high-gear trying to do a favor for you. You should also expect to get flamed if you insult the owner and operator of this board.

He's the only guy who can fix it, so not contacting him personally about and just having a thread here is very ineffective. :)

You're right, of course, in calling the bug to his attention, and i'm sure that he would be very appreciate especially if you provided him with the fix that it seems you found.

All in all, doesn't seem like the biggest problem in the world. It hasn't affected me or any other GCers enough to mention before. A lot of us don't even use that feature.

Some of my frustration probably coming out now...
 

This is the last post I'll make on this thread. Probably. The point of the thread was only to ask about whether others had the same problem I did. So PolarPi thank you. Goal accomplished. As for "jabs", well I still didn't get any replies in the past so I don't see a point in endlessly trying the same thing expecting a different result. Didn't work for me. Trying something else. Seems reasonable to me. Perhaps only to me. But fine. I still think acknowledgment (even if I don't like the acknowledgment which would be my problem) is important/polite. And there is a difference between statements of fact (and the attached conclusion drawn from them) "I did not get a reply before after email therefore I believe did not work for me" and insults. And others have posted similar experiences. Based on my past experience contacting him personally it still stands for all I know he didn't get or read the messages. No way I can know. Anyone not using the feature needn't lose sleep. For some even a few it might help them if it was fixed. And if it turns out it was as easy as pie to do so then it's good to have been brought up.

Suggested reading:
 

2 books:

"Don't Sweat the Small Stuff" Amazon link Don't flip out over every single little thing

Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People" Amazon l Basically a book on how to talk to people to get them to do what you need/want them to. Invaluable to any student leader.

Re: FLAME
 

Danielle,

That was incredibly RUDE and offensive. I'd appreciate it if you directed your (publicly posted) oh so "smart" remarks elsewhere - I do not care for them. I have no intention of reading such books half a century old nor any desire to hear your opinion of my social skills or ability to "win friends". If as you say the problem "hasn't affected you" I wonder why you even bothered posting in the thread. I'm getting sick and tired of this. If my posts bother you that much use the Ignore feature.

Re: Re: FLAME
 

Actually if you even looked into the books, you'd find that they're quite popular and helpful. There was nothing I said to intend it as an insult- those are the titles of the books. Just because a book is half a century old doesn't mean that it's useless- the Dale Carnegie book is still used in many college courses today. Also, the title is misleading, because it's actually much more targeted towards a business environment.

And I posted in the thread to try to help you direct your concern to the correct person, but as usual, when you don't get the answer you want to hear you flip out. If you have too much of a grudge against John to bother to send him a PM or email, then obviously you don't want the problem fixed that badly.

Like everyone else here, I'm happy that John provides this site for us free of pop-ups. IMO, so what if the program has a tiny bug in it, I don't check my emails to see which of my posts have been replied to anyway.

Now Chillin,

take a deep breath count to one (1) sit on an ice cube if you can find one in this heat!

Dec, to be truthfull, I had no idea what the hell you were talking about!:( Way over my head!:D

Re: Re: FLAME
 

You have been taking little stabs at John and the way he runs this site. Just because a certain feature isn't working for you doesn't mean it's a life or death ordeal. Deal with it. Understand there are some 30,000 members on this site and I don't recall paying a membership fee, did you? That's right, it's free and free of pop-up ads. I think we should be thankful of that much. Remember you are just one member among the 30,000. Take the time you are using to research this "bug" and put it to the org you are trying to start. I assume it must take some work to get an professional org to be "socially selective."

Take the time you are using to research this "bug" and put it to the org you are trying to start.
Thanks for the tip. An org takes slightly more than five/ten minutes to start though.
I assume it must take some work to get an professional org to be "socially selective."
I wouldn't know nor need to. I'm not trying to to do that nor ever shall.

Awww come on now lil buddy, your "last post" was like four posts ago already.

And I didn't mean it takes that time to start the org, read my post again, I said put that time into the org, not start the org.

My take on this is that at least some of the people saying the 'so called bug has never bothered me' also say 'I don't use the feature anyway'. So if it the feature has a bug then obviously it wouldn't affect them that much. Some users do use the feature. Doesn't hurt to bring it up. If it's not practical to fix it that's fine. But doesn't hurt to bring it up so it can be a least glanced at.

It's not affecting my daily life of course but if it's no biggie to fix it once notified then notfiication in the seemingly mot suitable manner does no harm. And if fixing it would be a big huge thing then obviously fixing it isn't practical but the act of notifying it had no harm.

dec, followed your link and wonder what the hell kind of language these folks are using! I would say ggrreekk to me!!!!!!!!:(

But that would be a clichet(?)!:rolleyes:

Had some nice logos on sig tho!:D

I liked the logos too! :D

I didn't realize there was a problem/bug with the subscribed threads feature - thanks for pointing that out.

Usually I do not upgrade the software on GC every time minor upgrades/updates are available, depends on the specific changes/fixes included. vB version 3 should be available soon (currently in beta stage) - I've been planning for the next GC update to be when version 3 is released.

If vB takes much longer for version 3 to be released, I'll upgrade to 2.3.2 when I have a chance to do that.

John, thank you for your kind reply.
Having a passing interest I glanced at the company's vb....com announcements section, and - with wry amusement :) - read a note from the dev. team; explaining their interim 'new' vB version 2.3.2 needed 'x' line changing to fix something, although new ready-amended files were downloadable for those who'd not already installed that (earlier) 2.3.2 build. Having worked in the software development & publishing arena myself in the relatively distant past, I'm amused to see not much has changed in terms of "bug free" final master versions not ever being quite so all out bug free! :D

I fully appreciate and see the logic and sense in that course of action in the last line of your post, and I look forward to continuing to use the GreekChat.com forums.

Kind wishes,

Richard.

Must have been why GC was down a lot of the day!:(

Hell, going nuts till I got home and fired up the PS PC!:eek:

TA DA, back on again!:cool: :D :)

John, thank you for putting up with us!:cool:

Dec, I knew you werent Insane!:D

Just so you know . . . vBulletin software is the best of a group of bad solutions for this type of software. In fact, most pay sites that use it use a hacked code to enable features they desire, and disable ones that drag on server performance. We are using a standard version, it seems, and as such you should expect some minor bugs, as that is what the vB software has shown in the past.

So . . . unless you have the time to decompile-'n-dig and fix what you don't like, you're stuck with it. Problems are endemic in the code. Take a little time and read up on some problems with vB, or I can point you to one site in particular that has done extensive work on the code to make it streamlined - it's a pay site though, and that kind of work is unrealistic for John and this site.

He does a great job just keeping it working regularly, it has nothing to do with him - it's just that the software is the best of the bunch, which doesn't say much.

Yo KS Dude!

Thanks for pointing this out!:)

Ya are much sharper on this than me! Think Dec was taking a lot more heat than he desearved!

Of Couse Richard can be a _____ But Still Love Him!

One of the Good Guys!:rolleyes: :D :cool: